I cant find a thread, and I love aussiehiphop, well some of it.
It definately has a style of its own, and I like that the rhymes are about aussie stuff and not bitches and blunts.
I mean lets face it, who the fuck really smokes blunts here, though there is a LOT of bitches at certain locations.
some acts i like
Tzu - kind of re defined hiphop and made it more accessible with great beats and good rhymes. joel and pip used to read rhyming dictionaries to each other in school! and it has paid off, thoough i heard the other day that they are no more. going to do other things etc. prolly good as they did get a bit too commercial in the end imho.
curse ov dialect - i used to hang out with these guys ten years ago, damn they used to fuck shit up, throw cat meat at vegan benefit gigs, i did a show with them at the old scubar and they pretty much covered the entire venue in those tiny styrofoam balls and cucumber juice. and i must admit, back then they were fucknig revolutionary. however, i do think that they found their formula and stuck to it and whilst they were the first aussie act signed to a US label (i heard) lately they seem to be just doing the same ol same ol thang that worked ages ago.
hilltops - I love em. Part of it is cos they are from Adelaide, part of it is that they did an album with the symphony orchestra, busting genres, love it, and part of it is they are just great rhymes, and well, they are a bit hot too.
maya jupiter - love what this lady does for hiphop here. The album of 'The hiphop show' has some really dope indigenous acts on it too.
urthboy - i like his beats and rhymes but sometimes he annoys me and i dont know why. still worthy tho.
downsyde - LOVE these guys. more dark than the herd, who are good but still a bit 'pedestrian' for my liking.
horror show - funny, i love these guys, like bogans with mics, quite endearing really thought im sure they dont want to hear that
combat wombat/illzilla - conscious hiphop with messages about whats actually going on in this country. good.
more please? discuss? give me more albums to buy!
that said - I am tired of hiphop crowds. every gig i go to, is full of wankers and slurries. De La @ The Espy was the clincher for me,
I love hiphop but I really really fucknig hate the people that go to the gigs usually. How to fix this? Napalm? IQ testing upon entry?
I absolutely love hiphop, but I have NEVER heard an Aussie MC I liked. It just doesn't work for me.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:13 pm
by Direkt
SMB Hardy.
GK, my faves: Astronomy Class, Koolism, Pez (not Pegz), Bliss N Eso, Pegz, Muph & Plutonic (& Plutonic Lab), True Live, Phrase, Jase, The Herd, Downsyde... hmmm... others, can't think - need to be near my records and CD's.
Bliss N Eso and Pegz beats bore you? Wow... each to their own, but I thought the production on Bliss N Eso's first LP was amazing! And Pegz (being Obese's main man) uses the creme de la creme of Aussie producers like Plutonic and Jase - he has some killer beats IMO.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:16 pm
by Hardy
Direkt wrote:SMB Hardy.
What is SMB? Suck my balls?
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:20 pm
by JAMESSSS
Small to Medium Business
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:22 pm
by Hardy
Shiny Metal Box
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:23 pm
by Direkt
Seeping Male Bottom
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:25 pm
by Direkt
But yeah, Suck My Balls...
Tongue in cheek, or balls... as it is.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:31 pm
by Hardy
Super Mario Brothers
mmm... toungue in balls
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:42 pm
by Direkt
Super Mario Balls
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:43 pm
by ghetto kitty
Simply Making Bacon?
Direkt wrote:SMB Hardy.
GK, my faves: Astronomy Class, Koolism, Pez (not Pegz), Bliss N Eso, Pegz, Muph & Plutonic (& Plutonic Lab), True Live, Phrase, Jase, The Herd, Downsyde... hmmm... others, can't think - need to be near my records and CD's.
Bliss N Eso and Pegz beats bore you? Wow... each to their own, but I thought the production on Bliss N Eso's first LP was amazing! And Pegz (being Obese's main man) uses the creme de la creme of Aussie producers like Plutonic and Jase - he has some killer beats IMO.
oh i forgot about true live. love those guys.
yes to some koolism too.
not sure if ive heard bliss n eso's 1st LP, but while the production on their latest offerring (cant remember the name but its a blue cover) has amazing beats, thier rhymes, well, they bore me!
'eltham is my manhattan' = trying way way to hard
dont think i know astronomy class, what album/s?
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:51 pm
by Blaxter
True Live rock.
I use to hang with TZU and Illzilla cats and thry priced themselves out of my market by getting good support slots with internattys'.
Bliss N Eso's latest offering isn't a blue cover... It's called 'Flying Colours'... looks like this:
Not trying to argue a point, just thinking maybe you've mixed them up - as they're from Sydney, so the Eltham line doesn't ring true, although perhaps they did say it - I can't recall.
I think they're pretty talented MC's actually. Sometimes the content isn't bang on, but they're well crafted and well delivered.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:55 pm
by Direkt
Oh, and Pez is one of the best lyricists doing the rounds out here at present IMO.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:58 pm
by obliveus
Both Astronomy Class albums rip, Bo. Elefant Traks = the biz!!!
