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Can anyone help me with employment?? I am looking for anything. Now uni is over my current employer can only offer me 2 days a week and i need more than that.

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yeah i tried that and i've only had one reply.


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http://careers.optus.com.au/

shit goin here alot of the time... dunno if its your bag, but the pay aint shit, just the work...

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ok, lets narrow it down:

- will u work weekends?
- had any sales experience?


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I found out about all my jobs through Seek pretty much exclusively. I applied for like 50 or so jobs in one day, and that was looking back around a week and a half. I got like 6 or 7 interview slots organised through that. So the strike rate was pretty good for me. My resume also kicked arse :D. Also having a great track record with staying with companies for extended terms (2-3 years) also helped, recruiters LOVE that. It's also important to be really positive, it was really hard going for a while there for me, cause I felt kinda useless whilst just waiting waiting and waiting. But I got there in the end.

Also, I found that it's important not to totally compromise on every single little thing if you can afford to go without more work for a little while longer. You will be happier, and not resent your decision to work for a particular company. Also, having said that, it's important to focus on the benefits. And if those far outweigh the negatives, then you should do well. Apply for jobs even if you think you won't get them, just apply, apply, apply.

Eventually you will get a call from a recruitment agency (mostly). If you make a good impression on a recruiter, then that's half the battle. Even if you fluff up a second interview, you can always go back to the agency if you have a good relationship with them and they can always keep an ear to the ground for you, and/or give you a point of contact for anything that they might think you would be best suited for. It is a hard slog, I should know. But the best thing was getting in good with those agencies. Wow the fuck out of them, and they'll want to put you into something pretty bloody quick smart. Be dynamic. Be professional. But don't be a robot either, act enthusiastic, and be prepared for any question they'll throw at you. Look around on the web for "Behavioural based questions" regarding interviews. Best resource I ever had.

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Can anyone help me with employment?? I am looking for anything. Now uni is over my current employer can only offer me 2 days a week and i need more than that.

Please, anyone i need a JOB.


dude, approach recruitment consultancies directly, specify type of work you are after, and have a good up to date resume.

I would say call centre-ish work with with infrequent hours should not be hard to come by given the significant capacity constraints prevalent in the current labour market.

go to these guys

http://www.hays.com.au
http://www.michaelpage.com.au
http://www.spectrumpersonnel.com.au

think i have those websites right, not sure. Just check the names of advertisers on seek and then go to the agencies direct.

Also I know a lot of gov agencies take on summer extras to do a lot of processing work, for example ASIC, shouldn't be too hard to get something with them, just find out who does their recruiting and you should be fine. If you ring em I cant see why they wouldnt be transparent about it.

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thought of some others

http://www.link.com.au
http://www.hjb.com.au

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I'm currently looking for someone with fashion retail experience to work in the store I manage... If anyone has fashion retail experience and wants a few days work a week pm me :)


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I'm currently looking for someone with fashion retail experience to work in the store I manage... If anyone has fashion retail experience and wants a few days work a week pm me :)


Where do you work? I dont have fashion retail experience but i wouldn't mind working in a clothing store.


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http://careers.optus.com.au/

shit goin here alot of the time... dunno if its your bag, but the pay aint shit, just the work...


Just so happens Quicken's referred me there, and that was 18 months ago! Pays decent, if you've got thick skin....if not, don't worry your grow one!
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What sort of work?
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kronz wrote:
Can anyone help me with employment?? I am looking for anything. Now uni is over my current employer can only offer me 2 days a week and i need more than that.

Please, anyone i need a JOB.


dont hire him he's crazy....................

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kronz wrote:
Can anyone help me with employment?? I am looking for anything. Now uni is over my current employer can only offer me 2 days a week and i need more than that.

Please, anyone i need a JOB.


dont hire him he's crazy....................



FUCK OFF FATTY!!! I"M COMING TO YOUR PLACE NOW.


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What sort of hours?
What's your experience?


