Swanston Street Redevelopment

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:54 am

http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cf ... 23&pg=4460

discuss

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:07 am

sharks with lazers imo

Post by **huge** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:24 am

interesting. bike highway in between the trams!

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:29 am

ducks with lazers aswell.

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:03 pm

1. put some trees in that arent Plane trees, plus low level planting x bazillion.
2. remove slow walkers
3. less street infrastructure. like not heaps of gutters and steps and different levels and ins and outs parking type things. should do one flat level for whole street including footpaths and have LARGE colour markings on.
4. cars gtfo, buses gtfo, shit taxi drivers gtfo.
5. less crap shops
6. less hot wind and flying dust in summer
7. better food.
8. less people.
9 fix up that god fucking awful aborted 'public' space outside the Westin. (no sand please) make a huge green ramped bank with a gigantic floating oblong or something to obscure the filth building behind. moar trees.
10. stop with the water shortage policy of no greening the parks / fountains in summer thing, its a rubbish minor gesture and means that people with no garden have no chance to get somewhere cool and green if they want to. take the water off industry instead. melbourne looks like a dried out gold rush town when everything is dead.
11. remove QV supermarket to somewhere far far away
12. remove AFL shop from city.
13. ban football
14. ban dudes walking around in pink shorts and brown thongs
15. moar slappers

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:26 pm

regardless of the options you at least have to have some respect for the council for actually engaging in a dialogue with the community on this one. i'm a bit suprised, but very glad.

you know it seems like things are getting better in that area. case in point was the 2am lock out. everyone threw their hands up, the government saw that and didn't go ahead. tbh i was suprised at that too.

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:27 pm

nic wrote:1. put some trees in that arent Plane trees, plus low level planting x bazillion.
2. remove slow walkers
3. less street infrastructure. like not heaps of gutters and steps and different levels and ins and outs parking type things. should do one flat level for whole street including footpaths and have LARGE colour markings on.
4. cars gtfo, buses gtfo, shit taxi drivers gtfo.
5. less crap shops
6. less hot wind and flying dust in summer
7. better food.
8. less people.
9 fix up that god fucking awful aborted 'public' space outside the Westin. (no sand please) make a huge green ramped bank with a gigantic floating oblong or something to obscure the filth building behind. moar trees.
10. stop with the water shortage policy of no greening the parks / fountains in summer thing, its a rubbish minor gesture and means that people with no garden have no chance to get somewhere cool and green if they want to. take the water off industry instead. melbourne looks like a dried out gold rush town when everything is dead.
11. remove QV supermarket to somewhere far far away
12. remove AFL shop from city.
13. ban football
14. ban dudes walking around in pink shorts and brown thongs
15. moar slappers

16. Replace Robert Doyle with nic

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:56 pm

Nic for mayor. giddy up.

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:57 pm

10.15 wrote:
nic wrote:1. put some trees in that arent Plane trees, plus low level planting x bazillion.
2. remove slow walkers
3. less street infrastructure. like not heaps of gutters and steps and different levels and ins and outs parking type things. should do one flat level for whole street including footpaths and have LARGE colour markings on.
4. cars gtfo, buses gtfo, shit taxi drivers gtfo.
5. less crap shops
6. less hot wind and flying dust in summer
7. better food.
8. less people.
9 fix up that god fucking awful aborted 'public' space outside the Westin. (no sand please) make a huge green ramped bank with a gigantic floating oblong or something to obscure the filth building behind. moar trees.
10. stop with the water shortage policy of no greening the parks / fountains in summer thing, its a rubbish minor gesture and means that people with no garden have no chance to get somewhere cool and green if they want to. take the water off industry instead. melbourne looks like a dried out gold rush town when everything is dead.
11. remove QV supermarket to somewhere far far away
12. remove AFL shop from city.
13. ban football
14. ban dudes walking around in pink shorts and brown thongs
15. moar slappers

16. Replace Robert Doyle with nic

but then robert doyle would be posting on mb...........

and robert doyle would be putting a donk on it..

ohh and afl shop should be next to hsv shop in fountain gate imo

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:51 pm

fix up imo

Sustain · Post by **Sustain** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:13 pm

same o wrote:
10.15 wrote:
nic wrote:1. put some trees in that arent Plane trees, plus low level planting x bazillion.
2. remove slow walkers
3. less street infrastructure. like not heaps of gutters and steps and different levels and ins and outs parking type things. should do one flat level for whole street including footpaths and have LARGE colour markings on.
4. cars gtfo, buses gtfo, shit taxi drivers gtfo.
5. less crap shops
6. less hot wind and flying dust in summer
7. better food.
8. less people.
9 fix up that god fucking awful aborted 'public' space outside the Westin. (no sand please) make a huge green ramped bank with a gigantic floating oblong or something to obscure the filth building behind. moar trees.
10. stop with the water shortage policy of no greening the parks / fountains in summer thing, its a rubbish minor gesture and means that people with no garden have no chance to get somewhere cool and green if they want to. take the water off industry instead. melbourne looks like a dried out gold rush town when everything is dead.
11. remove QV supermarket to somewhere far far away
12. remove AFL shop from city.
13. ban football
14. ban dudes walking around in pink shorts and brown thongs
15. moar slappers

16. Replace Robert Doyle with nic
but then robert doyle would be posting on mb...........

and robert doyle would be putting a donk on it..

ohh and afl shop should be next to hsv shop in fountain gate imo

ooo fuck footy: ur all so cultured

...anyone see the 'dream redevelopment' in the age the other week?
talk of an 'elizabeth st creek' with amsterdam style bridges over it. basically diggin up the road, re opening the williams creek which once flowed there, and creating a big inner city parkland. awesome!

