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Post by lynt » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:20 pm

I had the option of -25dB, but thought that would be too much. Didn't get to use them whilst DJ'ing, but that time will come.

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 1:24 pm

I need some of these bad...

can someone post the phone number of a clinic in the city? ringing is now my closest friend, even when I haven't been out :(

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Post by mrj » Wed May 02, 2007 1:28 pm

dude, that aint cool, sort that out pronto or you will really regret it.
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Post by Stray » Wed May 02, 2007 1:41 pm

what?

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 1:47 pm

yeah, I know... having trouble finding a clinic in the CBD or near by

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Post by FoundationStepper » Wed May 02, 2007 1:56 pm

i look after my ears well good

but despite this i have otosclerosis which means i could go deaf anyway

sucks

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 2:10 pm

I used to be really dilligent with my hearing between the ages of 17 and 21.... then somewhere along the line I just stopped being carefull :?

so that's a good 7 years of punishment

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 2:25 pm

FoundationStepper wrote:i look after my ears well good

but despite this i have otosclerosis which means i could go deaf anyway

sucks


so, which ear plugs do you recommend?

-15db or -25db?

I'm not sure which I need. -25db seema safer (preferable) but it may not be nessecary

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Post by C.I.A. » Wed May 02, 2007 2:29 pm

I've got the -15 and they are fine. I've used them since I was 18. That's quite a few years playing live music/rehearsing and now I use them for clubs.

I had my hearing tested and I'm still within the normal range.

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Post by Scholtzy » Wed May 02, 2007 2:36 pm

I got the -25dB ones

They seem to work fine, no more ringing when you leave the club....even after 6 hours or so.

Even though it cuts heaps of volume out your ears get used to the low volume and it seems loud anyway.

I haven't djed with them yet tho, been putting it off. I reckon -15db would be the better choice if you want it solely for mixing.

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Post by Fents » Wed May 02, 2007 2:43 pm

i could never mix with my -25 ones. keir does it all the time but i just couldnt get my head/ears round it. perfect for bad soundsystems tho.

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Post by dust » Wed May 02, 2007 2:59 pm

I've got the -15dB ones and they are great. Fine for listening and mixing. It took a bit of getting used to mixing with them, but now i think its better. just turn up the monitors.

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 3:14 pm

hmmm

maybe I should get both? -15db for mixing...

-25db for general club listening

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Post by Scholtzy » Wed May 02, 2007 3:16 pm

$$$!

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Post by andycoal » Wed May 02, 2007 3:18 pm

lol i know, u must be minted

just get a pair off chemical, theyre only like $30 im sure
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Post by unsoundbwoy » Wed May 02, 2007 3:58 pm

hearoz work fine for me $30 or $35 from allans in the city

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Post by FoundationStepper » Wed May 02, 2007 4:12 pm

agree

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 4:28 pm

my ear canal is quite narrow, I've always found those cheap ones to be VERY uncomfortable.

no I'm definitely not minted. But I've been worried about my hearing lately and also want to be able to keep DJing regularly. permanent damage to ears vs money? I think you know the answer to that one.

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Post by unsoundbwoy » Wed May 02, 2007 4:38 pm

i cant even use bud earphone or anything like that but didn't have troubles with the hearoz after the second or third wear. the rubber softens up a fair bit.
but of course the $200 pair will be more comfortable and work better.

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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 4:58 pm

I def getting the $200 ones, it's just a choice of -15 or -25

-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting

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Post by Dark Lord Piddle Bottom » Wed May 02, 2007 5:09 pm

edit head not working -

-25 front of house -15 djing
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Post by dust » Wed May 02, 2007 5:09 pm

deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting


Mathmatical genius.

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Post by FoundationStepper » Wed May 02, 2007 5:18 pm

if considering standard thoughts on hearing damage over time in noisy environments, one can look to workplace safety laws.

the basic recommendation is that you have have an average of 85dBA for up to 8 hours a day regulalrly. above this level/duration ratio you may experince hearing loss.

based on thisestimation...

a result of 95dBA means you can safely have up to about 45 minutes of exposure without any hearing damage, notwithstanding any peak sound pressures above this (or extreme low frequencies)

a result of 85dBA means you can safely have up to 8 hours of exposure. (its exponential)

that said, you arent in these environments every day or anything so this is probably being a little frugal.

personally id get the -15 dB ones and still be careful in where i stand and for how long

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Post by FoundationStepper » Wed May 02, 2007 5:20 pm

which is of course based on

log10*(8/t)

where t = the amount of time you will be exposed for

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Post by mrj » Wed May 02, 2007 5:21 pm

deviant wrote:my ear canal is quite narrow, I've always found those cheap ones to be VERY uncomfortable.

no I'm definitely not minted. But I've been worried about my hearing lately and also want to be able to keep DJing regularly. permanent damage to ears vs money? I think you know the answer to that one.


