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haha, grats
im back where i was just before the correction. its been a wild few months though.

reckon we're in for much more volatility this year?
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bloody hope not!
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i wish i had some spare coin. i would have made up heaps of ground in the last couple of weeks.
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spill the beans S!

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sneaky hands wrote:haha, grats
im back where i was just before the correction. its been a wild few months though.

reckon we're in for much more volatility this year?
That's a hellz yeah as far as I'm concerned.

Australian debt is skyrocketing at rates that are reminiscent of the pre-crash 80s.

Helloooo recession in not-too-distant future; both in the States and also here.
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your radar. let me fly under it.
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lol, yeah I'm back in the green finally as well. still a bit nervous though lol. ah well its not like I've got my house riding on it. mainly because I don't own a house.

looking forward to some good announcements on Monday though.

someone may or may not be able to answer this one, its for anyone who follows the market forums closely, whats your opinion on t4p? genuine knowledge sharer or very very clever ramper? I'm still undecided, haven't been following his (or her) movements closely enough for long enough to decide.
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t4p is a lollybanging tranny ramper believe

don't trust him/her
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lol, smartass gnatty. ROFL at Lollybanger. Thats so catching on. Prob needs to go in the made up words thread eh eh!
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t4p sounds like a anti retroviral medication

shares haz da aidz
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in for a nasty one today
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huge wrote:in for a nasty one today
Please let the aussie dollar lose some strength against the greenback.

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huge wrote:in for a nasty one today
ASX down 1.92% today. Not bad considering DOW down 2.64% Friday.
Always amazes me how NY want to do equity and fx trades late Friday
in very illiquid markets.

Credit issues in Europe tonight sees the Euro down 2 cents at 21:30
Aussie tracked the Euro down 1.5 cents, but now rallying nicely with some good support levels at .8800 and .8850.

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damn, I was gonna do that, then forgot about it.

probably just as well, don't need the reality check of how little i know lololol
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What are peoples thoughts on this report >>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 05908.html

talks of a Crash coming that hasnt yet been fully realised in American market. Im a little nervous to say the least.
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nhd wrote:What are peoples thoughts on this report >>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 05908.html

talks of a Crash coming that hasnt yet been fully realised in American market. Im a little nervous to say the least.

have heard people mentioning a crash more and more. its inevitable for the economy or some such.
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i'm an accountant... i think i know a little about $$$ and stufff

stocks are good if kept well... like a nice clean set of sheets for your bed... mmm... soft AND fresh
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nhd wrote:What are peoples thoughts on this report >>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 05908.html

talks of a Crash coming that hasnt yet been fully realised in American market. Im a little nervous to say the least.
in my opinion its kind of true, but kind of a beat-up. The Age seems to love these serious stories about how we're all doomed.
a few banks like Merrill Lynch and Citigroup are still suffering from sub prime fallout, and american consumers are the least confident for quite some time, which will impact retailing over there. plus oil is expensive and their dollar is fucked which raises the price of imports for them.
im not in australia but from the outside looking in it seems like the biggest problem at the moment is inflation. Big drops in supply of food pushing prices up, and the stupid house price increases.
The market is ridiculously high compared to this time last year and you might see some pull back, but unless you're a noob and just got into the market recently (unwise to be buying at record index levels in the first place) you wont have all your gains wiped out.
Basically, if you have been playing the market for a year or so and feeling like its all too easy, you might be in for a rude shock. If you have your money responsibly invested, and a decent job, and aren't up to your neck in debt to the point where you cant sustain a couple % increase in interest rates, any economic downturn in the medium term will not impact you too hard.
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it's shitting its self today
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as we all know the aussie dollar is strong against the US atm...

good time to sign up to etrade.com and buy some US stocks.


just purchased some in Pfizer.


