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as ive said before, mixing involves having hand(s), ear(s) and being able to count to 16


who cares what tools

this is pretty much the future of DJing IMO, and more fun than just vinyl.

APC 40

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

was at a fairly large rave few weeks back and the DJ (in front of hundreds of people) clumsily knocked his MacBook down off the stage and into the crowd.

was fuckin lol.




vinyl & cd-r !

hehe. i've stumbled at some heinous hour of the morn and inadvertently flung the next record into the crowd. no one was lucid enough to notice.

Late morning warehouse sets with a bottle of pimms ftw.

yep. still play vinyl. don't think i'll stop either. too much fun to be had..

OK ... so I just used Serato for a whole gig for the first time.

Not mine, was playing with someone else.

And I discovered that you can use Serato with CDJs.

So, why would anyone use Serato with turntables if decent CDJs were available (and you knew how to use them)?

I mean other than looking cool, obviously.

well I think if you were doing lots of juggling and scratching and shit most would want to still use serratto via vinyl yeh. But yeh for mixing and stuff prolly CDJ would be better.

Oh yeah, meant to put other than scratch / juggling / hip hop DJs.

I suppose you wouldn't use it on shit CDJs either.

Do people take both control methods out and choose one based on what is available?

Just going to take time for attitudes to shift is all. Some people may never let go, people do that.

honestly the way things are going
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It is all digital and controled from a single unit, probably capable of 6 deck controls and mixer with unlimited effects able to be uploaded in the one unit with software. Midi controlable to - everything - or nothing - able to be done on the fly.


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the VCM-600 is a controller specialized for mixing, which offers excellent performance to DJs who mix with digital music media and computer based systems.

The VCM-600 shares the same quality control parts used on Vestax mixers and 2 LED panels are placed on each side of the controller to illuminate the top panel for clear operability and vision in clubs. The VCM-600 can control 160 parameters of Ableton Live software and other MIDI compliant DAW software with high resolution MIDI signals sent via USB.

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The VCM-600 can control 160 parameters of Ableton Live software and other MIDI compliant DAW software with high resolution MIDI signals sent via USB.
Multi track control (track bank)
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JAMESSSS wrote:OK ... so I just used Serato for a whole gig for the first time.

Not mine, was playing with someone else.

And I discovered that you can use Serato with CDJs.

So, why would anyone use Serato with turntables if decent CDJs were available (and you knew how to use them)?

I mean other than looking cool, obviously.

probably cause serato was designed for turntables... the only cdj's it works with are cdj400 as they have a usb connection... i used to have serato and it does not work that well with cdj1000's, use loose most of the functions...

For real? I was told it worked perfectly?

yeh Phonetics not sure I understand..

what does a turntable (ie a needle playing a control tone) have that a CDJ doesn't (a laser playing a control tone)?

pretty sure Serato would work with any CDJ....

"I can get my software to sound just like hardware...But, I can't get my hardware to sound like software!"

Cubist wrote:"I can get my software to sound just like hardware...But, I can't get my hardware to sound like software!"

stop being sexual...........

Be more sexual!

It's true.

Cubist wrote:"I can get my software to sound just like hardware...But, I can't get my hardware to sound like software!"

Where is that quote from?

bonsai wrote:

Cubist wrote:"I can get my software to sound just like hardware...But, I can't get my hardware to sound like software!"

Where is that quote from?

Jimi Hendrix - Purple Haze

phonetics wrote:

JAMESSSS wrote:OK ... so I just used Serato for a whole gig for the first time.

Not mine, was playing with someone else.

And I discovered that you can use Serato with CDJs.

So, why would anyone use Serato with turntables if decent CDJs were available (and you knew how to use them)?

I mean other than looking cool, obviously.

probably cause serato was designed for turntables... the only cdj's it works with are cdj400 as they have a usb connection... i used to have serato and it does not work that well with cdj1000's, use loose most of the functions...

