dubstep from the biased eyes of a drum and bass addict

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:19 pm

i LOVE anal music

Scholtzy · Post by **Scholtzy** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:19 pm

lol @ "huge compliment"

....do you really think producers make tunes to satisfy your tastes?

Ranking genres is nonsense too.

@ Flippo

nic · Post by **nic** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:23 pm

new thread? rank all genres - teh definitive list

people might like to use my template for good taste

1. breaks
2. dubstep / hiphop / dnb / house
3. ^
4. ^
5. ^

Post by **fooishbar** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:45 pm

1) donk
2) wonk
3) bonk
4) dr. sponk
5) fonk (new genre of funky/donk, keep an eye on this one)

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:58 pm

fooishbar wrote:1) donk
2) wonk
3) bonk
4) dr. sponk
5) fonk (new genre of funky/donk, keep an eye on this one)

Fonk is the fucking business. It makes The Beatles look like crap.

same o · Post by **same o** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:48 pm

i recon 100bpm dubstep would be pretty shit tbh...

tee193 · Post by **tee193** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:34 am

donk is bigger than the beatles havnt you heard those musically educated women at the pier donk raving, gosh!

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:40 am

yes yes
WIGAN PIER
SPIRITUAL HOMEMLADN OF DONK1

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:47 am

same o wrote:i recon 100bpm dubstep would be pretty shit tbh...

agreed.

as would 60bpm. 70bpm. 80bpm. 90bpm...ad infinitum.

Post by **fooishbar** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:54 am

i thought dubstep was 69/70bpm

kick

BOSH

kick

BOSH

L-J · Post by **L-J** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:58 am

Dubstep arguements are so boring.

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:00 pm

not to mention futile.

aroes · Post by **aroes** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:12 pm

are not!

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:17 pm

breaks is dying

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:21 pm

L-J wrote:Dubstep arguements are so boring.

duck arguments are the one tho..

check trigga finger sounds like to robotic ducks fighting.

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:24 pm

lolz. teh benypage one?
i like that.

argument · Post by **argument** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:36 pm

L-J wrote:Dubstep arguements are so boring.

I'm afraid they are not.

L-J · Post by **L-J** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:38 pm

argument wrote:
L-J wrote:Dubstep arguements are so boring.
I'm afraid they are not.

Yes you are

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:42 pm

i like music.

argument · Post by **argument** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:59 pm

L-J wrote:
argument wrote:
L-J wrote:Dubstep arguements are so boring.
I'm afraid they are not.
Yes you are

No I'm not!

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:03 pm

who is a Dubstep?

Post by **fooishbar** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:22 pm

cue guevara: it's revolutionary.

skiba · Post by **skiba** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:07 pm

dubstep getting played out on main stages at festivals would suck..
but as for dubstep taking over, what are you people on? drum&bass and dubstep are 2 different styles of music..

but for all those who were at wobble last saturday night would know how well these styles go together..

but thats just my 2 cents on the topic..

ulyssian · Post by **ulyssian** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:11 pm

DEGENERATI0N wrote:...when dubstep first hit the scene i hated it because it was all smokers delight and boring but now it has developed this colossal mutating tech doom filth aspect and even though i dont feel it will ever surpass dnb in any way shape or form it has definitely secured itself as "second best" in my books, ...

First few times I thought it was an absolute wank with people swaying and nodding their heads (first Benga gig)... but it seems that with time, (attempted) understanding, more exposure and more experimentation... it's building - more energy, bigger crowds and more interest from ppl.

From what I have seen, the dance floor is definitely displaying more energy now with more attitude. It's energy will not surpass a DnB crowd (IMO). I honestly feel like I have been ganked walking through a dubstep dance floor as opposed to a DnB floor (starkey). But in saying that... B & S @ Hi Fi surpassed everyone's expectations and was pretty f*ckn fun.
DnB used to promote dubstep, but having dubstep on the bill is now a win and having both together is a double win (IMO again)
I guess it's all evolution..... and just more of it... so DnB heads feel a little 'threatened' (maybe for lack of a better word) that DnB will die or DnB djs & producers won't have as much work... and us poor lil punters will have to go to dubstep gigs (

)
As long as there is bass... then all will be ok I guess

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:32 pm

nic wrote:lolz. teh benypage one?
i like that.

yer is a mad tune, but it sounds like two robotic ducks having a fight

tee193 · Post by **tee193** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:01 pm

no more dnb? only dubstep...

ill go hear the bass at oneloves then.lul

Flash · Post by **Flash** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:25 am

same o wrote:
nic wrote:lolz. teh benypage one?
i like that.

yer is a mad tune, but it sounds like two robotic ducks having a fight

bonsai · Post by **bonsai** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:15 pm

i clearly said -100bpm

minus 100 bpm from AVERAGE dnb tempo = 70-80 bpm... wow !

must say - i am enjoying n-type's rinse fm podcasts. one funny boy.. n-type trolley snatcher!

