I still dont really see your point. I often go to my friends gigs to support them, even if the music isnt nessecarily 100% up my alley. I have no idea why you would think that people supporitng their friends/peers events would be deconstructive, are you from Melbourne? Perhaps in a smaller place it may be like that, I spent some time in Adelaide and it was clicky as all hell in certain scenes, but I dont see the problem in too many people supporting your gigs, whether you know them or not, as long as the venues have the capacity to hold them.HearNoEvil wrote: I'm sorry. We thought you meant in a kind of "we go to yours if you come to ours" kind of way. Going to gigs of people you dont know is great but, I think alot of local gigs are starving for an audience and I see alot of people kind of make, promotion pacts with eachother.
I think those kind of "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" scenarios are deconstructive. But yeah, just going to a gig to see what new local talent is up to is always good. I'm sorry I just miss understood you.
Your comments sound like they are directed at a specific group of people or certain crews, not the bigger picture, so ill just leave it at that for now, becasue the rest of this thread has been very constructive.
funkyj - some interesting comments. re writing for street press, i know it must be frustrating, imo its the same as arts funding or the festival circuit, you knock and knock and knock at the door and unless you know the right people, and your in the right place, right time, you dont even get a toe in the door. then once you do, your in the circle and its much easier after that. tbh my dealing s with most street press makes me NOT want to write for them. And most of the good writers/editors move on reasonably quickly to other things.
re direct advertsing and TV- personally when i see any music events marketed on TV my first reaction is 'SELL OUT SCHLOCK" because only the massive events like Sensation have the budget to do so. How would you want to be more direct marketed at for music stuff, do you think FB is that?
I get tired of irrelevant stuff too, there should be a promoter help page so people can be shown how to make lists of their friends to invite to specific stuff ( I have one for art and one for music, with some crossover), how tagging can lessen some spamming, how its not really cool to tag people in flyers who arent playing or have nothing to do with the event blah blah.
I reckon i could write a How To guide or Do's and Dont's stating ettiquete rules for FB promotions.
alex phonetics - i find your point interesting, because hand hand to hand promotions are currently the MOST effective way for pretty much all gigs at Libertine. Maybe your flyers arent exciting enough, maybe you are giving them to people at the wrong moments (like as they walk out of a gig trashed) but for the money you spend on them, i feel they are very effective.
dunno, but agree that A0's are too expensive for what they do.