Health

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:12 pm

Found this inneresting talk on cholesterol. This doctor is basically saying that there really is no good or bad cholesterol. What the medical professionals term as bad cholesterol is actually a protein (LDL) that helps to move nutrients around the circulatory system to the tissues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awA2fsa94MI

Fascinating stuff. I'll just keep up with the anti-oxidant foods and I'll be right mate

Also read that statin drugs, used to reduce high cholesterol, are responsible for increasing Alzheimer's in patients.

quick · Post by **quick** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:40 am

has anyone removed their own stitches before? Need to pay 50euros to go to doc to get them removed, but i am sure u can do it yourself... anyone?

elysium · Post by **elysium** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 am

I pulled my appendix ones out... but they were the dissolving kind anyway so I don't think it counts.

I would certainly not try using a stitch unpick / seam ripper commonly used for sewing... this could lead to most unfortunate consequences indeed...

Use that 50 euro on a flight to London and get the NHS to do it for free

quick · Post by **quick** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:59 am

all good... facebook status update worked better than a call to a nursing hotline...

retzie · Post by **retzie** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:13 pm

Steve, is this you?? Use betadine to disinfect the area - alcohol swabs are rubbish.

And hide yer facebook wall if you don't want weirdly clairvoyant answers...

manofunreal · Post by **manofunreal** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:21 pm

Health would be nice... I'd like to crawl my way back there. Anyone know a gym near east brunny that isn't completely overrun with roid munching meat heads?

quick · Post by **quick** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:40 am

retzie wrote:Steve, is this you?? Use betadine to disinfect the area - alcohol swabs are rubbish.

And hide yer facebook wall if you don't want weirdly clairvoyant answers...

lol copper wire

elysium · Post by **elysium** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:58 am

quick wrote:all good... facebook status update worked better than a call to a nursing hotline...

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:30 pm

Bit nervous about dentist this arvo. Been a while. A long while.

manofunreal · Post by **manofunreal** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 pm

Yeah my dentist died in a light plane crash (suspected suicide) around the time I was due for an appointment so I've been putting off finding another one ever since... Always had pretty much perfect dental health though so it can wait a while I'm thinking

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:26 am

Just started a new diet challenge at the gym

Paleo Challenge - check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

Lean meat, seafood, fruit & vegetables only.

10 weeks of this.

Good luck to me

Farken

almax · Post by **almax** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:36 am

Feigan wrote:Just started a new diet challenge at the gym

Paleo Challenge - check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

Lean meat, seafood, fruit & vegetables only.

10 weeks of this.

Good luck to me

Farken

http://forum.melbournebeats.com/viewtop ... ithic+diet

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:38 am

almax wrote:
Feigan wrote:Just started a new diet challenge at the gym

Paleo Challenge - check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

Lean meat, seafood, fruit & vegetables only.

10 weeks of this.

Good luck to me

Farken
http://forum.melbournebeats.com/viewtop ... ithic+diet

Nice Al - thanks. will watch and have a read tonight.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:47 am

girl at my work been doing no coffee, no alcohol, no sugar for 8 weeks and looks a million bucks. buzzing with vitality. i couldn't do it- they're about the only vices i have left! no wine or coffee sounds like falling down michael douglas style. have to admit her healthy glow did make me consider it though (briefly)....

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:52 am

^^ I did that for 4 weeks in Jan this year....

was pretty amazing I must say.... also, no cigs, no rugs

and drink this every morning...

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:03 am

deviant wrote: and drink this every morning...

^^^^win....but fkn expen$ive shit, but i guess its worth it.
I mean you could get the same from a whole bunch of veges and fruit etc, but this product is just so convenient.

you know this is what jockeys use to get down to weight, thats all they eat, just this

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:07 am

what is it? some type of green supplement? like spirulina?

have you checked vitamin stores on eliz st for it? sooo much cheaper there

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:21 am

yep, that's where I get it

it's still $65 for 500G

It has Spirulina in it, along with 100s of other things.... all 100% plant derived, not synthetic like most vitamin pills.

it I have a multi vitamin, I usually piss bright yellow later that day.... keeping in mind a vitamin pill is only ~800-1000mg.