I know it's dancehall/reggae, but Mista Savona rips, too.
Still think Resin Dogs rock some dope hiphop, too. Last time I played with Katch, he was droppin heaps of Aussie hiphop. Man supports this country.
The Mouse Outfit are pretty dope. Check em on My Space and if you haven't downloaded the free EP from Psyde Projects yet, tsk tsk. It's so good. Go to their My Space page...320 MP3 EP of some dope beats n rhymes. Local, too. Uri, my hat's off to ya.
How come everyone's left off Mass MC??? He was/is the true Aussie revolutionary. I still got the CD Mix that Spiesdogg gave me in 2001 with that BBQ song on it. Pisser.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:59 pm
by obliveus
I got a couple of Drapht tracks, too. I like...dude's got skill and sounds like he's from Franny or somethin.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:09 pm
by ghetto kitty
direkt, sorry you are right, im thinking of muph and plutonic. thats the blue one, and the eltham line!
have not got a copy of flying colours, i should go buy huh?
astronomy class - will get! I do like most things on elefant traks label...
have not heard of mouse oufit, will hunt em out on myspazz
nor Mass Mc, nor Drapht...can has one song to listen to linky linky Obwankenobi?
and to Hardy - I swear I know the sentiment, but you just need the right combo of beats and actual lyrical mastery, not just 'some aussie MC' cos honestly, 90% of them are shite imo. Do you not like any of these dudes mentioned?
I like converting people to aussiehiphop
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:19 pm
by andy_hoffman
99% of aussiehiphop is arse IMO (well all i've heard on jjj and bits and pieces on RRR). Just lame lyrics about bullshit with exaggerated accents. Hilltop hoods suck super mario ozwog balls!
TZU and True Live are quality live acts and really nice lads i must say. Really haven't heard that much more aussiehiphop that i've liked although I heard a couple of tracks by some guy called Seth Sentry on jjj the other day. Not bad. Some nice beats and simple honest lyrics. (Think he's touring with Pez at the moment)
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:21 pm
by ghetto kitty
andy_hoffman wrote: (well all i've heard on jjj and bits and pieces on RRR). )
thats possibly the problem, andy!
loads of great hiphop does not get any commercial airplay here. (well RRR not commercial but still)
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:26 pm
by Direkt
I know where Hardy is coming from... but you've gotta get past it.
Sure, some dudes sound like they're taking piss putting the Oz accent on too thick, but there's some great Aussie MC's out there and the scene is only getting stronger.
Re: Draft. I love his track 'Jimmy Recard' - awesome.
Bliss N Eso - yeah give it a go. Their first LP, "Flowers In The Pavement" is pretty good. Bliss did most of the production and it was mixed in the studio next to Jay-Z in NYC. Beats are pretty nice.
Pez, do it.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:27 pm
by andy_hoffman
I just ain't heard much good stuff and i've seen and heard alot of acts since aussiehiphop came out of the closet and became "cool". They all just put on this whole act and fake their accents and... well they have got nothin on the UK and US hiphop that's all i can say.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:31 pm
by Direkt
andy_hoffman wrote:99% of aussiehiphop is arse IMO (well all i've heard on jjj and bits and pieces on RRR). Just lame lyrics about bullshit with exaggerated accents.
Probably coz you've listened to 99% crap my man. JJJ ain't what she used to be.
TBH - the quality of Oz hip-hop is growing in tandem with the support of it.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:35 pm
by ghetto kitty
but aussiehiphop aint really even 'cool' yet man.
Obese told me they wanted to get on commerical stations like kiss fm etc bad but werent sure how to do it.
And I dont know either. I dont know if the plebs are ready to accept the accents cos they have grown up on a steady diet of yankee hiphop.
I think most UK hiphop Ive heard is shite, and there is a big differecne between west/east hiphop in the US, and Rap is different to hiphop too.
Pretty generalistic statements! If you hate it, move on cos this thread is for lovers thanks!
direkt- so which album do i get, first one or second one?! and yeah i have some pez floating around on an external somewhere, will listen again...
edit - word direkt. fan the flames, feed the fire.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:35 pm
by Hardy
andy_hoffman wrote:99% of aussiehiphop is arse IMO (well all i've heard on jjj and bits and pieces on RRR). Just lame lyrics about bullshit with exaggerated accents. Hilltop hoods suck super mario ozwog balls!
This is probably the same problem with me. I guess I haven't dug very far, but the way it's represented on radio is not good. I have really tried to dig it, but I just can't get into it. It just sounds wrong. And yes, Hilltop Hoods are horrid.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:37 pm
by andy_hoffman
Direkt wrote:
andy_hoffman wrote:99% of aussiehiphop is arse IMO (well all i've heard on jjj and bits and pieces on RRR). Just lame lyrics about bullshit with exaggerated accents.
Probably coz you've listened to 99% crap my man. JJJ ain't what she used to be.
TBH - the quality of Oz hip-hop is growing in tandem with the support of it.