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:21 pm

bonsai wrote:i clearly said -100bpm

minus 100 bpm from AVERAGE dnb tempo = 70-80 bpm... wow !

must say - i am enjoying n-type's rinse fm podcasts. one funny boy.. n-type trolley snatcher!

dubstep 140......

bonsai · Post by **bonsai** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:26 pm

conflicting mathematix eh!
could dubstep be posssibly counted at two different bpm sets?

I've been busy listening to numerous podcasts to educate myself on this topic. Mainly due to the majority of responses here being directed personally at me, rather than assisting my search or adding something interesting to the discussion.. i do retract my statement about dubstep using recycled dnb sounds.. there are definitely a lot of ingenious and inventive sounds used in a lot of productions i've listened to in the last week or so which has made me reconsider.

out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

on tour · Post by **on tour** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:21 pm

chubstep... it's the new black.

skiba · Post by **skiba** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:46 pm

lolz someone needs a hug =P

DEGENERATI0N · Post by **DEGENERATI0N** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:52 pm

Scholtzy wrote:lol @ "huge compliment"

....do you really think producers make tunes to satisfy your tastes?

@ Flippo

pick one of the following:

A: No, not really this isnt vh1.

B: Yes of course they do, well thats what my mom tells me anyway.

Scholtzy · Post by **Scholtzy** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:30 pm

DEGENERATI0N wrote:
Scholtzy wrote:lol @ "huge compliment"

....do you really think producers make tunes to satisfy your tastes?

Ranking genres is nonsense too.

@ Flippo
pick one of the following:

A: No only a total goober would think that, this isnt vh1.

B: Yes of course they do, im also the reason that life on earth exists so go tell your mum.

Ok, well I'll go with A.

I just fail to see how your positioning of dubstep as "second best" under dnb is a "huge compliment".

What I was getting at is;

Your taste in music is relevant only to yourself.

DEGENERATI0N · Post by **DEGENERATI0N** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:45 pm

that is true, ive revised my choices as entertainment only relevant to myself and you may have noted that it was in "my book" and not in ''your book"

i hated dubstep, now i like it. theres the compliment its not rocket science and i dont want to give any kind of impression that i somehow think my opinion matters to anybody.

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:02 pm

bonsai wrote: I've been busy listening to numerous podcasts to educate myself on this topic. Mainly due to the majority of responses here being directed personally at me, rather than assisting my search or adding something interesting to the discussion.. i do retract my statement about dubstep using recycled dnb sounds.. there are definitely a lot of ingenious and inventive sounds used in a lot of productions i've listened to in the last week or so which has made me reconsider.

out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

bonsai wrote:many people here know my opinion of dubstep. its not personal, purely provocative.

i support, appreciate and respect artists that use original ideas and intuitive production techniques.

dubstep djs, producers and fans seem to believe that it will take over dnb/jungle, but it is in fact a completely different genre, with neither the technicality nor anywhere NEAR as much dancefloor energy.

the sounds used in dubstep tunes are dnb/jungle samples and synths. who honestly wants to hear the same sounds we've heard for 15 years, recycled at -100bpm.

in my opinion I believe dubstep, as a genre, uses Drum and Bass as a promotional tool. eg. dnb forums, myspace and dnb gigs/flyers.

dubstep is passe

u never asked for direction in what to listen to man..

u made a statement, and people lol'd

and Degeneration, ur wasteman.. lolz

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:40 pm

bonsai wrote:
out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

wtf does this have to do with anything? At no point has anyone given the impression that posting here makes them above others.

And for the record, half the people that posted in this thread DO make tunes and throw parties.

mecka · Post by **mecka** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:08 pm

bonsai wrote:out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

rofl. pretty much all the people who've posted in this thread contribute directly to the 'scene' whether or not they promote play or create tunes.

ps. nobody really gives a fuck about postcount and believing that anybody does is a fucking tosser attitude. grasping at straws much?

As far as dubstep goes... I'm a dyed-in-the-wool dnb head, have been for many years and I definitely do not like dubstep. For me its a matter of energy... i don't feel the same energy in dubstep as I do with dnb. A lot of it seems really flat and lifeless. I'm not a producer so I don't appreciate the subtle technical aspects.

From my eyes it looks like dubstep is very much the sound of 'now' just as dnb was 7 or 8 years ago. Fact of the matter is that dnb is fading away and there were always going to be other forms of music to take its place. Not every fan of dnb is going to appreciate the new stuff.

Each to their own though.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:19 pm

bonsai wrote:
out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

not being a prik but...

most of the breaks guys posting in this thread at least DJ and probably produce too.
Foundation and engine been doing their thing for ages.
Fooishbar promotes and DJ's - spends his hard earned cash cutting dubs even.
Same'O promtes and DJ's and does a radio show.
I've seen Hardy smash the Hi-Fi back in the day.
Flash has been producing for ages and has a tune out and more to come in comming months.
L-J DJ's regularly, and does a weekly radio show.
Cammo has been promoting dubstep since day one back in 06 + played in syd.
Spherix has tunes on wax and bare tunes to come this year. Played Syd, Adelaide + NZ.
I've got tunes on wax, I started a label (left now, but still), played interstate and festivals etc
Spin does about 500 parties a month of various genres.
Deviant hasn't even had time for a haircut since he started DJ'ing he's been that hard on it.
on tour (Lex), you'd know if you were into DnB I'm guessing.
argument pretty much founded dance music in Australia, get to know.
cbf'ed digging up the bio's of every cunt in the thread but ya get my point...

so........ who are you refering too exactly? Come on name names I want drama!

even if a clown had never opened a sequencer, put on a party or dropped a needle, they would still think the whole premise of your thread was bare lolz and would feel an itch to respond. Even if for just a brief WTF.

