Avatar who liked it??

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:55 pm

I enjoyed the movie,....

in hindsight though, it's uber ghey and I prob wouldn't watch again.

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:57 pm

deviant wrote:I enjoyed the movie,....

in hindsight though, it's uber ghey and I prob wouldn't watch again.

as uber ghey as uber?

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:06 pm

totes

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:17 pm

dang totes uber ghey

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:54 pm

deviant wrote:I enjoyed the movie,....

in hindsight though, it's uber ghey and I prob wouldn't watch again.

Yeah. My brain was sort of going 'oh this is just twee/too obvious/cardboard cutout etc', and my eyes were saying 'shut up brain, this is really neat'

after finishing I thought yeah, a real spectacle worth watching, but it didn't take long for the visual rush to wear off. it was actually pretty crap, but I guess i can handle a movie or two a year or so on that basis. it certainly didn't resonate or stay with me at all like a good movie does, but i guess the plot was good enough for the purpose.

that said, too many illogical elements and holes: http://autotelic.com/avatar_-_the_metac ... al_edition

I also thought the use of 3d was well done in the pandora scenes but too demonstratrive early on, like the first shot with the golfball. its like the traditinoal cinematic devices, such as change in focus, have to be done really carefully and subtly with 3D or it is too direct and distracting. the computer generated stuff seemed to have better control over depth of field. I also really liked the cockpit curvatures and smaller sense of 3D.

obliveus · Post by **obliveus** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:03 am

This may have already been posted in this thread but I was just watching the Morning Show and they said Avatar has made over 2.1 billion worldwide. Probably in Australian, but that's some cash right there...

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:06 am

I respect the benjamins. I dont respect arbitrary tastemakers or wannabe film buffs. The fact that its made that much moolah tells you everything about how good a film it is.

Cash rules everything around me ahh, only cos I want to feed my family man, guess that makes me a family man, thats my fam!

Friends in high places. 10 Downing St chilling with my trainers on a seat lean back with a slouch. Mud on your sofa? friiilkkkk your couch!

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:17 am

lol ok ill review it again...finding it hard to get a new angle though.

hey guys teh planet is dying (captain planet - i wear my heart on a ring)
oi oi bro you seeing blue fool
bro thats the world as we see it
spaceships, the rocks float, the tree turn
arrghh i mate the alien sexor
fuck me its blue, lol.
fight the forces.
saved again.

Jurassic Par was much better. You dont see cunts making 'avatar jesus' animated gifs do you?
Those blue things are up there with fucking Jar Jar Binks as far as im concerned.

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:19 am

funniest person on the internets

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:26 am

it took this so called 'james cameron' cunt 10 years to come up with one pokemon character?

I like this movie.

The plot reminds me colonisation of America. And I like the sense of this film. -_- Also it shows the mercantile side of people.

I don't like computerised films, but this film is so natural, and because of that I was impressed.

But the film's plot is very predictable and banal. In my opinion, it's the main lack.

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:30 am

but what about the 12 bazillion dollars?

surely you would change your opinion on what kind of film it is on the basis of it making so much money?

enough to buy a small African country outright.

a good film is a rich one no?

money and straight up film thuggin are very important.

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:36 am

do you know what?

i actually havent seen it

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and im still trying to work out what your last post actually means alex

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:37 am

nic wrote:do you know what?

i actually havent seen it

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er...

hahahaha!!!

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:38 am

Nice on nic.
Think of the shards cameroncunt could of shared if he didn't makorz shit films,

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:39 am

cunts like him dun share the shard.

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:40 am

he is a prize cunt there is no doubt about that.

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:40 am

tahts wot makerz him a cunt

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:13 pm

youthful_implants wrote:surely you would change your opinion on what kind of film it is on the basis of it making so much money?

On that basis, McDonalds is the finest food in the world, and light pop-rock the best music

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:18 pm

you mean country and weastern in the best music.

Amick · Post by **Amick** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:20 pm

bible is the best book eva

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:32 pm

yeh i don't remember the biggest seller. its certainly not ragga-breakcore though

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:43 pm

lo @ FS. its probably not worth thinking about.

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:43 pm

FoundationStepper wrote:
youthful_implants wrote:surely you would change your opinion on what kind of film it is on the basis of it making so much money?
On that basis, McDonalds is the finest food in the world, and light pop-rock the best music

it is for the uninitiated, that's my point.

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:16 pm

FoundationStepper wrote:yeh i don't remember the biggest seller. its certainly not ragga-breakcore though

Speedcore probably.

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:01 pm

bwahahaha!

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:16 pm

Haven't seen it and I'm not going to, but I agree with FS in saying the amount of money a movie makes is no representation that it's all of a sudden a 'classic' or a must-see. You have to take into consideration that they spent $350mUSD advertising it before it even came out, more than any other movie ever.

I'm glad I didn't see it, I would have felt conned.

Kaiproject · Post by **Kaiproject** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:49 pm

Visuals stunning.
Plot obviously not so stunning.
Even so, some of the issues (and the amount of them) which it covers (albeit briefly) are admirable. Even if it does just skim over them, at least it gets people thinking about them.

The actual concept of an 'avatar' itself is a complex one that could be debated for hours (in fact in my 4hr Narrative for Multimedia class the other day we pretty much talked about it all class). Avatars in games/settings like Second Life, World of Warcraft and other MMOs, PlayStation Home and plenty of other settings provide that level of customization and personality to the pixels on the screen that are taken for granted now. Really a method of escapism (like all entertainment in a way), but on on another level; a true 'second life' for some people. Interesting doco on SBS a while back on Second Life and some of its users...
The way Avatar immerses you so much conveys this in a concentrated dose to the plebs who don't get this kind of thing. I know - I played WoW for quite a while and can see how you can get sucked in to virtual worlds. I can see the positives and the negatives. Some people just don't understand these concepts, especially older generations. I remember having discussions with my auntie/uncle about MMO's like WoW and they were incredulous. They really didn't get that they can be a rich way of interacting and socializing with other people, while of course also having fun and escaping from the mundane nature of reality for some people. How could they without immersing themselves in these worlds?

