Beat.Aid - Jan 14 @ PoW - B.L.I.M, Nubreed, MC Tali + more

On Jan 14, 2005 the Melbourne Beats crew along with some 700+ people raised around $17,000 for the Asia Quake & Tsunami appeal. This forum is an archive of the organisational discussion for the event.
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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:48 pm

eskay wrote:that's a great idea Ben...

any of our extremely talented local artists keen? :lol:



its a good idea, though de we have enough time? unless someone knows a CD place, for cheap, that can cover the cost of the burn for the price we sell them for.

plus we have to sell them as well...

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:50 pm

so many ppl to choose from

lucas
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mangan
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zero tolerance crew
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steve may
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bass kleph (he'd been keen - i can put you in touch)

+ hip hop guys and drum&bass guys - heaps of possibilities ... i don't think you'd run into too much licencing politics and red tape on a local level.

it'd be a cool CD - great tunes, great cause

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:51 pm

a few places do them for limited cost

otherwise if 10 people each have burners - 10 people could burn 10 each at home on white discs ... I'd be happy to sit at home for a few hours and burn off 20 or so and cover the cost of the discs.

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Post by eskay » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:52 pm

me too. I got a burner and all next week free to spread my time between flyering, postering and burning....
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Post by Ag3nT[]0raNg3 » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:53 pm

i also haveaccess to a cd duplicator that prints onto the printable discs and burns at the same time. can do next week no probs.
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Post by Mellogs » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:57 pm

I like the tape one too!!

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Post by B0mBjAcK » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:03 pm

Ani wrote:
T I C K A wrote:Do we have a definate line-up so that someone can started designing posters??? What should it say, etc, etc ???

Could we arrange a pick-up point for the posters ??? i'll cover the western subs ( North Melb, Footscray, Flemington, Kensington etc)



I am happy to have my place as a collection point, but i'm in Brunswick. Don't know if that suits everyone


Thats cool I could make it to Brunswick me thinks. I'll cover the east side.

As for the logo I agree with shepherd simply coz its simple punchy and gets the point across coz of the whole aid thing, red cross pluss the cross on the rekkid... damn im crap at explaining stuff :P

the cd ting sounds cool I'll def wanna get my hands on one, the tape for the covor of the cd would be mad :)
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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:03 pm

wicked guys, now we're talking.

i hope someone is taking minutes from this thread to discuss at the meeting tonight ;)

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Post by valuetime » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:13 pm

the issue with a red cross on a white background is that it's actually trademarked worldwide and is illegal:

Red Cross: "We often see the red cross emblem used as a decorative symbol on signs, in advertising or to indicate first aid stations. This may not seem like a problem, but it is wrong. Use of the emblem by commercial enterprises dilutes the impact of the symbol at home and abroad besides being against the law."

hence the other colours... anyways, i like the third one. a cross (reversed out) on a vinyl sticker. gets across the medium and the message and is the simplest of the four.

happy to mock up posters/cd art/whatever if you guys want. let me know how tonight goes.

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:17 pm

you could argue that quote from the red cross isn't applicable to a charity gig.

"of the emblem by commercial enterprises"

maybe white on red? :P

can i ask whether the prince are throwing any financial contribution into this? a % of alcohol sales would be noble considering.

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Post by lucas » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:17 pm

A CD is a great idea. I'd love to donate a tune.

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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:20 pm

shepherd wrote:can i ask whether the prince are throwing any financial contribution into this? a % of alcohol sales would be noble considering.



hmmmm i think the fact we got the venue is a big enough donation considering ;) i wouldnt wanna push too hard, though its worth a mention.

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Post by valuetime » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:26 pm

by all means you can use white on red: like the swissair logo.

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:27 pm

this could be misconstrued ... but the venue wasn't booked that night ... so one could as cynical to say they're maybe looking for bodies in shop above being charitable.

i think no venue hire is great, but i don't think it'd be that pushy raising the possibility of a bar contribution - even 5% of takings would be at least $500 with around 3-400 heads in the place.

Maybe ask for sponsorship assitance ... ie, if they can source 20 cases of 'x' beer ... will they buy it back off melbourne beats at normal wholesale cost to venue?

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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:34 pm

i agree, good ideas there ben.. but venue hire that night or not .. do you think that if we werent doing this for a charity that they'd force a hire charge on us, is all im sayin.

POW is much bigger then we initially had in mind.. so glad we have it.

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Post by breaksRbest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:39 pm

I haven't been on here for a while and have just read this, WICKED IDEA.

I'll be at the meeting tonight fo' shaw!!


I'll speak to a few DJ's etc that will most likely play on the night and also donate a track or two.

good work peeps! 8)
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Post by eskay » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:41 pm

good stuff geeza, was wondering where you've been 8)
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Post by Scotrod » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:48 pm

Hi everyone,
The Beats Working Crew are more than keen to get involved.
Thanks for letting us know about it Tjiana, Fi and co.
I'll see everyone at the meeting tonight.
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Post by mkultra » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:49 pm

valuetime wrote:the issue with a red cross on a white background is that it's actually trademarked worldwide and is illegal:

Red Cross: "We often see the red cross emblem used as a decorative symbol on signs, in advertising or to indicate first aid stations. This may not seem like a problem, but it is wrong. Use of the emblem by commercial enterprises dilutes the impact of the symbol at home and abroad besides being against the law."

hence the other colours... anyways, i like the third one. a cross (reversed out) on a vinyl sticker. gets across the medium and the message and is the simplest of the four.

happy to mock up posters/cd art/whatever if you guys want. let me know how tonight goes.

\m/


how about the record logo with the cross as two red band-aids, don't think you would run into too much trouble there....
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Post by Mellogs » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:50 pm

For those of us who wont be making it tonight but want to help out (eg. me as I'm working till 11pm. )

Could someone possibly take notes of main points and either email/post it please

Much appreciated!