So anyways, what else is going on then? spill the beanz etc. Do you think House is going to make a move to overthrow breakcore? I've been fucking worried about this for time because house blatantly uses Bacardi breezers to promote itself, and I'm more of a beer and heroin man personaly.

</caffine fueled soft-trolling for teh lulz>

mecka · Post by **mecka** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:25 pm

omfg massive lulz.

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:34 pm

hahah, i love you dave

BIG IN THE GAME

bonsai · Post by **bonsai** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:29 am

flippo wrote:
bonsai wrote:
out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

not being a prik but...

most of the breaks guys posting in this thread at least DJ and probably produce too.
Foundation and engine been doing their thing for ages.
Fooishbar promotes and DJ's - spends his hard earned cash cutting dubs even.
Same'O promtes and DJ's and does a radio show.
I've seen Hardy smash the Hi-Fi back in the day.
Flash has been producing for ages and has a tune out and more to come in comming months.
L-J DJ's regularly, and does a weekly radio show.
Cammo has been promoting dubstep since day one back in 06 + played in syd.
Spherix has tunes on wax and bare tunes to come this year. Played Syd, Adelaide + NZ.
I've got tunes on wax, I started a label (left now, but still), played interstate and festivals etc
Spin does about 500 parties a month of various genres.
Deviant hasn't even had time for a haircut since he started DJ'ing he's been that hard on it.
on tour (Lex), you'd know if you were into DnB I'm guessing.
argument pretty much founded dance music in Australia, get to know.
cbf'ed digging up the bio's of every cunt in the thread but ya get my point...

so........ who are you refering too exactly? Come on name names I want drama!

even if a clown had never opened a sequencer, put on a party or dropped a needle, they would still think the whole premise of your thread was bare lolz and would feel an itch to respond. Even if for just a brief WTF.

So anyways, what else is going on then? spill the beanz etc. Do you think House is going to make a move to overthrow breakcore? I've been fucking worried about this for time because house blatantly uses Bacardi breezers to promote itself, and I'm more of a beer and heroin man personaly.

</caffine fueled soft-trolling for teh lulz>

this is the best response to my trolling i have seen anywhere ever

i surrender to you

until i think of another topic.

Spherix · Post by **Spherix** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:57 pm

epic japes

nic · Post by **nic** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:00 pm

is it over allready

spin · Post by **spin** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:15 pm

next...

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:17 pm

flippo wrote:
bonsai wrote:
out to all the forum geeks here, that consider posting on this forum is a worthy contribution to the Melbourne dnb & dubstep scene, and who consider their themselves above the rest because of their post count due to sitting on here posting garbage in most threads... why dont you get out there and throw a party, release some tunes or at least do something recognisable. fucking tosser attitude.

not being a prik but...

most of the breaks guys posting in this thread at least DJ and probably produce too.
Foundation and engine been doing their thing for ages.
Fooishbar promotes and DJ's - spends his hard earned cash cutting dubs even.
Same'O promtes and DJ's and does a radio show.
I've seen Hardy smash the Hi-Fi back in the day.
Flash has been producing for ages and has a tune out and more to come in comming months.
L-J DJ's regularly, and does a weekly radio show.
Cammo has been promoting dubstep since day one back in 06 + played in syd.
Spherix has tunes on wax and bare tunes to come this year. Played Syd, Adelaide + NZ.
I've got tunes on wax, I started a label (left now, but still), played interstate and festivals etc
Spin does about 500 parties a month of various genres.
Deviant hasn't even had time for a haircut since he started DJ'ing he's been that hard on it.
on tour (Lex), you'd know if you were into DnB I'm guessing.
argument pretty much founded dance music in Australia, get to know.
cbf'ed digging up the bio's of every cunt in the thread but ya get my point...

so........ who are you refering too exactly? Come on name names I want drama!

even if a clown had never opened a sequencer, put on a party or dropped a needle, they would still think the whole premise of your thread was bare lolz and would feel an itch to respond. Even if for just a brief WTF.

So anyways, what else is going on then? spill the beanz etc. Do you think House is going to make a move to overthrow breakcore? I've been fucking worried about this for time because house blatantly uses Bacardi breezers to promote itself, and I'm more of a beer and heroin man personaly.

</caffine fueled soft-trolling for teh lulz>

fuckin LOL

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:33 pm

I wanna lol.... but I'm sick of cunts teasing me for my hair cut, or lack there of......

fucken jealous innit