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Lets discuss Acoustics? Where's, Why's, Personal Experience?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:16 pm
by LuKo
OK so am building some bass traps in a few weeks with a mate, figure we buy rthe material bulk, and some wood, some mesh and get to knocking up a few bass traps as shown in DIY tuts all over the web.

Just wondering what some of you may have tried in the past, materials used? from my research I assume that Corning 703, or 705 fibreglass is the best and cost effecient? any thoughts?

at the moment I am looking at bass traps for the corners of my square room with some smaller sqaure diffusers on the side walls and maybe two in the middle of the back wall

my room looks like the one in the first link except more square and put a set of decks where the back chairs are, and minus the drum kit (sheesh!)

http://www.readyacoustics.com/index.php?go=studio.home

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html


cheers 8)

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:16 pm
by Snowie
Mate, if you've got a few questions go see Marshall at vinyl warning, as he's already done what your planning. It would well worth your while doing so. He's the one that gave me the link to eathan winter's site.

At less expensive method besides putting in bass traps, which is a very good idea, the simple idea of hanging a few rugs up on the wall, leaving about a one inch gap between the wall and the rug. It will dampen the reflections that you would be currently getting.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:54 pm
by FoundationStepper
have you checked john sayers forums also? i know its not local but its valuable

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:38 pm
by LuKo
cheers for the suggestion snowie!

but am thinking i can get outta this reasobly cheapish, and dont really mind...am gonna do it with a mate who wants to do the same so we will try and bulk buy some material and knock a few up over a weekend with the Girls on their sowing machines ;)

tell me with your subby now, have you made adjustments etc..?

(I will get there one day to check it out :oops: )

have sorta been thinking treatment first then maybe new monitors 2nd

foundation stepper cheers - will swing past the site :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:40 pm
by Snowie
Yeah a few adjustment, more to do with positioning of the speaker in relation to me at the pc. i do want to make a shit load more.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:53 pm
by LuKo
OK getting desperate here - seems finding Owencornings 705 FRK is as hard as described in many forums all over the world - even the owens corning people here is australia cant sell less than a pallet and the people they recommended i see - didnt even know what 705 was!!@! sheesh!

if anyone has a mate who has done this or if you just know where i can get the 705 3 " batts

or even just the 2" batts :)

please let us know

CHEERS!

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 pm
by LuKo
Insulation centre - Melbourne!

for anyone who is interested ;)

p.s - i think some black material with some glow in the dark leaves added for effect will look cool :D

http://www.marijuana.it/images/glow-in- ... naleaf.jpg

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:47 pm
by Snowie
^^ Oh dear ! Do you need any glow sticks with that ?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:50 pm
by lynt
LuKo wrote:Insulation centre - Melbourne!

for anyone who is interested ;)

p.s - i think some black material with some glow in the dark leaves added for effect will look cool :D

http://www.marijuana.it/images/glow-in- ... naleaf.jpg
Definately down for the batt idea. My new studio currently reverbs like crazy.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:51 pm
by Grey Son
LuKo wrote:Insulation centre - Melbourne!

for anyone who is interested ;)

p.s - i think some black material with some glow in the dark leaves added for effect will look cool :D

http://www.marijuana.it/images/glow-in- ... naleaf.jpg
We all need some extra incentive ey!!!!! :wink: :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:35 am
by LuKo
lynt wrote:
LuKo wrote:Insulation centre - Melbourne!

for anyone who is interested ;)

p.s - i think some black material with some glow in the dark leaves added for effect will look cool :D

http://www.marijuana.it/images/glow-in- ... naleaf.jpg
Definately down for the batt idea. My new studio currently reverbs like crazy.
hmm will see how much we need to buy before the price starts dropping ;)

will get back to you on that one, after all the more who wanna buy a few batts the cheaper it could become for all!

snowie :lol: , if i need any glowsticks i'll come round your hosue and choose one from your collection ;) :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:11 pm
by Snowie
Yes i confiscate glow sticks off wankers that think that they are a good idea to take out in public, so after this many years, i have enough to light my studio....WTF!!!!!!! Death to all glow sticks!! :evil: :twisted:

Luko, mate, i'd be interested in the batts as well, but get a price and physical dimensions of a single batt so i know how many i would need for my studio. Cool.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:53 pm
by LuKo
batts are liek 610x1220 ;)

still looking at prices etc.. been actually working today......f*cken..

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:10 pm
by Snowie
^^ What the fark you working or working it, i've finished next week's work, i'm soooo bored that the word for the day is BOOBIES.......Use in every sentence tits fantastic!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:23 am
by JoyRiderz
check out

http://www.awave.com.au/index.php?manuf ... 7c3993fdec

not cheap, but they work better than anything I have heard IMO.

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:24 am
by LuKo
great site.. they have got the cool angled gear racks i have been looking for, but smaller cooler looking ones

cheers

but those real traps are expensive for what they are, considering what we will make will be made of exactly the same stuff..and should cost at least half that

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:47 am
by FoundationStepper
How did you find john sayers?

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:14 pm
by LuKo
yeah this : http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewf ... 23c5bdce43

its pretty insane, a very in depth forum - great stuff

havent had a great chance to read much of it, will be looking further over the weekend!

cheers

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:20 pm
by Luka
good work luko


i would like to do some treating of our pad but i think its near impossible.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:54 pm
by FoundationStepper
for the best introduction to acoustics for the home, great to get your head around soundproofing (not much on stuff like basstraps/studio treatment though)

www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/noise

CitySounds2

check it let me know what you reckon... I wrote a lot of it...

"CitySounds2 has been designed to assist residents and industry by providing information on acoustic design in an accessible, interactive format.

Using web design and audio software to create a virtual CBD living space, the program lets you hear real sounds of Melbourne, and learn ways to reduce noise levels entering into your home. "

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:01 pm
by LuKo
Yo! LUka - cheers

yeah mate, check it out next weekend at our bbq mate ;) pretty sure i sent you an invite ;)

Foundation Stepper - I take it this is your day job? something in the field of acoustics, and with the governement - what exactly do you do? :)

sorry couldnt read thru all that - but looks impressive!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:07 pm
by FoundationStepper
luko just check the virtaul apartment its fun

yep i work in noise policy and education

trying very hard to make things fairer for venues

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:21 pm
by LuKo
haha yeah that is really really cool man!

and looking at what you rplay in your sig, i'd say you probably run into all sorts of trouble with venues and their set dB policies / limiters etc...

all put in place to save themselves getting huuuuge fines

ever play at Republika before it closed last year, that was probably the worst example i have ever heard..

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:24 pm
by FoundationStepper
Yes I have... perfect example of what not to do...

buy a venue with absolutely shit soundproofing, and expect to put on dance parties! nuts

great cuase studies on why venues need eduation before putting the splash into big PA gears

strangely enough i dont have too many issues, largely becuase I just play quieter if thats whats needed... the other big issue being DJs who dont have any respect for the limits in place...

its partly the venues fault for providing and envionrment where the DJ expects to play loud, partly the DJs fault for not being considerate of the situation...