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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:24 pm
by deviant
I need some of these bad...

can someone post the phone number of a clinic in the city? ringing is now my closest friend, even when I haven't been out :(

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:28 pm
by mrj
dude, that aint cool, sort that out pronto or you will really regret it.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:41 pm
by Stray
what?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:47 pm
by deviant
yeah, I know... having trouble finding a clinic in the CBD or near by

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:56 pm
by FoundationStepper
i look after my ears well good

but despite this i have otosclerosis which means i could go deaf anyway

sucks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:10 pm
by deviant
I used to be really dilligent with my hearing between the ages of 17 and 21.... then somewhere along the line I just stopped being carefull :?

so that's a good 7 years of punishment

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:25 pm
by deviant
FoundationStepper wrote:i look after my ears well good

but despite this i have otosclerosis which means i could go deaf anyway

sucks
so, which ear plugs do you recommend?

-15db or -25db?

I'm not sure which I need. -25db seema safer (preferable) but it may not be nessecary

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:29 pm
by C.I.A.
I've got the -15 and they are fine. I've used them since I was 18. That's quite a few years playing live music/rehearsing and now I use them for clubs.

I had my hearing tested and I'm still within the normal range.

Vote 1 -15!!

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:36 pm
by Scholtzy
I got the -25dB ones

They seem to work fine, no more ringing when you leave the club....even after 6 hours or so.

Even though it cuts heaps of volume out your ears get used to the low volume and it seems loud anyway.

I haven't djed with them yet tho, been putting it off. I reckon -15db would be the better choice if you want it solely for mixing.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:43 pm
by Fents
i could never mix with my -25 ones. keir does it all the time but i just couldnt get my head/ears round it. perfect for bad soundsystems tho.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:59 pm
by dust
I've got the -15dB ones and they are great. Fine for listening and mixing. It took a bit of getting used to mixing with them, but now i think its better. just turn up the monitors.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:14 pm
by deviant
hmmm

maybe I should get both? -15db for mixing...

-25db for general club listening

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:16 pm
by Scholtzy
$$$!

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:58 pm
by unsoundbwoy
hearoz work fine for me $30 or $35 from allans in the city

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:12 pm
by FoundationStepper
agree

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:28 pm
by deviant
my ear canal is quite narrow, I've always found those cheap ones to be VERY uncomfortable.

no I'm definitely not minted. But I've been worried about my hearing lately and also want to be able to keep DJing regularly. permanent damage to ears vs money? I think you know the answer to that one.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:38 pm
by unsoundbwoy
i cant even use bud earphone or anything like that but didn't have troubles with the hearoz after the second or third wear. the rubber softens up a fair bit.
but of course the $200 pair will be more comfortable and work better.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:58 pm
by deviant
I def getting the $200 ones, it's just a choice of -15 or -25

-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:09 pm
by Dark Lord Piddle Bottom
edit head not working -

-25 front of house -15 djing

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:09 pm
by dust
deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting
Mathmatical genius.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:18 pm
by FoundationStepper
if considering standard thoughts on hearing damage over time in noisy environments, one can look to workplace safety laws.

the basic recommendation is that you have have an average of 85dBA for up to 8 hours a day regulalrly. above this level/duration ratio you may experince hearing loss.

based on thisestimation...

a result of 95dBA means you can safely have up to about 45 minutes of exposure without any hearing damage, notwithstanding any peak sound pressures above this (or extreme low frequencies)

a result of 85dBA means you can safely have up to 8 hours of exposure. (its exponential)

that said, you arent in these environments every day or anything so this is probably being a little frugal.

personally id get the -15 dB ones and still be careful in where i stand and for how long

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:20 pm
by FoundationStepper
which is of course based on

log10*(8/t)

where t = the amount of time you will be exposed for

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:21 pm
by mrj
deviant wrote:my ear canal is quite narrow, I've always found those cheap ones to be VERY uncomfortable.

no I'm definitely not minted. But I've been worried about my hearing lately and also want to be able to keep DJing regularly. permanent damage to ears vs money? I think you know the answer to that one.
Apple Strudel?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:23 pm
by huge

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:24 pm
by FoundationStepper
same sorta thing i use

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:32 pm
by Dark Lord Piddle Bottom
huge wrote:i use these and they rock!!
You might want to try a larger size to stop the rocking, im sure it must get annoying?!

