TEN YEARS OF NOTHING - not one fucking thing!

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You forgot the detractor who believes a company founded on the fundamentals of DIY punk rock integrity probably is a multinational company that has ethics.
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There's a stinking hippy on the board???

KILL MAIM DESTROY<<<<<

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ghetto kitty wrote:Fine, the Mb majority decrees that most companies are true and just,
that any questioning of said multinationals must be due to being a stinky hippy,
that capitalism isnt just the framework our society, it should be loved!
thankyou, you've summarised my position nicely. :lol:
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Does this mean I am the "moral majority".

Excellent.
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Tom is a leading conceptualist in alternate energy technology, mind/matter interaction, EM bioeffects, paranormal phenomena, parapsychology, psychotronics, Tesla technology, and unified field theory concepts. He is the leading advocate of scalar potential electromagnetics, and has worked with several inventors involved in alternate energy devices and scalar electromagnetic system prototypes. He advanced the first force-free redefinition of mass as well as an electromagnetic mechanism that generates the flow of time, and has proposed a testable resolution of the century-old debate over the way in which energy flows in electrical circuits. He defined charge q as a coupled system of two components, and not unitary at all. He advanced a mechanism for electromagnetically producing a vacuum engine, whereby the vacuum itself is utilized to energetically shape and manipulate matter and energy.

In August 1991 Sweet (now deceased) and Bearden reported in the hardcore technical literature Sweet's successful extraction of electromagnetic power (500 watts) from the vacuum, and the world's first highly successful antigravity experiment where the weight of a 6-pound device was reduced by 90 percent on the laboratory bench. Tom recently proposed and released worldwide a simple, novel mechanism for extracting free electrical energy from the vacuum and powering external loads. He and his CTEC colleagues are rapidly pioneering a formal theory of such overunity electrical machines. Four patents have been filed to date and two more are in progress.

He proposed a new mechanism and model for the interaction of EM fields and radiation with biological systems - the fundamental model used by EM bioeffects researchers is inadequate and yields contradictory experiments and studies, difficult or impossible replicability, and almost no fundamental causative mechanisms. Tom discovered and published a fundamental mechanism for generating a quantum potential, which produces action-at-a-distance as well as multiply connected spacetime. Utilizing personal and species quantum potentials, he has redefined cancer in a new light and advanced a primary long-term, cumulative causative mechanism for the disease. He has explained the causative mechanism for Priore's demonstrated total EM remissions of terminal tumors and other diseases such as trypanosomias and suppressed immune systems in laboratory animals under rigorous scientific protocols.

Tom is the author of several books and videotapes and numerous papers. He is President and CEO of CTEC, Inc., a private R&D corporation engaged in research on free energy devices and the mechanisms for interaction of EM fields and radiation with biological systems. He is president of the Association of Distinguished American Scientists (ADAS), a life member of the Alabama Academy of Science, and served on the Board of Directors of the U.S. Psychotronics Association and the American Association of Metascience. He edited and published Specula, Journal of the AAMS, for four years. He also served on the Board of Directors of Astron, Inc., a private aerospace R&D corporation in the greater Washington D.C. area, noted for its specialized RF antennas.

Tom is a guitarist, a retired akidoist (Sandan, Yoseikan style), is happily married and has two sons and two daughters. He and his wife Doris live in Huntsville, Alabama where Tom is retired from aerospace, continues private research, and serves as a special consultant to industry on scalar electromagnetics processes.
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Biographies of Bearden consistently state that he received a BS in Mathematics from Northeastern Louisiana University and an MS in Nuclear Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology.

Some time in or before 2001, Bearden began to identify himself as "Tom Bearden, Phd", with no affiliation or details. The Skeptical Inquirer, among others, revealed that Bearden purchased his PhD from Trinity College and University, which the magazine describes as "a British institution with no building, campus, faculty, or president, and run from a post office box in Sioux Falls, South Dakota". This institution is not accredited by any recognized accreditation association and is generally regarded as a degree mill. It has since changed its name to Bronte International University and its exact location is uncertain.

Although Bearden has defended his degree and claims to have written a PhD thesis, he has never made this thesis public. Since the controversy, he no longer identifies himself as "PhD" on the main page of his web site but, as of July 2005, was continuing to do so in correspondence.
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Over in the thread about Engineer Borg and his wacked-out electromagnetic theory of gravity, a commenter popped up and pointed at the web-site of someone named Tom Bearden, who supposedly has shown how to generate free "vacuum" energy using electronic and/or electromagnetic devices.

