2am Lockouts

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:27 pm

But mrj, we're not talking about clubs FINISHING at 2am, just not letting more people in after 2am.

But even still, as deviant says, inevitably after 2am more and more people end up on the street because some of their mates didn't get in or whatever... the only thing that would fix it would be a bigger police presence, but that would fix it without the lockouts anyway.

autumnleaves · Post by **autumnleaves** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:30 pm

I don't want to have to deal with a streetload of drunken wankers when leaving a venue. That puts me as a passive citizen in more risk I would say, at least when in venues they are under the watch of bouncers.

The floor of Crown Casino, restaurants and clubs such as RSL clubs will be exempt from the lockout restriction.

Lame..

misunderstanding. THere is no pass outs at Revolver after 2am.

Ah.. that makes sense.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:31 pm

oh right.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeah. its ghey.

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:32 pm

I swear John Brumby will die like Mussolini: hung from a lamp post and shot.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:32 pm

Why will we get decent start times again?

If anything it'll push all starting times to 2am

ulyssian · Post by **ulyssian** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:34 pm

Brumby sucks.... how did he get in really god damn it... sure I didn't vote for him!
2am lock outs suck.... well I have only had a 3am lock out... got there at 3.04 and had to stand out on the streets of Shep with all the other angry trashies that had no where to go.

autumnleaves · Post by **autumnleaves** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:35 pm

jbs wrote:Why will we get decent start times again?

If anything it'll push all starting times to 2am

That's a good point. It will mean maximum profits for a venue that has a late license and puts on dance parties. ie. if you start a gig earlier, it finishes early and it's less likely that people will hang out afterwards as lots of people usually leave after main act. thus if you start the main act later, people usually arrive, drink for a while and also stay for the main act. so you get maximum drinking time in your venue.

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:35 pm

Bracksy bailed and left that fucknose in charge.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:38 pm

autumnleaves wrote:
jbs wrote:Why will we get decent start times again?

If anything it'll push all starting times to 2am
That's a good point. It will mean maximum profits for a venue that has a late license and puts on dance parties. ie. if you start a gig earlier, it finishes early and it's less likely that people will hang out afterwards as lots of people usually leave after main act. thus if you start the main act later, people usually arrive, drink for a while and also stay for the main act. so you get maximum drinking time in your venue.

Also if the main act finishes after 2am there is no option to drink anywhere else.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:44 pm

except your own house (or bar

)

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:21 pm

this from the comments on the theage.com.au story

This is the type of regulation people from Victoria really need. There should be a curfew on the whole state - home in bed asleep by 7pm, the whole lot of you!

I lolled

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:32 pm

deviant wrote:this from the comments on the theage.com.au story

This is the type of regulation people from Victoria really need. There should be a curfew on the whole state - home in bed asleep by 7pm, the whole lot of you!
I lolled

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:44 pm

ulyssian wrote:Brumby sucks.... how did he get in really god damn it... sure I didn't vote for him!
2am lock outs suck.... well I have only had a 3am lock out... got there at 3.04 and had to stand out on the streets of Shep with all the other angry trashies that had no where to go.

Shep reprazent!

marke · Post by **marke** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:44 pm

absolutely ridiculous..imo
still to this day i have not seen a big fight in Melbourne, i know because i dont go out to those spots (russel/chapel /king etc).. why should we now have to suffer because the small group of dickheads or maybe a large group...
i dont smoke ciggarettes either!! but not being able to smoke a spliff after 2 will certainly make me aggresive..hahaa

i do agree that more violence has been occuring recently and all factors mentioned above can be taken as a possible reason... but locking people in the street after 2am will NOT solve the problem..may only increase it, well thats kind of what we would all be hoping for, no!?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:46 pm

if we can all see this why cant 'they' ?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:48 pm

yes,

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:53 pm

Won't really affect me.

I don't smoke, and don't make a habit of hitting up fresh venues after 2am.