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:35 pm
by huge
are you saying my ears are abnormally large?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:52 pm
by deviant
dust wrote:
deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting
Mathmatical genius.
:teef:

I was thinking out loud about 95db exposure if you must know :P

Foundation stepper on the other hand seams like he might be a bit of a mathematical genius ;)

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:56 pm
by dust
deviant wrote:
dust wrote:
deviant wrote:-15 should reduce the average 110db system to around 95db..... hmmmmm interesting
Mathmatical genius.
:teef:

I was thinking out loud about 95db exposure if you must know :P

Foundation stepper on the other hand seams like he might be a bit of a mathematical genius ;)
Sorry. You know i can't resist a shit stir.

:wink:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:01 am
by a1studmuffin
FoundationStepper wrote:same sorta thing i use
Same here. They fit my ear pretty well fortunately and help out a lot. I find the clubs in the UK tend to play a lot louder too, which is what made me buy some.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:23 am
by marcus
I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:25 am
by FoundationStepper
marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.
have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:35 am
by Flash
[quote="huge"]i use these and they rock!!

http://www.headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=7

I also wear these when i can remember.
-20db
Went to good vibes and was so damn glad i wore them... no ringing and quite comfortable to wear, i forgot i was wearing them.

Image
clear ones ftw tho, it can look silly with colours!

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:39 am
by flippo
I'm so fucking deaf when there is background noise. It must be so fucking annoying having to repeat everything to me 8 times.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:29 am
by marcus
FoundationStepper wrote:
marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.
have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?
Yep. Greater quality in terms of sound, more confortable, and it is a correct fit for your ear. I think it is also easy to justify the expense, considering you only get one set of ears. Quite easy to claim health insurance, and also on tax if you are in noisy environments as part of work.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:42 am
by deviant
I got the molds taken today. They get here next week. I ordered the -25db ones. If I can't mix with them I can get the -15db attenuators and interchange them.

$293 though :(

worth it. As Marcus said, you only have one set of ears.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:41 am
by FoundationStepper
marcus wrote:
FoundationStepper wrote:
marcus wrote:I use 25dB ones. I find them horrible to mix with, but absolutely great when in a clubI made the mistake of forgetting them in a recent visit to a perth club - i paid for it dearly over the next few days. Also you can hear people actually speaking to you. Don't go cheap - buy good ones.
have you actually compared?

diminishing returns?
Yep. Greater quality in terms of sound, more confortable, and it is a correct fit for your ear. I think it is also easy to justify the expense, considering you only get one set of ears. Quite easy to claim health insurance, and also on tax if you are in noisy environments as part of work.
i guess it depends on how often you are out... although i initially looked into it, im not at enough loud gigs (as punter or dj) to justify...

and reducing time exposure and improving location also make a significant difference...

still we are talking about a 10fold increase in cost, so id hope the soundquailty differences are substantial

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:23 am
by C.I.A.
deviant wrote:I got the molds taken today. They get here next week. I ordered the -25db ones. If I can't mix with them I can get the -15db attenuators and interchange them.

$293 though :(

worth it. As Marcus said, you only have one set of ears.
Inflation :shock:

Mine were $180

I'm still trying to blank out the memory of having warm latex injected into my ear canal.

:wrongtown:

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:11 pm
by Baby Ruth
http://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/th ... dvice.html

an interesting addition to the earplugs maybe?

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:50 pm
by deviant

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:22 pm
by Lizkins
ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm

pity about the price, but its cheaper than my last operation which was around 12k

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:25 pm
by Fents
what did you say liz?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:29 pm
by fooishbar
Lizkins wrote:ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm
sorry, but i just can't take that site seriously.

look me in the eye and tell me you didn't laugh when you saw 'in the ear'.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:30 pm
by Lizkins
What??? huh? you say something? oh, you didn't? oh, okay.

what?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:31 pm
by Lizkins
fooishbar wrote:
Lizkins wrote:ohhh very excited about this, i will need a hearing aid eventually. And now they are even smaller and better.

http://www.sonici.com.au/products/details.cfm
sorry, but i just can't take that site seriously.

look me in the eye and tell me you didn't laugh when you saw 'in the ear'.

lol i actually tried to find other sites. i has a pamphlet which is way better. All the sites are odd

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:46 pm
by deviant
update: ear plugs, best thing I even bought. Mixing with them is fine too, great even :)

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:50 pm
by Lil MiSbreaks
Yeah, ive gotta get on it. Like now.

Twice now, my left ear has all of a sudden started this piercing noise, and gone deaf at the same time. Just squeals for about ten seconds and then stops.

Shitting myself. Dad has tinitis.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:49 pm
by system
yeah, that reminds me too. need a new pair. grandma has chronic tinnitus.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:42 pm
by mixtress
Is tinnitus hereditary or somfink?

I get these fabulous noises in my ears that sounds like tracing paper being scrunched, and the pressure changes on me all the time. Is that normal? :shock:

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:47 pm
by nic
brain damage?