I hadn't heard of Dr. Bearden before, and promised to take a look at his website.

So I went and took a look. And wow, I hit the jackpot! This is an absolute masterwork of crackpottery. Dr Bearden's lunacy covers just about every conceivable topic, from conspiracy theories, to HIV denalism, to wacky physics, magical woo healing devices, post-Soviet KGB collaborations with the Japanese government to shoot down American planes and manipulate weather....

To give you a bit of flavor: he's got a bibliography of information that allegedly supports his theories. If you take a look at it, the first thing you see is listed as "National Science Foundation letter favorably reviewing Bearden Paper". The contents of that link consist of a scanned letter from the NSF replying to an email sent by Dr. Bearden, which consists of a basic standardized form letter inviting him to submit an actual proposal, and warning that he'd better include some proof that his perpetual motion machine really works, and an explanation of how.

Moving on.. The heart of most of Dr. Bearden's claims is that Maxwell's equations have been deliberately corrupted to eliminate concepts like "negative resistance" which can result in electrical systems generating more power than they consume. Let's take it from the beginning (in so far as I can identify a beginning on his nightmarishly organized website).

"Maxwell's" vector equations taught in university are actually Heaviside's truncated equations, and are only a simplified version of what Maxwell originally wrote.

The Maxwell-Heaviside theory of electrodynamics is now well over a century old, and is actually a serious truncation of Maxwell's 1865 theory of 20 equations in 20 unknowns (those are specifically listed in the original published paper in 1865). Because it was "tainted" with a higher group symmetry algebra (quaternions), even Maxwell himself came under intense pressure to simplify it, after the publication of the first edition of his famous Treatise in 1873. Consequently, Maxwell was rewriting and greatly "watering down" his own Treatise, having finished rewriting and greatly reducing some 80% of it at the time of his death in 1879. The second edition and third edition, therefore, are NOT the original Maxwellian theory, but a very serious truncation.

The further great "simplification" occurred by several scientists after Maxwell's death, in the 1880s, and notably by Heaviside, Hertz, and Gibbs. The equations taught today at university as "Maxwell's theory" are pale shadows, and those equations themselves are actually the equations and notations of Heaviside, further "symmetrically regauged" by Lorentz (which very neatly threw out all COP>1.0 EM systems taking their excess energy from the vacuum in the form of free asymmetrical regauging). At the time these altered Maxwell equations were adopted in general, it occurred in a short "debate" (mostly in the journal Nature) where the vectorists simply discarded the quaternists' work, etc. It was not done by "sweet science", but by sheer dogma and individual preference for "simplicity".

This is a thoroughly mangled version of the history of Maxwell's equations. Here's a brief version of real history:

Maxwell published the first form of his equations - 20 equations in 20 unknowns.
Maxwell reformulated his 20 equations into a set of 4 quaternion equations.
Heaviside translated Maxwell's quaternion equations into vector equations.
Special relativity once again reformulated Maxwell's equations using 4-vectors and removing the "universal reference frame assumption".
The claim of Bearden is that in the re-formulations of Maxwell's equation, something was lost. He claims that the original version of Maxwell's equation included the ability to do something that he calls "free asymmetrical regauging", which extracts energy from a vacuum.

That's the most mathematically robust part of Bearden's rambling. From there, it degenerates rapidly into pure babble:

So our present classical theory still implicitly retains the material ether more than 100 years after that ether was falsified by the Michelson-Morley experiments. Not an equation was changed after those experiments! The "Maxwellians" as they are referred to, all originally assumed the material ether, which meant that they assumed there was not a single point in the entire universe that was devoid of mass. Consequently, the EM fields were--to them--obviously very material fields indeed; they ALWAYS occurred in mass (e.g., in the material ether). They were therefore erroneously assumed to be force fields. Mass is actually a component of force (though that is still ignored in classical mechanics as well); there is no separate mass-free force acting upon a separate mass, because the phrase "mass-free force" itself is an oxymoron). Many foundations physicists have discussed this "material origin of force", so it is well-known by leading scientists (though seldom known to engineers).
First: Mass is a component of force? Since when? "mass-free force" is an oxymoron? Where's this stuff coming from? We know that light and other electromagnetic waves can exert a force - in fact, Maxwell's equations describe that. But light is massless.