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mrj wrote:lol, yeah I'm back in the green finally as well. still a bit nervous though lol. ah well its not like I've got my house riding on it. mainly because I don't own a house.

looking forward to some good announcements on Monday though.

someone may or may not be able to answer this one, its for anyone who follows the market forums closely, whats your opinion on t4p? genuine knowledge sharer or very very clever ramper? I'm still undecided, haven't been following his (or her) movements closely enough for long enough to decide.
i always buy in australian foundation, telstra, csr and bhp.
this is because it dont matter really if there share prices go up or down..
as they are for long term investments and all my divedends go into buying more shares..
if your going for short term gains though i would not have a clue..
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C.I.A. wrote:Please let the aussie dollar lose some strength against the greenback.
Oy! Not when I'm buying equipment from overseas, thank you very much.
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fucken stock market lol.
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why u say that huge ?

the ALL ORDS is up today.
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ahh just a silly decision by me. huhu.

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yeah know what you mean.

my latest bad decision was Zinifex, they aint doing to well as of late. :?
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jeebus they arent are they.

they were once the big thing!

i just screwed up on AKK.

panicked a bit. will see what happens after today.
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my shares in geo dynamics just keep going up..
wish i could have bought more at the time..
heheh bought em before origin energy bought half of em or what ever..
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Lós Kasino— wrote:as we all know the aussie dollar is strong against the US atm...

good time to sign up to etrade.com and buy some US stocks.


just purchased some in Pfizer.


:smt045
I don't understand this point.

Why would US currency weakness be a reason to invest in US stocks? Surely the US currency weakness is endemic of wider US economy woes.

Aren't you only adding currency risk into the equation (which at the moment is severe with the Fed cutting rates willy nilly).

I can see that repatriating funds and working off the exchange rate is the premise, but wouldn't it work against in this case.

From my perspective equities isn't the best place to be at the moment (lots of uncertainty), and US equities especially.

I must be missing something here, because I don't get it. Someone please explain this to me in terms that my simple brain will understand.
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You givum heap big gold.

Them slapslap thum heap heap bigger back to youum.
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did anyone get lonely planet shares before the sell to bbc?
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yenks wrote:yeah know what you mean.

my latest bad decision was Zinifex, they aint doing to well as of late. :?
True...but a .70c div isn't a bad return for a stock that's only $14.51
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mrj wrote:
Lós Kasino— wrote:as we all know the aussie dollar is strong against the US atm...

good time to sign up to etrade.com and buy some US stocks.


just purchased some in Pfizer.


:smt045
I don't understand this point.

Why would US currency weakness be a reason to invest in US stocks? Surely the US currency weakness is endemic of wider US economy woes.

Aren't you only adding currency risk into the equation (which at the moment is severe with the Fed cutting rates willy nilly).

I can see that repatriating funds and working off the exchange rate is the premise, but wouldn't it work against in this case.

From my perspective equities isn't the best place to be at the moment (lots of uncertainty), and US equities especially.

I must be missing something here, because I don't get it. Someone please explain this to me in terms that my simple brain will understand.
Josh is onto something here.
Prob not the best time to invest in Financial's in the US.
Other sectors such as agriculture aren't looking too bad though...especially those supplying "China".
I guess Los Kas could hedge against the fx risk, then the only factor is the fwd rate which is pretty stable(-44 basis points for 3 months atm)
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Bottom Line if you're not making money in the market this year then the market is not for you. We're killing it this year and bonuses are going to be off the scale for financial institutions...Even though we lost 18 Billion due to large exposure to the American sub prime crisis. :)
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you got any jobs going at ML ?

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Not after losing 8 Billion in one quarter mate ( Not 18 but still seriously bad)...Plenty of people getting the arse though :)
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aaarrrrgghhhh 3% crash

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I had a heads up on the Centro thing but couldn't comment.

Fucking insider trading.
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tell me insider info* pls kronz. i wont tell

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lol huge you shark
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Got to wait & see how yesterday and todays stock falls impact on my managed fund :(
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Loving the recession.

Bring it.

:)

Lolz at the US trying to plug up a sinking ship with drowned rats. You guys should probably have done some work during the semester, not just cram the day before an exam. Then you wouldn't be so likely to FAIL.
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