Turntables don't have USB either ... you just use control signal CDs instead of Vinyl. What functions could you possibly loose using CDJ1000s?

phonetics wrote:

JAMESSSS wrote:OK ... so I just used Serato for a whole gig for the first time.

Not mine, was playing with someone else.

And I discovered that you can use Serato with CDJs.

So, why would anyone use Serato with turntables if decent CDJs were available (and you knew how to use them)?

I mean other than looking cool, obviously.

probably cause serato was designed for turntables... the only cdj's it works with are cdj400 as they have a usb connection... i used to have serato and it does not work that well with cdj1000's, use loose most of the functions...

you obviously have absolutely no clue what you're on about. why bullshit like this unless you're certain its factual. maybe you should learn how to set it up properly by reading the manual that comes with the Serato equipment.. its pretty much plug and play from my experience anyway.

First of all, CDJ400s need a firmware update before they will work with Serato Scratch Live. Secondly, you dont need USB on your CDJs to use Serato or FS in ANY circumstance. The USB input/output on these CDJs is for external HDDs and for use as a midi controller.

CDJ1000s works perfectly, right down to 0.02% pitch resolution with Serato.

CDJ800s also work perfectly.

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

Looping functions all work as they should, not as well as with audio CDs, but work nonetheless. the only function I've found not working is the Master Tempo, MMC (displayed on computer) and Wave display (also displayed on computer).

bonsai wrote:

phonetics wrote:

JAMESSSS wrote:OK ... so I just used Serato for a whole gig for the first time.

Not mine, was playing with someone else.

And I discovered that you can use Serato with CDJs.

So, why would anyone use Serato with turntables if decent CDJs were available (and you knew how to use them)?

I mean other than looking cool, obviously.

probably cause serato was designed for turntables... the only cdj's it works with are cdj400 as they have a usb connection... i used to have serato and it does not work that well with cdj1000's, use loose most of the functions...

you obviously have absolutely no clue what you're on about. why bullshit like this unless you're certain its factual. maybe you should learn how to set it up properly by reading the manual that comes with the Serato equipment.. its pretty much plug and play from my experience anyway.

First of all, CDJ400s need a firmware update before they will work with Serato Scratch Live. Secondly, you dont need USB on your CDJs to use Serato or FS in ANY circumstance. The USB input/output on these CDJs is for external HDDs and for use as a midi controller.

CDJ1000s works perfectly, right down to 0.02% pitch resolution with Serato.

CDJ800s also work perfectly.

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

Looping functions all work as they should, not as well as with audio CDs, but work nonetheless. the only function I've found not working is the Master Tempo, MMC (displayed on computer) and Wave display (also displayed on computer).

agreed, i know people that perform with serato and 1000 everyweek with no probs at all... where were you trying to put the usb anyway?

gees mate calm the fuck down it really is not that important to me, honestly... I used to have serato and found it did not work as well with cdj's as with my turntables... cdj400 are more suited (watch video below), I am well aware of why they are more suited... Yes I set up my cdj1000's fine (why assume i am retarded), yes they were working, but no the pitch read out was lost on the cdj as well as a few other functions... basically my opinion with serato is either use a turntable or a midi controller don't bother with cdj's...

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

I'm still confused.

Why do you need the pitch reading on the CDJ?

Turntables certainly don't have that?

Why is he plugging USB from CDJs into laptop???

Ok this video is the funniest thing I've seen all week.

JAMESSSS wrote:Why is he plugging USB from CDJs into laptop???

using the cdj as a midi controller for serato?

What benefit would you get from that?

(actual question)

JAMESSSS wrote:What benefit would you get from that?

(actual question)

getting entire threads in your honour on mbc.

fooishbar wrote:

JAMESSSS wrote:What benefit would you get from that?

(actual question)

getting entire threads in your honour on mbc.

Well I don't see the benefit in that. USB not needed tbh.

I'm very calm.

LOL on the 4 pages.......