Well anything. I'd prefer not to be in hospitality but if thats all i can get well.... I'd like 9-5 mon-fri but i'm not really in a position to be picky.
I've been in retail/hospitality for the past 7 years.
I have a bachelor of International Relations (which involved a work at an environmental NGO) and i'm currently doing a Grad. Dip. in Accounting.

Please HELP me find an interesting job.

Thanks all for you help so far :D :D


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i found the most interesting jobs is the ones you find yourself.

you can only know what you are passionate about and what you want to do in life/work. I really look at both as being the same -- you gotta be passionate about something.

don't just look at it like a 'job' its your damn life! :D

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^^^ word.
If u arent thinking of work as a chore so much but more as a lifestyle u get so much more milage from ur job.
But without some sort of profession you enjoy, that can be very hard.
Im in that boat at the moment.


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i found the most interesting jobs is the ones you find yourself.

you can only know what you are passionate about and what you want to do in life/work. I really look at both as being the same -- you gotta be passionate about something.

don't just look at it like a 'job' its your damn life! :D

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I think the kind of effort required to get that kind of job requires time, and if you need a job desperately, then thats not possible. You just need to stay motivated and continue looking after you've got the money coming in from some job a little less desirable.

Plus if you're studying still, then you desired job may not be wise, as it would most probably take away some required time and effort for study...

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What sort of hours?
What's your experience?


Well anything. I'd prefer not to be in hospitality but if thats all i can get well.... I'd like 9-5 mon-fri but i'm not really in a position to be picky.
I've been in retail/hospitality for the past 7 years.
I have a bachelor of International Relations (which involved a work at an environmental NGO) and i'm currently doing a Grad. Dip. in Accounting.

Please HELP me find an interesting job.

Thanks all for you help so far :D :D


What sort of retail experience you have???

I work for Made In Japan, and we can always use someone......

Have any store manager experience????


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i found the most interesting jobs is the ones you find yourself.

you can only know what you are passionate about and what you want to do in life/work. I really look at both as being the same -- you gotta be passionate about something.

don't just look at it like a 'job' its your damn life! :D

/rant.


I think the kind of effort required to get that kind of job requires time, and if you need a job desperately, then thats not possible. You just need to stay motivated and continue looking after you've got the money coming in from some job a little less desirable.

Plus if you're studying still, then you desired job may not be wise, as it would most probably take away some required time and effort for study...


Life is study, you never stop learning i'm telling you man. I don't know what school of thought you have envisaged yourself, but if work is looked upon as a chore and study as a means to an end -- i'm afraid you're riding the wrong wave to success.

The greatest formula I found is:

Inborn Attributes + Acquired Attributes * Attiitude = Individual Success

Inhibiting factors are fear. i.e fear of time, not doing something for the sake of not doing it, stress and time management concerns, money concerns. People generally will always be in a balance or comfort zone so to speak that maintains their equilibrium.

Your comfort zone as I see it is just having enough money to get by, maybe save a little, maybe study all in conjunction.

From what i've learnt/studied/experienced in my life -- you must familiarise yourself with your dreams when you were little. What you want to do, envisage each step as you DO them.

I don't mean to preach or tell you how to accept work -- but people especially friends I know always settle for less than they are and continue on a routine of hard work = success; this in a lot of cases will work if you enjoy hard work and a same level of money.

The more money, the more bills -- it's in your nature to 'expect' certain things. The best that I know is to live out what you WANT to do. If you let your environment dictate your ambition/passion you are only harming yourself.

I never look at work as being something to do to get by.

It's a conscious choice. I've heard a great quote "If you go to work everyday on something you love, you have never really worked a day in your life"


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dude he just needs a job to buy some food and pay bills shit. lol.

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study as a means to an end -- i'm afraid you're riding the wrong wave to success.


how does that work?

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dude he just needs a job to buy some food and pay bills shit. lol.


haha... no shit...

Rob, I never said anything about me, you don't know me...

Looking for the right job is almost full time work, and if you just need cash, then thats not the time to do it... set your self up, then start....

and working for your career job will affect your study if you've never worked hard whilst studying before.