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:04 pm

I'll be interested to see if this reduces the human bile and carrot pieces spewing out of the clubs near my place.

Seen a glassing, a head being kicked in and what looked like an attempted rape (boy-boy). The worst one was after the bond bar brawl... 25-30 guys beneath my place, 5-6 of them kicking a prostrate dude in the head. Fuzz turned up about 15 secs later and they vamoosed.... some running to hide in nearby car-park. Was gripping viewing but would prefer to see it on idiot box not from my window every satdee.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:13 pm

king street on sunday morning = spew street

insane the amount vom around

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:17 pm

carrot sack !!!!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:20 pm

the govt may have just made me redundant with this law.

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:25 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:the govt may have just made me redundant with this law.

how so ?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:32 pm

think about it.

we may not be doin the trade soon to warrant a promotions and marketing person.

id just like to say that at least everyone here isnt all 'yeah, jsut go underground, viva la warehouse parties' like everyone on ITM.

if they knew anything they would know that aint gonna help us.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:41 pm

viva la whorehouse parties

wait....

dude.......

sorry..........

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:46 pm

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:49 pm

Facebook group against the lock ins

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:50 pm

Imagine trying to get a cab in the city just after 2am

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:57 pm

Stray wrote:Imagine trying to get a cab in the city just after 2am

it flows back too.
in briz vegas, you can't get a cab at 1am.
even tho the lockout isn't untill 3am.

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:00 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:the govt may have just made me redundant with this law.

Don't get down Kitty, we'll be right.

http://melbournebeats.com/forum/viewtop ... 631#469631

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:01 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:think about it.

we may not be doin the trade soon to warrant a promotions and marketing person.

id just like to say that at least everyone here isnt all 'yeah, jsut go underground, viva la warehouse parties' like everyone on ITM.

if they knew anything they would know that aint gonna help us.

there are still empty warehouse nr the cbd??

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:04 pm

ben > hehehe im down. or up, as it were.

spiral > where? no residents nearby? got a liquor lisence? come on.......

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:06 pm

10.15 wrote:
ghetto kitty wrote:the govt may have just made me redundant with this law.

Don't get down Kitty, we'll be right.

http://melbournebeats.com/forum/viewtop ... 631#469631

HAHA!!! nice one!

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:10 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:ben > hehehe im down. or up, as it were.

spiral > where? no residents nearby? got a liquor lisence? come on.......

Hey I've got this dumb idea:

if you had a warehouse party and people got a freedrink with entry
would you need a licence ?

what if entry was $5 and you could enter asmany times as you liked ?

is that the cutest loophole idea in history.

or just somthing they could still fist you for??

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:12 pm

youll have more trouble with residents than liquor lisencing imo.

i have many years of warehouse party experience, evey 'cute' lopphole we have done, and more.

the climate isnt the same now, and I am not willing to get thousands of dollar fines to put on events.

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:12 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:ben > hehehe im down. or up, as it were.

spiral > where? no residents nearby? got a liquor lisence? come on.......

jus wonderin if ppl are sayin vive la warehouse
where they got in mind

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:14 pm

oh sorry spiral!

they dont have anywhere in mind, hence my point. there is nowhere.

which is why ITM is dumb and MB rocks.

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:27 pm

Stray wrote:Imagine trying to get a cab in the city just after 2am

You can crash on my new furniture

Thinking about converttibel futon/sofa type things along with bean bags for upstairs gaming area.

Or should I leave xbox downstairs...

???

