Melbourne Beats

Victorian Rural Fire Brigades Association - http://home.vicnet.net.au/~vrfba/

C.F.A - http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/

Wildlife Victoria - www.wildlifevictoria.org.au

Red Cross - http://www.redcross.org.au/vic/news_rel ... hfires.htm


our initial thought for a charity was Widows of Firefighters, but unless we set up our own charity it could be difficult to make happen

Are there any others I haven't thought of?

Can we have an all of the above spot on the poll? Or do we just want to narrow it down to one?

Cos i would love to split the money. Its too hard to choose between these charities, they are all good.

I think it's best to give it all to one place

what about everyone else?

personally, i'm for splitting between maybe two.

share the love innit.

I'd vote for the monies raised to go to one place - it'll have a bigger impact and there'll be more space for sponsor's logos.

one place.

I would love to work for the wildlife, however again that means a little more organisation because we need to make sure our money is going towards a specific part of their company, yadda yadda yadda.

CFA for me.

i'd go for a wildlife protection organisation

these fires have meant a lot of animals have lost their homes, those who haven't have nothing to eat.

this will impact on the species for years/decades to come ... and the people that can assist ened help.

I'm all for helping the CFA but it is funded whilst soem other wilderness operations aren't to such degrees.

you big softie ben!

i like the animals too, more than people most times

it looks like the C.F.A is winning hands down

So we can start with the press release etc, should we decide on C.F.A as the charity?

I thought there'd be more than 14 votes though

THe fact that they are funded does sit a bit weird with me, i have been trying to find alternatives but will little success at this point.

Ditto, though i voted for them


Anyways, would prob prefer the rural fireman to at least get more of this if anything.

One place.

Red Cross is fairly safe.

They're all interesting options.

Probably should place a thread in the main forum asking people to come across and vote in it.

shepherd wrote: I'm all for helping the CFA but it is funded whilst soem other wilderness operations aren't to such degrees.

Word, the CFA certanily doesn't have a lack of money at the moment. In fact their funding has increased dramatically over the last few years.... yet for some reason I still voted for them. Had a mate who worked for them last year and they cop a beating around this time of year.

The thing with the CFA is while they do get some govt funding there are 20 CFA regions across the whole state. There are 1200 individual CFA brigades within 142 groups. 98% of CFA team members are volunteers. (Source - Annual Report 2005 http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/about/documen ... p_2005.pdf). With that kind of structure it wouldn't take long for the money to get spread thin.

The CFA are also vital for their role in bringing rural communities together.

IF we are to donate to the CFA, I think we should specify that it goes to one brigade for some type of equipment purchase. We could even have them come along to the gig to brief us on their activities etc.

ha awesome!

1am :: Lynt
2:00am :: Bob talks about the need for a new hose.
2.15am :: Deviant

3.15 :: Dave shows off his new helmet.

system wrote:3.15 :: Dave shows off his new helmet.

6:55 :: Ron's axe

jbs wrote:

system wrote:3.15 :: Dave shows off his new helmet.

6:55 :: Ron's axe

9.37 :: Bright's finest debating new hose techniques.

marcus wrote:IF we are to donate to the CFA, I think we should specify that it goes to one brigade for some type of equipment purchase. We could even have them come along to the gig to brief us on their activities etc.

One brigade? How would you choose them?

Of the fires that are currently burning, here is the spread of regions and brigades that are active....

CFA Region/ Incident Name/ Type of Fire/ CFA Brigade
REGION 23/ MT TERRIBLE/ FOREST/ JAMIESON
REGION 23/ NORTH EAST ALPS/ FOREST/ WHITFIELD & DISTRICT
REGION 10/ MT LIGAR/ FOREST/ SEATON
REGION 10/ DARLING CYNTHIA/ FOREST/ DARGO
REGION 09/ WALHALLA-TYERS RD/ FOREST/ ERICA & DISTRICT
REGION 23/ GOVERNORS/ FOREST/ MANSFIELD
REGION 24/ OVENS ICC/ FOREST/ POREPUNKAH
REGION 09/ ERICA COMPLEX/ FOREST/ ERICA & DISTRICT
REGION 24/ BUFFALO RIVER RD/ GRASS/ BUFFALO RIVER
REGION 08/ GRASS/ HAMPTON PARK
REGION 08/ AGNES ST/ GRASS/ NOBLE PARK
REGION 23/ MANSFIELD/ GRASS/ JAMIESON
REGION 23/ HIGHETT ST/ GRASS/ MANSFIELD

I think it should be for the animals. Unfortunatly animals are the victims that are looked over in situations like this. Whilst heaps of people will be donatng to CFA etc not many people will be thinking about the poor little animals that can't tell us if they have lots their home, family feeding grounds or if they are in pain. All to often animals suffer burns in their respitory systems that aren't visable. Please can we help the animals.

I'm starting to lean more towards helping the animals

I think a 50/50 split between the C.F.A & Wildlife Victoria is a goa

kronz wrote:I think it should be for the animals. Unfortunatly animals are the victims that are looked over in situations like this. Whilst heaps of people will be donatng to CFA etc not many people will be thinking about the poor little animals that can't tell us if they have lots their home, family feeding grounds or if they are in pain. All to often animals suffer burns in their respitory systems that aren't visable. Please can we help the animals.