The standard dose for this is 12G (over 12x the amount) and you don't just piss it away, the body actually absorbs it properly (I gather that's due to bio-availability of organic material)... it's great stuff.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:26 am

how long does 500g last ya? i take tresos b with selenium. also not cheap but i feel 100% better on it. can feel a marked difference in energy levels if i run out.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:35 am

if I have it every day, it lasts about 6-7 weeks.... If I have it sporadically (like I do at the moment).. it will last a few months.

500G = 41 * 12G dose... but if you don't heap the spoon as much you can make it last a little longer.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:36 am

500g bottle
12g dose
=41.6 day
so probably 40 odd days when you account for spillage and over measures.
Its pretty GAAH when you first drink it but you quickly get used to it.
Pretty sure a high proportion of it is made from legumes.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:40 am

"All natural, great taste, 100% Australian.

Vital Greens is a nutrient and enzyme-rich, complete superfood containing 76 nutrients essential for optimal health, energy and vitality.

Includes: naturally occurring whole food source vitamins, trace minerals, antioxidants, pro-biotics, essential amino acids, omega 3 and omega 6 essential fatty acids, digestive enzymes, cell pigments, plant sterols and fibres.

Available in the following sizes: 120 gram, 300 gram and 400 gram jars, bulk 1 kg jar, & convenient 'single serve' sachets (box 12).

Phyto-Protein is extracted from Golden Peas and has the most balanced amino acid profile of any plant based protein and the highest bio-availability.

100% Vegetable Origin, 88% Bio-Available Protein

Available in the following sizes: 500 gram & bulk 1 kg jar."

but dont get the 1kg jar unless 2 people are using it, think it is only suppossed to last 1 month or so starts going off, should keep it in fridge too so the 1kg takes up alot of space.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:42 am

good for recovering after a big weekend too

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:58 am

Vital greens is awesome, but I could never remember to take it. The taste is weird too, its almost like I love it and hate it at the same time.

I just use the ole multi-vitamins and keep em in my desk, heaps easier and always remember em.

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:33 am

Vital Greens = awesome!!

every morning in a smoothie. Tastes a little weird but it's so Good!!

Post by **huge** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:42 am

ive been eating shithouse lately as im always stuck in the city for dinners. might try out this vital greens shenanigans. i do ride at least 10km every day tho so at least im not fat huhuh.

Post by **system** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:55 am

deviant wrote:it I have a multi vitamin, I usually piss bright yellow later that day.... keeping in mind a vitamin pill is only ~800-1000mg.

that yellow colour is most likely to be vitamin c, which the human body cannot store.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:30 pm

hmmm, I thought it was Vit B tbh....

doesn't happen if I take 1000mg C by itself

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:06 pm

yeah when I have vitamin B tablets my piss is fluro.. is mad..

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:20 pm

Do I need a smoothy or can I take this Green Power just in water?

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:56 pm

JAMESSSS wrote:Do I need a smoothy or can I take this Green Power just in water?

can have straight up.

dilute with a bit of water and go nuts.

so, you don't 100% need smoothy - if you do, try this one.

Kiwi Fruit x 2
Banana x 1
1 dessert spoon vital greens
1 dessert spoon protein powder (not 100% necessary)
1 Dessert spoon of LSA mix(Linseed, sunflower and almonds)
handful of berries (frozen is cheapest as fresh is a farken rip off)
bit of ice
Coconut milk/soy milk/normal milk (also not 100% necessary - I use a splash of water)

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:09 pm

yeah can have with just straight up water, though doesnt dissolve very well so they is always a "power slurp" at the bottom of the glass

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:25 pm

mix with juice ftw...

apple and mango is the best imo

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:12 pm

Do you think they would make it for me at Boost?

Post by **huge** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:17 pm

i'll put it on the menu at the cafe for ya

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:39 pm

i am feeling really healthy after 3 weeks of no green, chain smoking marlborough lights, eating indonesian food every day (spicy, simple, chicken and fish w rice and some greens) and drinking a lot of beer (which i never usually drink)

there is too much oil in everything here, and too much milk/cheese.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:44 pm

ghetto kitty wrote: i am feeling really healthy after 3 weeks of no green, chain smoking marlborough lights, eating indonesian food every day (spicy, simple, chicken and fish w rice and some greens) and drinking a lot of beer (which i never usually drink)

ghetto kitty wrote: i am feeling really healthy after ....
chain smoking marlborough and drinking a lot of beer
there is too much oil in everything here, and too much milk/cheese.

contradiction much

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:18 pm

um no.

you sir, are just an idiot.