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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:51 pm

Man, i leave for an hour and you guys are making cd's!

I think it's a great idea! I also have a burner.

I am taking notes from here for tonight, i have it all sorted people- trust!

And I like the idea of white on red, eye catching, but it may increase costs of producing posters etc

Can't wait to see you all down at E55 tonight--- this is it!!
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Post by stovequeen » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:51 pm

Glad to have you on board Scott.

Party wouldn't be the same without the BW crew. :D

Yeah, Lucas be da man for starting MB's :P

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:52 pm

mk's idea is the SHIZZZZLE! I like it :D

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Post by Lós Kasino— » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:53 pm

Mellogs wrote:For those of us who wont be making it tonight but want to help out (eg. me as I'm working till 11pm. )

Could someone possibly take notes of main points and either email/post it please

Much appreciated!


I second that...

wont be there.. but more than willing to put in...

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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:54 pm

Mellogs- I will post a run down of tonights meeting, and what teams are working on what particular project. You can pick a team if you like and work with them, so that by mid next week everything is on its way. So watch this space--- I will get all info on hopefully tonight

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Post by Mellogs » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:57 pm

btw, what time is the meeting?

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Post by mkultra » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:58 pm

I be catching up with bRb tomorrow night for the low down, I would like to lend a hand in some way....

it's been a while sheperd, you still got some dope information on event organisation...

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Post by breaksRbest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:59 pm

seriously, I'd advise staying well clear of any type of red cross on a white background. there have been a zillion lawsuits to stop people using it, even charities.


ps - I may be able to get a CD duplication company to do a run of CD's for us. I'll give 'em a call and let ya know tonight
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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:01 pm

Meeting:

8pm, E55.... 55 Elizabeth St.

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Post by Mellogs » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:01 pm

thanks ani :)

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Post by Friday » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:06 pm

if you do cds don't forget to get an amcos licence!

they may grant you a free licence (they have discretion to do this for things like this) but you still need to apply & do the paperwork!

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Post by witty_pseudonym » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:23 pm

T I C K A wrote:
Mellogs wrote:For those of us who wont be making it tonight but want to help out (eg. me as I'm working till 11pm. )

Could someone possibly take notes of main points and either email/post it please

Much appreciated!


I second that...

wont be there.. but more than willing to put in...


ditto to that.

let me know of anything i can do...have a burner if cds needed etc.

can't believe how much this has grown from the the humble beginnings. just goes to show that there's a real social conscience out there. amazing work everyone. would be well chuffed if i can help out in any way.
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Post by breaksRbest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:23 pm

can you please email me the Amcos details Ms Friday?
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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:26 pm

just spoke to my mate BRB .. all cool for permit.

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Post by breaksRbest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:28 pm

It's all happenin'


just so everyone knows what we're on about, I think you need a license to do fundraising events. they don't cost anything but you still need one.

Lynty bwoy is on the case

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:29 pm

do you need an AMCOS/APRA licence if the works are unreleased, unpublished and there is sign off and written consent to release the works at no charge from each of the artists?

www.apra.com.au
www.amcos.com.au

^^^ links to apra/amcos

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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:32 pm

breaksRbest wrote:It's all happenin'


just so everyone knows what we're on about, I think you need a license to do fundraising events. they don't cost anything but you still need one.

Lynty bwoy is on the case

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yeah she doesnt reckon you need one ... though who should we speak too incase? anyone know?

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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:35 pm

prince will have a contract with amcos/apra for royalties for music played on the night ... i think AMCOS/APRA only need to get involved for published/signed music

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Post by Friday » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:36 pm

shepherd wrote:do you need an AMCOS/APRA licence if the works are unreleased, unpublished and there is sign off and written consent to release the works at no charge from each of the artists?

www.apra.com.au
www.amcos.com.au

^^^ links to apra/amcos


i believe you do ben...

you need one even if you're doing a demo and giving it away for nothing!

whoever is organising the cd stuff should call amcos 9426 5200

it used to be sam (female sam) to speak to there re mechanical licences when i worked there... but that may have changed as it was a long time ago! :P :oops:

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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:36 pm

When I talk to the Prince tomorrow morning I'll check it out with them

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Post by Friday » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:37 pm

shepherd wrote:prince will have a contract with amcos/apra for royalties for music played on the night ... i think AMCOS/APRA only need to get involved for published/signed music


we're talking about the cd though ben! not the music played on the night.

yes prince will have an apra licence for the music on the night...

but you'll need an amcos licence to manufacture cds...

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Post by B0mBjAcK » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:41 pm

Love your avatar mkultra HTF rock! :D

Will e55 hold everyone? :P
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Post by shepherd » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:44 pm

cool cool ... i believe you lucie - you've done more cds than me ... just find it odd generally that AMCOS need to be involved for any CD that gets manufactured regardless of the works ... it doesn't surprise me though :)

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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:44 pm

ever been there on a friday night? :P

staff + dj are gonna love it fo' sho!

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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:49 pm

lynt wrote:ever been there on a friday night? :P

staff + dj are gonna love it fo' sho!


Yeah, they're gonna love it when we start rearranging the couches.... :roll:

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Post by eskay » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:52 pm

:lol:

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Post by lynt » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:55 pm

neither. they'll be sweet once the beer is flowing

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Post by Blueprint » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:58 pm

Nice work.. Happy to help out where I can, can play if there's a spot.. track shouldn't be a problem.. will see you tonight.. :)

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Post by Ani » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:00 pm

I'm thinking we can easily fill the half room by the toilets. So look for us there. Also keeps us out of the way of other non MB people.

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Post by breaksRbest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:01 pm

I called Amcos and the guy from licensing is gonna call me back


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