Also, do I go Kab or Reka for art?? Thinking Kab calligraphy stylez...

sorry.... o/t

please continue.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:30 pm

spiral wrote:
ghetto kitty wrote:think about it.

we may not be doin the trade soon to warrant a promotions and marketing person.

id just like to say that at least everyone here isnt all 'yeah, jsut go underground, viva la warehouse parties' like everyone on ITM.

if they knew anything they would know that aint gonna help us.

there are still empty warehouse nr the cbd??

there's one 3 doors down from me... (I live in La Trobe Street)

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:32 pm

We still didn't determine what time qualifies as "the next day" rather than the same night. I'm horrified at the idea that I might not be able to head to Revolver at 7am after one club finishes. I don't do it often, but I like that freedom. If I really still feel like I need to go to Revolver at 7am, seriously, dude, I REALLY NEED to go to Revolver.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:33 pm

C.I.A. wrote:You can crash on my new furniture .

gotta be better than the old furniture

:soreneck:

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:36 pm

a1studmuffin wrote:We still didn't determine what time qualifies as "the next day" rather than the same night. I'm horrified at the idea that I might not be able to head to Revolver at 7am after one club finishes. I don't do it often, but I like that freedom. If I really still feel like I need to go to Revolver at 7am, seriously, dude, I REALLY NEED to go to Revolver.

Herald Sun article seems to suggest the ban is for 5 hours from 2am.

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:42 pm

deviant wrote:
C.I.A. wrote:You can crash on my new furniture .
gotta be better than the old furniture

:soreneck:

lol

Thanks cia.. but I will be living richmond again soon!

So wasn't really thinking of myself re: taxi's.. but I feel for the common man.

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:42 pm

deviant wrote:
C.I.A. wrote:You can crash on my new furniture .
gotta be better than the old furniture

:soreneck:

Fuck your sleeping with your eyes half-open did my head in. I'm pretty sure I was including you in conversations for about half an hour while you were off with the pixies.

FunkyJ · Post by **FunkyJ** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:42 pm

They trailed this in Adelaide a few years ago and it didn't work.

Mainly because everyone goes to bed early anyway :p

Nah, all it did was make the violence go out onto the street. Instead of groups fighting groups, it was randoms getting caught up in it.

IMHO the reason there has been a rise in Melbourne is two-fold - more people coming into the city anyway - more people means more fuckwits.

And the fact that smoking is no longer available in clubs, forcing people to congregate in the one place.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:44 pm

its, like, so great that this happens at the start of winter too, dont you think?

YAY to brawls in the rain and freezing temperatures to clot the blood thats spilled!

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:46 pm

we should come up with an acurate way of assesing "fuckwitness" and put an actual curfew on these people.... like a neck band tazer that shocks them if they aren't at home by 10pm.

problem solved

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:49 pm

deviant wrote:we should come up with an acurate way of assesing "fuckwitness" and put an actual curfew on these people.... like a neck band tazer that shocks them if they aren't at home by 10pm.

problem solved

Dan 4 President

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:51 pm

deviant wrote:we should come up with an acurate way of assesing "fuckwitness" and put an actual curfew on these people.... like a neck band tazer that shocks them if they aren't at home by 10pm.

problem solved

I dont' hang out in places where there are fckwits.
I've never seen a fight in a club in melbourne (expt once, just pushing at the lounge) Maybe my Clubs and hangouts should be exempt?

Phyltr · Post by **Phyltr** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:52 pm

Jebus. This doesn't even work in Hobart where there really isn't a huge population to speak of. Getting a taxi is a freaking nightmare.

I'm going to have to relocate to Europe again I think.

So, at what point does it become 'the following day' in respect to letting patrons in?

If I were to rock up to Revolver at 9am on a Saturday morning could you classify that as a new day? I'll have just got out of bed, obviously.

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Fri May 02, 2008 6:53 pm

10.15 wrote:
deviant wrote:we should come up with an acurate way of assesing "fuckwitness" and put an actual curfew on these people.... like a neck band tazer that shocks them if they aren't at home by 10pm.

problem solved
Dan 4 President

Or tasers for us. I know Gnat wants one with mp3 function.

I'd love to taser some of the hair-gelled footyteams who are taking out their pent-up homosexuality on each other.

Or we could lock them in an arena and give them all tasers and screen the footage in the big brother time slot with benny-hill theme music playing in the background.

Ok I go now.