The man just needs a job for now... JUST A JOB ROB... :lol:

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flippo wrote:
dude he just needs a job to buy some food and pay bills shit. lol.


It may seem trivial, but consider how negative that statement is. "he just needs a job" -- of course everyone needs the triage of human survival; food, shelter, security and so forth -- but if it's a job you want, it's a job you'll get. If it's a passion you want it's life you'll get!

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study as a means to an end -- i'm afraid you're riding the wrong wave to success.


how does that work?


You can only study so much, anyone will be an expert at anything as long as you distinguish yourself in whatever you wish to do. The best thing is to specialise, not to feel that studying anything will make you learned.

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The man just needs a job for now... JUST A JOB ROB... :lol:


I do realise this -- but it's good to have opinion. I just see it time and time again, people settle for less than they are. If it's JUST A JOB then see how you will enjoy it.

Seriously negativity reigns in this city of ours or what?!?!?!


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ok I can see where you comming from, a couple of things though:

-- you dont know if kronz is chasing their dreams already, or if they even have career based dreams, which they dont have to.
-- specializing often requires studying, and lots of it.
-- even dreams jobs become just jobs from day to day.
-- there is just not enough flexability in socioty for everyone to do exactly what they want
-- could be the internets fault, but you came across a bit arogant there, like you where looking down on people (just thought id say so! no hard feelings)
-- "excuse me sir, you have not payed rent in 2 months, pehaps you should get some more hours to get on top of things?" "no time for that! I want to be the worlds most famous surealist painter!"
-- some people, infact most people, are happy to work at whatever their job is if its not terrible, for them life is about their freinds, their family, their kids, comming home to cuddle their spouce and enjoying a good glass of wine, whatever.



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ok I can see where you comming from, a couple of things though:

-- you dont know if kronz is chasing their dreams already, or if they even have career based dreams, which they dont have to.
-- specializing often requires studying, and lots of it.
-- even dreams jobs become just jobs from day to day.
-- there is just not enough flexability in socioty for everyone to do exactly what they want
-- could be the internets fault, but you came across a bit arogant there, like you where looking down on people (just thought id say so! no hard feelings)
-- "excuse me sir, you have not payed rent in 2 months, pehaps you should get some more hours to get on top of things?" "no time for that! I want to be the worlds most famous surealist painter!"
-- some people, infact most people, are happy to work at whatever their job is if its not terrible, for them life is about their freinds, their family, their kids, comming home to cuddle their spouce and enjoying a good glass of wine, whatever.



aite playa, peace...
yeh fair points. although i never mentioned 'dream jobs', flexibility, priorities, commitments etc.

Yes the internet might make me sound arrogant, but you are reading what i'm writing in your own 'voice' if you know what i mean. So you automatically assume that i'm being condescending or derogatory; and to be fair i'm not really, just stating opinion and what i've learnt as I move through.

I never stated I was an expert at life, or a guru of choice. I'm merely commenting about decisions, direction, things i know and have come to know by observing/interacting/learning from experiences that i've had personally.

I think to bestow wisdom of any form is the best way to form your OWN opinion that later translates to choice :)

Sorry if anything sounded bad by the way I wrote it -- anything I impart is only meant to help. And by far am I no means an expert in knowing who each and everyone is and what they should do. It's really up to YOU.


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ok I can see where you comming from, a couple of things though:

-- you dont know if kronz is chasing their dreams already, or if they even have career based dreams, which they dont have to.
-- specializing often requires studying, and lots of it.
-- even dreams jobs become just jobs from day to day.
-- there is just not enough flexability in socioty for everyone to do exactly what they want
-- could be the internets fault, but you came across a bit arogant there, like you where looking down on people (just thought id say so! no hard feelings)
-- "excuse me sir, you have not payed rent in 2 months, pehaps you should get some more hours to get on top of things?" "no time for that! I want to be the worlds most famous surealist painter!"
-- some people, infact most people, are happy to work at whatever their job is if its not terrible, for them life is about their freinds, their family, their kids, comming home to cuddle their spouce and enjoying a good glass of wine, whatever.



aite playa, peace...


exactly my sentiments... well said...