Spherix wrote:as ive said before, mixing involves having hand(s), ear(s) and being able to count to 16


who cares what tools

totally agree!!

I'm rocking Traktor Scratch Duo now... loving it.

Yeah see Traktor looks better to me than Serato.

If Traktor was smart they would add support for interfacing a with Serato box, as Serato seems to have higher club penetration.

I don't think that would be smart at all mate.

They'd lose more money than they would gain IMO, due to lack of $$$ on the interface.

And TBH (again), the Traktor interface is probably the biggest selling point. Better quality converters in it than its Serato counterpart.

All in all, Serato has a better name (I.e. more "penetration") coz it's been around longer.... that's all.... and these things change... from what I hear Traktor has been eating away at Serato's rather large slice of pie for a while now.

Can you buy just the software?

If they could convince all Serato users to start using Traktor on their Serato box it would be a massive. Serato would die, who is going to buy a new Searto box to use with Traktor when you can get the real thing for the same money!

Sure some people would pirate Traktor software to use with Serato, but in doing so Traktor is still gaining market share.

There are other versions of Traktor you can buy, as just the software. But they're limited.

They'll never develop Traktor software to work with a Serato box. Well, IMO. The box acts as the dongle for the software, and there'd be too many problems with stability issues, driver development etc between the two companies for it to occur.

Traktor's main benefits come from buying it as a all-in-one package. Stability, quality and value for money.

Yeah I don't think they ever (ever!) will either, I'm just saying I think it would be a smart move for them to do it.

There is no reason they couldn't though. I'm sure the Serato box could be used as a dongle (Serato does it), some features could even be limited if a Serato box was chosen. And I can't see what stability issues there would be bar Serato breaking it in a firmware upgrade. This could be fixed by requiring a certain version for compatibility.

I'm sure Serato would get all huffy and stomp around though. That might be an issue.

I thought I said calm down!

Dan could you please stop using big fonts? You are offending my finely tuned sensibilities.

just remain calm and I wont have to.

Intervention tbh.

phonetics wrote:gees mate calm the fuck down it really is not that important to me, honestly... I used to have serato and found it did not work as well with cdj's as with my turntables... cdj400 are more suited (watch video below), I am well aware of why they are more suited... Yes I set up my cdj1000's fine (why assume i am retarded), yes they were working, but no the pitch read out was lost on the cdj as well as a few other functions... basically my opinion with serato is either use a turntable or a midi controller don't bother with cdj's...

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

ENGLISH WOOD BEe AWEZUM@!

nice video though, when did u make that, love the t-shirt!?

and please tell me... if you're well aware.. why are CDJ400's more suited?

I think he is saying CDJ400 are more suitable because you can use it as a MIDI controller as well?

I'm not sure what the benefit is though.

reading the thread while listening to the video is quite goog.

bonsai wrote:

phonetics wrote:gees mate calm the fuck down it really is not that important to me, honestly... I used to have serato and found it did not work as well with cdj's as with my turntables... cdj400 are more suited (watch video below), I am well aware of why they are more suited... Yes I set up my cdj1000's fine (why assume i am retarded), yes they were working, but no the pitch read out was lost on the cdj as well as a few other functions... basically my opinion with serato is either use a turntable or a midi controller don't bother with cdj's...

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

ENGLISH WOOD BEe AWEZUM@!

nice video though, when did u make that, love the t-shirt!?

and please tell me... if you're well aware.. why are CDJ400's more suited?

you would be the same bonsai who messaged me asking for a gig, nice to meet you buddy... honestly i don't really know what i'm talking about, my mate just told me 400's were better cdj's for serato, i found that video at 5 o'clock this morning before i went to work and posted it, i never watched it... i sold my serato last year, when i hooked it up to my 1000's it worked fine, but i prefered turntables...

phonetics wrote: you would be the same bonsai who messaged me asking for a gig

when was that? the ting @ f4?

can teach you how to use cdjs and serato if ya like champ.

even though I think Serato is for slaptop whores.