Second: Maxwell's equations did a remarkable job of describing electromagnetism. the fact that we discovered that the aether assumption was incorrect didn't mean that we would throw them away - they still do their job of predicting electromagetic interactions quite well. Newton's laws of motion assume that mass is a fixed quantity - which we now know is incorrect. But that doesn't mean that we don't use Newton's laws - in non-relativistic settings, they remain an extremely accurate tool. And that's a darned good metaphor, because just like relativity includes a correction to fix Newton's laws of motion, it also includes a correction to Maxwell's equations.

So we have a peculiar situation and one of the great stalemates in human history: In modern physics terms, a "force" is generated in, on, and of a mass (e.g., a charged mass) when the volumetric mass-free fields (as curvatures of spacetime relativistically, or as altered virtual particle flux of the vacuum region in particle physics) in mass-free space interact with and on a charged mass. That ongoing interaction is indeed what a "force" identically is, prior to observation. Note that this also gives a physical mechanism to the notion of "asymmetrical regauging", where the potentials (and potential energy) of the system (in this case, the interacting charged mass) is freely changed.
Gibberish, written up in fancy terminology. Basically, what this is doing is mucking around with the symmetry concept of relativity. Relativity says that you can switch reference frames in ways that alter the apparent energy of a mass. For example, if you consider a body and an observer, and you treat the observer as stationary, then the mass will have some velocity, and thus some kinetic energy relative to that reference frame. You can switch to a frame in which the observer is moving, and the velocity and kinetic energy of the body will appear to be different. Nothing has changed - the translation between reference frames is symmetric. This process is called regauging.

But Quaternions are not symmetric. So if you use the quaternion form of Maxwell's equations, and do the relativistic reference frame shift, you can get a non-symmetric reguage - which, if you work through the equations, means that you can create energy. Or you could, if in fact the quaternion form of Maxwell's equations was compatible with relativity. Which they aren't.

So what Bearden is arguing, ultimately, is that the viewpoint change represented by a shift of a reference-frame has real physical implications: by simply switching reference frames to one in which there is more energy, we can get energy. After all, if you do the relativistic reference-frame translation using quaternions, you get a non-symmetric translation where there is more energy than before the translation. So it's surplus energy, generated from nowhere.

The problem is that he's thoroughly botching the math. He's insisting on using the non-symmetric quaternion form of Maxwell's equations; but he's also insisting on using the symmetric translation of relativity - even though the two are completely incompatible. The "free energy" is coming from the performing a translation that's dependent on a kind of symmetry on a set of values that do not possess the required symmetry. It's a basic math error - roughly like applying a theorem derived for an abelian group to an algebra on a non-abelian group.

From there, it degenerates into pure conspiracy theory, about how many times free energy devices have been invented and surpressed; how the KGB in collaboration with Japan used an electromagnetic free-energy weapon to shoot down TWA flight 800; how all of the weather in North America since 1976 has been artificially managed/produced using electromagnetic free-energy devices; how AIDS is really a weapon in biological warfare, how EMFE devices can cure cancer, AIDS, SARS, anthrax, and any genetic disorder in one 30 second treatment, but it's all being covered up by Big Pharma.

Bearden is, quite possibly, the looniest crackpot I've found so far.
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Watch the posted video on YouTube.

Oh my god.

So Awesome.
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Morning beaters and burners.

Today seems to be the perfect day to throw caution to the wind and tender my resignation if the company I work for doesn't make some adjustments to improve my conditions and grant me a few wishes that would enable me to keep dragging myself into the office to battle low staff morale, reviewing renumeration and increased fiscal responsibilty to facilitate me to carry out the role I'm fulfilling instead of wasting my talent in a dead end situation.

But first a slow walk across the CBD and a leisurely visit to Degreaves for an indulgent cup of coffee....

Hows everyone else rolling today?
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Why do women insist on bringing up rape allegations when you are trying to do a funny segment with a lie detector? Don't they realise it's breakfast. Keep it light.
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Blaxter wrote:Hows everyone else rolling today?
Nothing better than a 7:30am phone call from a wrong number to start your day. :evil:
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Does anyone know if there are still Apple Geniuses at Myer?

My mac won't turn on.

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If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have to at least consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird from the Family Anatidae on our hands.
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I have just discovered that I love cryptic crosswords.

All I need to do now is gather between 23-31 cats, a stick to hit small children with and some shoes with zippers and I'm set for old age.
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Cruisey day today, my book has started to cover the potential of tapping into alternate physical matrices behind the space time continuum - its quite good.
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smashed it at festy awards.