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ok I can see where you comming from, a couple of things though:

-- you dont know if kronz is chasing their dreams already, or if they even have career based dreams, which they dont have to.
-- specializing often requires studying, and lots of it.
-- even dreams jobs become just jobs from day to day.
-- there is just not enough flexability in socioty for everyone to do exactly what they want
-- could be the internets fault, but you came across a bit arogant there, like you where looking down on people (just thought id say so! no hard feelings)
-- "excuse me sir, you have not payed rent in 2 months, pehaps you should get some more hours to get on top of things?" "no time for that! I want to be the worlds most famous surealist painter!"
-- some people, infact most people, are happy to work at whatever their job is if its not terrible, for them life is about their freinds, their family, their kids, comming home to cuddle their spouce and enjoying a good glass of wine, whatever.



aite playa, peace...
yeh fair points. although i never mentioned 'dream jobs', flexibility, priorities, commitments etc.

Yes the internet might make me sound arrogant, but you are reading what i'm writing in your own 'voice' if you know what i mean. So you automatically assume that i'm being condescending or derogatory; and to be fair i'm not really, just stating opinion and what i've learnt as I move through.

I never stated I was an expert at life, or a guru of choice. I'm merely commenting about decisions, direction, things i know and have come to know by observing/interacting/learning from experiences that i've had personally.

I think to bestow wisdom of any form is the best way to form your OWN opinion that later translates to choice :)

Sorry if anything sounded bad by the way I wrote it -- anything I impart is only meant to help. And by far am I no means an expert in knowing who each and everyone is and what they should do. It's really up to YOU.


yep, I'm just shareing my wisdom and views too. and we all learn from eachother and discussing things. I think there is something in that for all of us. I'm glad we had this discusion.

heh 8)

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haha getting back on track (Sorry Kronz). For those of you that just joined the thread, Kronz needs some work... :)

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haha getting back on track (Sorry Kronz). For those of you that just joined the thread, Kronz needs some work... :)


not just SOME work.... an inspirational life choice...







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What fucking fairy land do you live in Rob?

In the world I live in, we often have to do things, i.e. Work at jobs we may not want to work at in order to:
- Pay rent
- Eat food
- Not die.

I work in Superannuation. I personally couldn't give a fuck less about Super, but It's a lot more appetising than being hungry and homeless.


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haha getting back on track (Sorry Kronz). For those of you that just joined the thread, Kronz needs some work... :)


not just SOME work.... an inspirational life choice...







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maybe some inappropriate peer-to-teen choice behaviours to mix things up a little

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What fucking fairy land do you live in Rob?

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I personally couldn't give a fuck less

dude how negative are you? don't you listen to yourselves.

I'd rather live my dream then live through expectation. I'm not making this a slanging match because I have more dignity than some.

You choose what you do, I choose what I do because I have more passion then some :D


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Rob M wrote:
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What fucking fairy land do you live in Rob?

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I personally couldn't give a fuck less

dude how negative are you? don't you listen to yourselves.

I'd rather live my dream then live through expectation. I'm not making this a slanging match because I have more dignity than some.

You choose what you do, I choose what I do because I have more passion then some :D


It looks a lot more negative when you misquote and take things out of context.


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I have passions.... friends, socializing, music, sport... many other things, my job supports that, I'm happy.


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FUck guys (Rob M, Flippo, Quick) you have all made me :D .

I agree with what you are saying Rob, i do have career dreams and passion and i am chasing them through study. But unfortunatly i'm not in a position to fulfill those dreams now. I dont want to sound negative by saying i'm just looking 'for a job' but thats what i want (and i'm not selling myself short). I'm a full-time student and thats what my passion is. Now that uni is over for the year i need money for food, clothes, coffee and smokes etc. and maybe for a few of those internationals that will be rolling through town in the next few months. I'm sure you understand as you would have been in my position once. On another note Rob, what do you do?? It sounds like you really enjoy it.