Anyway my point is I'm sure there are many theses on issues surrounding avatars and has anyone got any other examples of a movie that explores the issue even a tiny bit? Certainly not one that brings it to the masses to this extent I'm sure.

Of course the film also has positive messages the environment, the role of science, cultural/racial tolerance and understanding among others... Of course its not going to do all of them justice or even come close. Its not the Inconvenient Truth and its not The Class..

Its a lot easier to backhandedly dis it for being lame and simple than it is to realise that even though its a monster budget blockbuster, at least it touches on many of these issues and gets people thinking about them a little bit. At least I hope it does...

same o · Post by **same o** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:06 pm

is still a waste film.

Kaiproject · Post by **Kaiproject** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:33 pm

Kaiproject wrote: easier to backhandedly dis it

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deviant · Post by **deviant** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:51 am

Wasn't the term "avatar" coined by Neal Stephenson in his *awesome* book "Snow Crash"??

On a side note... I still can't believe they've never made a movie out of that

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:55 am

In my opinion, it's the main lack.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Pneumatic fake-tanned lacquered strumpet of a film. Nice to look at... poss. one night stand material but behind the tits, ass and hair extentions there wasn't much at all. Film should have ended where the tree caught fire. No such thing as a happy ending in the actual battles between resource exploitation and ecosystem preservation that are happening atm.

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:08 am

deviant wrote:Wasn't the term "avatar" coined by Neal Stephenson in his *awesome* book "Snow Crash"??

On a side note... I still can't believe they've never made a movie out of that

No it was a Sanskrit term borrowed by Stephenson, meaning the manifestation of a deity in physical form

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:49 am

apophenian wrote:
deviant wrote:Wasn't the term "avatar" coined by Neal Stephenson in his *awesome* book "Snow Crash"??

On a side note... I still can't believe they've never made a movie out of that
No it was a Sanskrit term borrowed by Stephenson, meaning the manifestation of a deity in physical form

shame we dont dont have an emoticon for :sanskript:

Dan I'm sure a lot of the better cyber-punk fiction will be adapted for film as it it's prescience becomes more widely acknowledged and the funds and technology become available to re-create them faithfully.

I heard Chris Cunningham was directing an adaptation of Gibson's Neuromancer which would have been so rad. Chris Cunningham is just amazing. Sadly the project has since stalled.

Films like Avatar are actually a real triumph for Science Fiction as a genre. Probably not since ET has a science fiction film been so widely successful for all ages.

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:12 pm

Speaking of which, just watched a program on foxtel last night which was an 1.5 hour interview with William Gibson.

He still can't believe that "cyberspace" became part of the vernacular...

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:15 pm

apophenian wrote:Speaking of which, just watched a program on foxtel last night which was an 1.5 hour interview with William Gibson.

He still can't believe that "cyberspace" became part of the vernacular...

his version is considerably more interesting and exciting than the real one though.

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:18 pm

True. Apparently at the time (1984), people literally could not get their heads around the concept..

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:22 pm

apophenian wrote:True. Apparently at the time (1984), people literally could not get their heads around the concept..

I have re-read Neuromancer 6 times since I picked it up for the first time in 1992. It's practically my bible.

I couldn't understand much of it the first time, I just liked the way he wrote - loads of jargon, drug references and hallucinogenic imagery.

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:30 pm

Yeah I've read it a few times, and I really love a lot of early cyberpunk but I sort of hope that they don't make a film from it, if it results in anything half as bad as the horror that was Johnny Mnemonic...

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:31 pm

apophenian wrote:Yeah I've read it a few times, and I really love a lot of early cyberpunk but I sort of hope that they don't make a film from it, if it results in anything half as bad as the horror that was Johnny Mnemonic...

yeah Johnny Mnemonic was dire. In the main I don't really care if they make them into films or not. I'd rather read a book than watch a film most of the time.

Chris Cunningham though, if anyone could do it justice - he could.

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:34 pm

True, if he can make 2 robots pashing look hot, then he could probably do Neuromancer justice.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:00 pm

or a monkey play the drums with a robotic penis....

same o · Post by **same o** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:41 pm

Kaiproject wrote:
Kaiproject wrote: easier to backhandedly dis it
...

it's also easy to say wow.. the graphics, they made me feel like i was in another world.. wow, graphics made this film awesome who cares about a basic thing like a plot wow.. wow.. wow..

i don’t study media, and yes you may be able to micro analyse the film and talk about all the synonyms that can be drawn from it however...... it was still shit.

nic · Post by **nic** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:03 pm

it was fucjing shit
dint worry saemo, i dont study media either and im still an expert on when a film is shit.
its absoolute rubbish.

ill summarise it again

blue aliens, on a planet.
man cant suvrive, need to computer time into blue
fall in loive with a smurf
wolves prance, people romance
look the the leaves, its a visual farce
the greens win 5 seats, balance of power held for now.

avatar
0/10

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:07 pm

If I incite violence by making intimidating threats against the next person who posts in this thread will it get locked?

same o · Post by **same o** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:29 pm

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:30 pm

I haven't made threats against you yet.

same o · Post by **same o** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:34 pm

u could tho.. i might find them..... sexy

same o · Post by **same o** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:35 pm

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:01 pm

You wouldn't be the the first sameo....

nic · Post by **nic** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:06 pm

choke saemo in his sleep with now your cut off pony tail
then paint his face blue at when you creep out his window, leaving no trace.

was avatar crap?