Post by **huge** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:15 pm

nic wrote:1. put some trees in that arent Plane trees, plus low level planting x bazillion.
2. remove slow walkers
3. less street infrastructure. like not heaps of gutters and steps and different levels and ins and outs parking type things. should do one flat level for whole street including footpaths and have LARGE colour markings on.
4. cars gtfo, buses gtfo, shit taxi drivers gtfo.
5. less crap shops
6. less hot wind and flying dust in summer
7. better food.
8. less people.
9 fix up that god fucking awful aborted 'public' space outside the Westin. (no sand please) make a huge green ramped bank with a gigantic floating oblong or something to obscure the filth building behind. moar trees.
10. stop with the water shortage policy of no greening the parks / fountains in summer thing, its a rubbish minor gesture and means that people with no garden have no chance to get somewhere cool and green if they want to. take the water off industry instead. melbourne looks like a dried out gold rush town when everything is dead.
11. remove QV supermarket to somewhere far far away
12. remove AFL shop from city.
13. ban football
14. ban dudes walking around in pink shorts and brown thongs
15. moar slappers

seconded

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:01 pm

Sustain wrote: ooo fuck footy: ur all so cultured

...anyone see the 'dream redevelopment' in the age the other week?
talk of an 'elizabeth st creek' with amsterdam style bridges over it. basically diggin up the road, re opening the williams creek which once flowed there, and creating a big inner city parkland. awesome!

i like footy atm tbh.. st.kilda ftw..

footy shop tho is waste.. who the fuck wanna buy that shit.

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:23 pm

yes fuck footy sustain - this thread is for serial urban design community worksopping.
moar white wine, olives, poofters and street partays k you big double entendre badman you.

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:26 pm

nic wrote:yes fuck footy sustain - this thread is for serial urban design community worksopping.
moar white wine, olives, poofters and street partays k you big double entendre badman you.

i love u

Sustain · Post by **Sustain** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:10 am

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:51 am

Melbourne is a bloody well designed city. The subtle things like the 3 block north south and 2 block east west limitations on high rises so that laneways are never overly blocked from the sun.

Swanston St could be better, and we could be more accommodating to bikes. But in terms of pedestrian access and experience, I rate highly.

Sustain wrote: ...anyone see the 'dream redevelopment' in the age the other week?
talk of an 'elizabeth st creek' with amsterdam style bridges over it. basically diggin up the road, re opening the williams creek which once flowed there, and creating a big inner city parkland. awesome!

Imagine how lovely the water would be!! so brown and thick with vile from the Saturday night chuck!!

Not naturally flowing into other waterways would mean stagnent crapness.

And park land in the city! Imagine Melbourne if it has parkland.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:55 pm

lol D

i think you made your point well and truly (and a valid one at that)

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:07 pm

hahah

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:56 pm

nice pics love.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:40 pm

no worries sweetie.

Kaiproject · Post by **Kaiproject** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:15 pm

yeh interesting stuff

we sat down over beers with a projector and discussed this at work (landscape architects altho im not one)

lots of the options have benefits but all have downsides. hrm

i dunno i cant remember if anyone had any good ideas was too busy eating all the chips and drinking all the beer

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:39 pm

DBoy wrote:

point well made, full marks. melbourne has the best green spaces.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:41 pm

ahh, you must be a journalist, pick out the worst bits and make them seem like the point?

Could always be done better, but come on, parks around melbourne are not bad for choice.

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:45 pm

yeah, i agree, we're pretty spoiled for choice on the cbd fringe, and that doesn't even count inner-city parks like edinburgh gardens. the only real complaint i have about melbourne parks is that the one up the top of napier st on alexandra pde is a bit shit really. but yeah, they've done really well at making heaps of really nice green spaces to spend time in. unfortunately, apart from domain, they seem to put them in the least pt-friendly places possible (victoria st, king st, spring st, etc) but it's not that far so just suck it up and walk you lazy shite.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:46 pm

I think it best you seek help.

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:49 pm

that is pretty incoherent, isn't it.

bad:
* the shit little park up the top of napier st next to fitzroy pool
* most parks generally being relatively inconvenient for pt

good:
* lots of them
* generally quite nice
* the lunch i'm about to eat (can't decide what to have tho)

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:59 pm

dan england speak good much????

Post by **lynt** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:15 pm

FIX THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:29 pm

So fucking true!

Post by **fooishbar** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:42 pm

lynt wrote:FIX THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM

word!

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:56 pm

lynt wrote:FIX THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM

GO BACK TO SWEEDEN WHERE CONNEX IS GOOD

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:57 pm

I think thats what Melb council say a lot but dont have much they can do about it

tee193 · Post by **tee193** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:38 pm

they just need to put several large donks on it and around it

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:43 pm

tee193 wrote:they just need to put several large donks on it and around it

SCIENCE

Post by **huge** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:04 pm

a donk here and there might look pretty good. ive heard they are quite practical and actually improve the usability of their surrounds.

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:09 pm

imo

Post by **fooishbar** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:22 pm

same o wrote:SWEEDEN

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:12 pm

im a waste