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:51 pm

and she's back.

welcome back Bo.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:02 pm

hai feigs!

so so tired. why is it that you come back from holiday and need a holiday?

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:06 pm

work.

Post by **huge** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:48 am

been making smoothies every morning at the shop with vital greens.

just put in soy milk, a banana, some natural yoghurt and a bit of muesli and a touch of caramel milk shake flavour hah! tastes pretty awesom tbh. our barista wants to start putting protein powder in it but it will probably just make me fat tbh.

shit has bloody everthing in it! even has a natural anti depressant which is why it makes you feel good huhu.

bloody expensive but i guess it's good for ya

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:26 pm

Been on the morning smoothie myself. Skim milk, rolled oats, little peanut butter, banana and a scoop of SWISS protein powder. Goes alright.
Other mornings been on the MultiGrain with tomatoes, mint and pepper. MMMMMMMM.

aroes · Post by **aroes** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:08 am

What are people's thoughts on flu shots?

Had one for the first time last year, and had another one the other day

I'm relatively fit and healthy. My theory is that maybe they are a waste of time. If my body is in good condition, then shouldn't it be able to shake a flu in 3-4 days without the help of the vaccine? I put this question to my doc and she basically said that eventhough my body could fight a flu by itself, she thought that it could fight it more effectively if I'd been vaccinated. Fairly vague response imo

I'm now crook as a dog and although I can't be sure it's a result of the shot I've just had, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have more than a sneaking suspicion

So what I'm wondering is, would I be better off just chancing it and giving the shot a miss, or are there actually some proven benefits? Did a bit of digging around for info but only turned up the standard internet armchair expert rubbish. Would be interested to get some opinions from people here

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:42 pm

I don't really know the facts, but I personally never get them... even though they are free from my work. Something about it "irks" me, don't really now why.

I never really get that sick

meh

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:42 pm

The point of the flu shot is to boost your immune system and the cells that fight a illness when you are exposed to it. The influenza vaccine is a inactivated/killed vaccine which is where they kill the virus particles making it unable to replicate when it is given to a person. Your body then has the 'memory' cells so that if you are exposed to the illness you can produce immune cells to fight the illness quicker than if you didn't have the vaccine. So you may only get the flu for a day (or not notice it at all) rather than a week for example.

The reason you feel shit could be a couple of reasons, one is that you have some of the side affects from the vaccine itself which usually last 1-2 days and are things like aches and pains or fever. The other possible reason is that the vaccine takes 2 weeks for it to be properly effective and you may have been unlucky enough to catch influenza in the mean time.

Is it worth getting is up to you but it depends on if it would be a big deal if you miss a week of work laid up in bed or are around children (babies esp) or elderly people that you wouldn't want getting sick.

aroes · Post by **aroes** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:36 pm

Hmm ok

Another thing I was wondering was, does my immunity get stronger every year I have the vaccine, or does it kind of start again from scratch at the beginning of each flu season?

I'm starting to think I might just be better off giving the vaccination a miss and chancing it in future. The longest period I'm ever sick for is about 3 days, after which my body recovers. I'm young and fit so it's highly unlikely I'm going to die or become gravely ill as a result of contracting the flu

Still a bit confused though

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:48 pm

Influenza is a bit unique in that it changes slightly every winter as it goes from hemisphere to hemisphere. So thats why you have to get a yearly vaccine as opposed to a 10year tetanus vaccine for example. There's also a bit of guess work involved from what I've been taught in that they have an idea of what the strand will be using the Northern Hemisphere influenza to go off.

fwiw I never get sick and am around sick people all day and have never bothered getting the vaccine. But now I have a baby I get vaccinated because I don't want to risk giving something to him even if I'm not sick.

nic · Post by **nic** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:14 pm

thye arwe a scam and make u infertile IMO
much like swine flu shots which were fake
placebo would be more effective

aroes · Post by **aroes** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:36 am

thanks nic