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wtf is Sam S doing in that photo? I work with him.
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Environmental Science?
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its tony coleman imo
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What up peoples. Been a while. Hope everyone is well and good. Saw Nic and Quick and Valuetime in London a few weeks back. Nice. :wave:

Stay legendary, the lot of ya.
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Weekend was awesome. Didn't quite land it properly, a little more sideways than I anticipated.
Best bits were walking out of work at 5pm on Friday, smashing it before and after Raiden, calling in sick this morning.
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Anyone have fake grass hookups?
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Marge Simpson like you've never seen her...

NSFW

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment ... aked.aspx#
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Amick wrote:Marge Simpson like you've never seen her...

NSFW

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment ... aked.aspx#
Lame. She doesn't even get her rat out.
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Hardy wrote:
Amick wrote:Marge Simpson like you've never seen her...

NSFW

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment ... aked.aspx#
Lame. She doesn't even get her rat out.
The leaked pics are lame, perhaps the real deal might be more interesting...still strange to me to be anticipating cartoon softporn. You seem disappointed Tom?
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New Rammstein video, its basically a porno so NSFW

http://www.visit-x.net/rammstein/
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morning :yawn:

the beautiful sunshine continues..
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stunning out there eh.
coming into work was tough to say the least.
think there might be semi-legitimate excuse for me to not come back to work post-interview today. hehe.
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almax wrote:New Rammstein video, its basically a porno so NSFW

http://www.visit-x.net/rammstein/

YOU HAVE A PUSSSSSSSY... I HAVE A DICKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

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Fuckin lol. Im on a break at work and im not sure if i'll ever go back
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i didn't.
RUN!
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lot's of eye candy out there today :love:
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Re-read Animal Farm on Monday night and 1984 last night.

Orwell was a genius and his dystopic predictions were spot on.
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I reckon the Nook is looking quite cool.

Runs on android, supports pdf and epub format books

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10379125-1.html
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C.I.A. wrote:Re-read Animal Farm on Monday night and 1984 last night.

Orwell was a genius and his dystopic predictions were spot on.
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apophenian wrote:I reckon the Nook is looking quite cool.

Runs on android, supports pdf and epub format books

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10379125-1.html
*argh shit double post, shitty bigpond*
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apophenian wrote:I reckon the Nook is looking quite cool.

Runs on android, supports pdf and epub format books

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10379125-1.html
yeah agreed sounds/looks good. opensource/sharing/borrowing etc. the battle between this and Apple's release will be interesting just like iphone vs android...

apple trying to snap up all the publishers to get rights to tons of ebooks etc...
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Fucking LOL Karlos! That sums up that show perfectly!
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Lynt that made me laugh my ass off. They've got AMAZING equipment don't they :lol:
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Faaaarken, how quiet does it want to be around here?

Don't be hatin' on CSI: Miami y'all. That show is teh awesome. An old housemate of mine was well into it and forced me to watch it one day. By the end, she was somewhat distressed that "that episode wasn't as good as usual", after I laughed heartily at every piece of gnarly-awesome-crime-fighting-science. She also didn't appreciate every close up shot of David Caruso being accompanied by "Look! He's wearing mascara. Look at his fucking mascara!!!" Mind you, she also didn't believe he was wearing mascara. Ahhh, bit dim that one.

Pretty sure the writers are taking the piss though. I refuse to believe it could be that absurd without some sort of human influence. If you watch it as a study in script writers pushing the envelope of what they can get away with, it is actually very entertaining. If you also take it as given that David Caruso is, in fact, an embalmed corpse being lugged around the set Weekend At Bernies-style, it is even better :D
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^^ don't forget Nick Thayer has some tunes on the show too
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I love yelling at CSI. I'm all 'AS IF!!'

Except for the goth girl who digs death. She is the only normal thing about that show.
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thats not CSI CIA that NCIS and her name is abbey (pauly perette) i will have you know <3
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CSI = shit

NCIS = good.
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Re: THE THREAD ABOUT NOTHING!

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ghetto kitty wrote:CSI = shit

NCIS = good.
I'd rather go to the pub imo. :D
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Fents wrote:thats not CSI CIA that NCIS and her name is abbey (pauly perette) i will have you know <3
Huh?

What is SVU? Is that CSI SVU or NCIS SVU?

Wait. I've just googled it. There is more than one CSI??? Do bad tv programs breed?? When can we expect to see the genetically mutated syphillitic offspring of two and a half men??
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never i hope, jeebus that would be bad


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