Quick, in relation to the optus link you posted, what is the best department to apply for?? I have an interview at an optus world tomorrow but its only casual and i think i would be selling myself short if i accepted it (not that i can be fussy). I don't know if you remember me but i'm that guy that works in the juice bar off st. kilda rd that commented to your jugelist movement t-shirt.

Flippo thanks for your thoughts, i think they were needed to keep things in check.


Anyway i still looking for work and i keep you all posted if anything changes.

Thanks all, keep these comments coming its interesting to hear peoples views on work.
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On another note Rob, what do you do?? It sounds like you really enjoy it.


yeh i'm rolling my own business soon. firstly panning out the business plan, is fun and hard work at the start-and when I get it right I will be financially independant which i've never been myself.

So my dream is getting there slowly, currently unemployed, but i don't see it as that -- it just means I have more time to implement what i've learnt!!!

previously had a really very high paying job; but it wasn't me (and the IT industry is suffering; clients were dwindling and i knew my future wasn't in it), and the stress was shit, and can say I have enough to build freedom and choice into my life, so i'm moving into the direction of getting more so I can give.

I'm not as dense as some people think. I just tend to improve in areas that i'm suffering and it pans out for the best.

I'm doing what I enjoy now, and forsee opportunities opening.

and no, sorry I can't impart as to what area of business i'm doing, and it's not illegal. LOL.


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On another note Rob, what do you do?? It sounds like you really enjoy it.




I'm doing what I enjoy now, and forsee opportunities opening.

and no, sorry I can't impart as to what area of business i'm doing, and it's not illegal. LOL.


Well i hope it all works out for you :D
And i'm sure its not illegal but then again.........lol


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what u dtudying kronz?

and..... ophra? why?

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i have a B. International Relations
And now i'm doing a grad. dip. in accounting.

And Oprah....well i needed something when i signed up, i dont know that much about computers (i dont know how to shrink an image) and it was the first image i could find that was small enough. Having said that its starting to grow on me, mind you it could be so much better.


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And Oprah....well i needed something when i signed up, i dont know that much about computers (i dont know how to shrink an image) and it was the first image i could find that was small enough.


hhhhhhmmmmyeahbullshit.......... real story plz. :lol:

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And Oprah....well i needed something when i signed up, i dont know that much about computers (i dont know how to shrink an image) and it was the first image i could find that was small enough.


hhhhhhmmmmyeahbullshit.......... real story plz. :lol:


hes actually for real flip, trust me on this :lol:

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And Oprah....well i needed something when i signed up, i dont know that much about computers (i dont know how to shrink an image) and it was the first image i could find that was small enough.


hhhhhhmmmmyeahbullshit.......... real story plz. :lol:


hes actually for real flip, trust me on this :lol:


damn! heh

i need valerian or something, so not ready to sleep.

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i have a B. International Relations
And now i'm doing a grad. dip. in accounting.

And Oprah....well i needed something when i signed up, i dont know that much about computers (i dont know how to shrink an image) and it was the first image i could find that was small enough. Having said that its starting to grow on me, mind you it could be so much better.


You want to give her one of your special pearl necklaces dontcha :P

I think she'd look better if she was given the robocop treatment at the start of the movie, i hate oprah.

Good luck with the job hunting though mate, i'm not particularly looking forward to it, my city council job over here is soooo sweet and i get to drive nifty electric vehicles


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Quick, in relation to the optus link you posted, what is the best department to apply for?? I have an interview at an optus world tomorrow but its only casual and i think i would be selling myself short if i accepted it (not that i can be fussy). I don't know if you remember me but i'm that guy that works in the juice bar off st. kilda rd that commented to your jugelist movement t-shirt.


Hey, yeah I remember you, Feelin Fruity dude :lol: You upsized my smoothy once for free... ta :D

I don't think there is anything goin atm for optus, but check admin and customer service in melb, you can do a job search, just choose melb, salery and fulltime, you'll be right.

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