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Post by huge » Wed May 02, 2007 5:23 pm

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Post by FoundationStepper » Wed May 02, 2007 5:24 pm

same sorta thing i use

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Post by Dark Lord Piddle Bottom » Wed May 02, 2007 5:32 pm

huge wrote:i use these and they rock!!


You might want to try a larger size to stop the rocking, im sure it must get annoying?!
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Post by huge » Wed May 02, 2007 5:35 pm

are you saying my ears are abnormally large?
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Post by deviant » Wed May 02, 2007 5:52 pm

dust wrote:
deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting


Mathmatical genius.


:teef:

I was thinking out loud about 95db exposure if you must know :P

Foundation stepper on the other hand seams like he might be a bit of a mathematical genius ;)

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Post by dust » Wed May 02, 2007 5:56 pm

deviant wrote:
dust wrote:
deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting


Mathmatical genius.


:teef:

I was thinking out loud about 95db exposure if you must know :P

Foundation stepper on the other hand seams like he might be a bit of a mathematical genius ;)


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Post by a1studmuffin » Thu May 03, 2007 12:01 am

FoundationStepper wrote:same sorta thing i use

Same here. They fit my ear pretty well fortunately and help out a lot. I find the clubs in the UK tend to play a lot louder too, which is what made me buy some.

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Post by marcus » Thu May 03, 2007 12:23 am

I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.

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Post by FoundationStepper » Thu May 03, 2007 12:25 am

marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.


have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?

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Post by Flash » Thu May 03, 2007 12:35 am

[quote="huge"]i use these and they rock!!

http://www.headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=7

I also wear these when i can remember.
-20db
Went to good vibes and was so damn glad i wore them... no ringing and quite comfortable to wear, i forgot i was wearing them.

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Post by flippo » Thu May 03, 2007 12:39 am

I'm so fucking deaf when there is background noise. It must be so fucking annoying having to repeat everything to me 8 times.

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Post by marcus » Fri May 04, 2007 12:29 am

FoundationStepper wrote:
marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.


have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?


Yep. Greater quality in terms of sound, more confortable, and it is a correct fit for your ear. I think it is also easy to justify the expense, considering you only get one set of ears. Quite easy to claim health insurance, and also on tax if you are in noisy environments as part of work.
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Post by deviant » Fri May 04, 2007 12:42 am

I got the molds taken today. They get here next week. I ordered the -25db ones. If I can't mix with them I can get the -15db attenuators and interchange them.

$293 though :(

worth it. As Marcus said, you only have one set of ears.

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Post by FoundationStepper » Fri May 04, 2007 8:41 am

marcus wrote:
FoundationStepper wrote:
marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.


have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?


Yep. Greater quality in terms of sound, more confortable, and it is a correct fit for your ear. I think it is also easy to justify the expense, considering you only get one set of ears. Quite easy to claim health insurance, and also on tax if you are in noisy environments as part of work.


i guess it depends on how often you are out... although i initially looked into it, im not at enough loud gigs (as punter or dj) to justify...

and reducing time exposure and improving location also make a significant difference...

still we are talking about a 10fold increase in cost, so id hope the soundquailty differences are substantial

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Post by C.I.A. » Fri May 04, 2007 10:23 am

deviant wrote:I got the molds taken today. They get here next week. I ordered the -25db ones. If I can't mix with them I can get the -15db attenuators and interchange them.

$293 though :(

worth it. As Marcus said, you only have one set of ears.


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Post by Baby Ruth » Fri May 04, 2007 6:11 pm

http://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/th ... dvice.html

an interesting addition to the earplugs maybe?


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Post by Lizkins » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:22 pm

ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm

pity about the price, but its cheaper than my last operation which was around 12k

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Post by Fents » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:25 pm

what did you say liz?

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Post by fooishbar » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:29 pm

Lizkins wrote:ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm

sorry, but i just can't take that site seriously.

look me in the eye and tell me you didn't laugh when you saw 'in the ear'.

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Post by Lizkins » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:30 pm

What??? huh? you say something? oh, you didn't? oh, okay.

what?

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Post by Lizkins » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:31 pm

fooishbar wrote:
Lizkins wrote:ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm

sorry, but i just can't take that site seriously.

look me in the eye and tell me you didn't laugh when you saw 'in the ear'.



lol i actually tried to find other sites. i has a pamphlet which is way better. All the sites are odd

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Post by deviant » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:46 pm

update: ear plugs, best thing I even bought. Mixing with them is fine too, great even :)

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Post by Lil MiSbreaks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:50 pm

Yeah, ive gotta get on it. Like now.

Twice now, my left ear has all of a sudden started this piercing noise, and gone deaf at the same time. Just squeals for about ten seconds and then stops.

Shitting myself. Dad has tinitis.

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Post by system » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:49 pm

yeah, that reminds me too. need a new pair. grandma has chronic tinnitus.
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