My folks have a place in south Gippsland. On their way down there the other week, they said they saw a shitload of animals that had fled from the fires.

poor lil animals....

Wildlife Victoria for me.

Polecat wrote:
One brigade? How would you choose them?

I just believe that the money would have greater effect if it focused on one group. Obviously this all depends on the amount of money that we raise.

@ JBS

I voted for the Wildlife fund, but am torn between who we should give the money to. Not wanting to detract from the tradegy of the situation, I don't think we should be posting pictures of (cute) severely injured animals which may result in an emotional decision of where the money should go to, rather than a more rational decision which may suggest otherwise. There have always been bushfires, and ecosystems have managed to survive. How many animals will be assisted if we donate to a wildlife organisation? Obviously there are a lot more factors which need to be addressed.

Maybe we should consider whether we split the money two ways?

We've confirmed for the Heavyweight gig we're donating to the CFA. Apparently they need the cash the most and it goes direct into funding. Stuff like Red Cross, I've heard a lot goes to overhead, admin, salaries, etc..

Just saw the news and one of our family friends "Dick" who lives on Sheepyeard
flats has had his property destroyed. He was the stockman on the film
the man from snowy river. We spend heaps of time at his place. Real shame.

Have not even heard if all is ok(ish) gotta call my folks tomorrow. This cause
I would say has just been given fresh meaning to me.

plus the red cross gets a few bucks already. i don't see why it shouldn't go to the firies; as much as the animals need it too, they'd all be burnt to a crisp if it weren't for the cfa.

CFA all the way I reckon. Those volunteers are dead brave and do a great job.

CFA is a clear stand out on voting.

Should we just call it a decision and lock that in!!?!!

yeah, there's a few things that we need to get started on and are waiting on a decision about the charity

lock it in Eddie?

Lock it in.

Go for the animals

I have spoken to Sea's contact from CFA and they are waiting on our proposal.

Did they sound keen on the idea?

Great Magneto will be at Miss L's tonight and we'll be discussing the press release & proposal then

im for the animals.

might be too late, but i think 50/50 CFA and wildlife fund sounds like the go.

so many people will be donating to CFA...

and red cross > NOOOO!!!!!!!!!

thats my two cents anyways.

yeah i agree, the split between the two sounds good.

After a while we could reduce the poll down to 2 candidates and the option between the each of those 2 or a split between the 2 of them

Firies, or SES, or anyone to do with fighting fires for more equipment, staff, volly training, community education etc wins handsish down for me! but the poor little animals need a bit of H.E.L.P too, they will be all singed and sore and hungry & homeless... revegetation is important... I mean soon there wont be too much bush left to burn as bad as that may sound. Red Cross use heaps in overheads, advertising etc.... still not all the Boxing Day Tsunami money has been used, or used effectively from my understanding.

Where are we at with this?



It seems from the last 10 or so posts that there has been a move towards the animals or a 50/50 split a least.









Please can we help the animals!!!!!!!!!!!11

ulyssian wrote:revegetation is important... I mean soon there wont be too much bush left to burn as bad as that may sound.

the bush needs fire, it's part of nature. Most of the tress in this land, appart from the really deep wet schleophyl ones, need to be burnt to regenerate. Fire is really not bad in the eyes of nature, there is a whole ecology built around it.

flippo wrote:

ulyssian wrote:revegetation is important... I mean soon there wont be too much bush left to burn as bad as that may sound.

the bush needs fire, it's part of nature. Most of the tress in this land, appart from the really deep wet schleophyl ones, need to be burnt to regenerate. Fire is really not bad in the eyes of nature, there is a whole ecology built around it.

The way that eucalypts (and other indigenous tree species) have been trained to need to be burnt back to encourage regrowth is part of the bush fire problems we face with our over populated society. Koori societies had it down pat.

I know it needs fire, but we can give it a helping hand too.

There is actually a Wildlife Victoria Bushfire Appeal

But big the fuck ups to the CFA as well

I just prefer animals to most people

gnat wrote:There is actually a Wildlife Victoria Bushfire Appeal

Have you got any details about this Appeal?

Have been in contact with CFA again and we can actually donate to a specific area if we want, eg. to the Bairnsdale CFA fund. which i like the idea off.

breaksRbest wrote:

gnat wrote:There is actually a Wildlife Victoria Bushfire Appeal

Have you got any details about this Appeal?

http://www.wildlifevictoria.org.au/


Saw it on the door of a cafe the other day

Can the Fireys provide a Full Monty style gig for the laydeez?

we are not still debating who the money goes to are we. Thought it was decided.

in regards to use of logo for CFA:

Hi Dave,



That sounds great about your event. I hope it’s a success for you.



CFA is very mindful of the value of our brand and does have strict guidelines in regard to the use of our logo. Approval would be required from our Executive Manager in regard to use of the logo on your promotional material.



If you could forward a copy of the proposed promo material I will then follow up for you.





Regards



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