Quite likely.. a little less thick/fake aussie accent and some lyrics with a little bit more depth is what i want to hear.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:40 pm
by ghetto kitty
so you guys should listen to some of the acts we have listed here that arent the hilltops, and get back to us with your opinion please!
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:44 pm
by andy_hoffman
I hear great things about combat wombat from some mates so i might look them up. Also i used to like maya jupiter but haven't heard anything of hers in a long time so might have to check her out too. Not a fan of Bliss n Esso tho. Rate them bout where i rate the hilltops!
Anyway. I might leave this lovers thread
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:36 pm
by Dingo
Koolism live show will convert anyone.
and yes TZU are/were the shit!
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:20 pm
by Baddums
I've dropped info on this forum about a duo called Polo Club that I manage but no-one seems to care too much. I personally think they are bringing something new to the local landscape. It may not be revolutionary in terms of the global scene but they are definitely pushing their own style...
we got the album mastered in LA by Dave Cooley who has mastered albums by Madlib, Dilla and many more.
@Hardy if you don't like aussie mc's i strongly advise you check out Plutonic Labs - Codes Over Colours...really really good instrumentals. Also artists Brothers Stoney and of course the fantastic Hermitude are highly recommended.
TBH haven't heard much this year but Two Toes sound good, Joe New is one of the best MC's in this country.
Also don't mind locals Low Budget.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:00 pm
by Expert Knob Twiddler
was listening to old little nobody and nod/isnod recordings from about 1997/98 on a mates system the other night, mostly crap tape recordings but early melbourne hip-hop beats for sure. any one else got decent recordings of this ?
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:37 am
by phat_coconut
check this out - wicked Aussie Female HipHop space:
Expert Knob Twiddler wrote:was listening to old little nobody and nod/isnod recordings from about 1997/98 on a mates system the other night, mostly crap tape recordings but early melbourne hip-hop beats for sure. any one else got decent recordings of this ?
Get outta here, Expert! What crap tapes're you listening to??
Low budget are great and about to blow up i think.
I would rather listen to an australian MC ryme with his own accent rather than trying to put on a US accent and ryme. Before the hilltops blew up they used try and mimmick US accents, then one day some guy in adelaide asked them why they were tring to put on US accents and they didnt know, its well documented.
Anyone heard Bias's new Album Aerosol Era? i like it.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:11 am
by Direkt
ghetto kitty wrote:so you guys should listen to some of the acts we have listed here that arent the hilltops, and get back to us with your opinion please!
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:15 am
by Direkt
ghetto kitty wrote:direkt- so which album do i get, first one or second one?! and yeah i have some pez floating around on an external somewhere, will listen again...
Well, they've got better as they've got older... but perhaps start at the beginning - coz some of the sounds on the first album are certainly pretty different. Accordions and the like...
Astronomy Class' second album didn't touch their first imo.
Ozi Batla is no.1 for content.
That is something I love about listening to AussieHipHop on the headphones. The content, on a good record, is about here and now stuff I can relate to.
After all HipHop did come from a RnB tradition of singing about the troubles and celebrations of the day right? (other than the getting the party started right bit).
Could go on and on about the evolution is has been through, the accent debate, the splinter groups that have now emerged, the distinct sound Aussie stuff has with a live band feel, the importance of Hilltops for the rest of the scene, the face that teens now consider themselves ‘hiphop’ but not necessarily following any US crews but local crews instead and how that just would never of happened for the masses before the last 3 or 4 years. The scene has come a bloody long way since the raps about driving ‘my Holden over the Westgate’.
Blaa blaa blaa.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:13 am
by Direkt
Definitely on all accounts DBoy.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:00 pm
by Andrez
DBoy wrote:The scene has come a bloody long way since the raps about driving ‘my Holden over the Westgate’.
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:43 pm
by ghetto kitty
damn, some great videos...
i have never seen clips to some of those songs!
urthboy and horrowshow are playing at the prince end of october...
could be less wankers there perhaps, i may go...
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:21 pm
by FRAKSHA...
i make hiphop, but to be honest hate most of it...not enuff rawness anymore, going to most hiphop shows is like a casting call for home and away most of the time, mans need to start getting pulled of the stage moretime, too many moon, star and unicorn rappers
stuff like true live makes me cringe hard, kinda embarassing, its hiphop for non-hiphop fans and festival monkeys, no offence it its ur thing
but yeah, as Steve said, M-Phazes is no.1 for beats, and when u got people like preemo, 9th wonder, just blaze, pete rock and bare others co-signing you it wont be long before he's one of the top boy producers worldwide...
personally from oz, i like stuff like Gargoyle, Rhys etc that kind of stuff...can totally see why people would hate it tho, its very dark and grimey and hard to relate to if u aint grown up on a similar lifestyle
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:23 pm
by FRAKSHA...
oh and Pegz new release (Gully Patrol) is sounding horrendous (in a good way ) by all accounts! He was saying he's really stepped up his levels on it beat and lyric wise...looking fwd to the new video, they hired a fucking tank for it haha
Re: AussieHipHop
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:27 pm
by Baddums
more people pushing a slightly different, alternative hip-hop sound...