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valuetime wrote:JI murdering innocent bunny rabbits?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 58548.html
^^ interesting side note: i wanted to know what makes this "terrorist expert" gunaratna tick. the age ran an expose on him being a lying social climber about three years ago. he must've cleaned up his act, or something.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/ ... 48013.html
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Fuck.

Commandos secure E Timor airport http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5014830.stm

Eyewitness: East Timor unrest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5014986.stm

and this just through from my mates that are still there:

spent five hours at the Ministry of Labour offices, most of it
> sitting on the floor away from the windows, and listening to the
> gunfire outside. now can differentiate the sounds of small arms,
> attack rifles, machine guns and RPG (rocket propelled grenades).
> she has spent the day at home, which has become a centre for
> internally displaced persons, with an extra 14 people turning up looking for shelter.
>>
> At about 4pm, was able to drive home.
>
The mood changed significantly about 1 hour ago.
> After spending the day inside, suddenly people started heading towards
> the waterfront & the first of the Australian frigates turned up.
> The change in the atmosphere in the whole city is profound.

> But there will be many physical and emotional scars and terrible
> memories from today. Many people seem to have died, most killed in
> battles across the city seemingly between the police and the military.
> Xanana has taken over control of the government and dissolved the parliament, which everyone has welcomed.
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Holy..............shit.

That's terrible. I was just griping about work. Kinda puts things in perspective.
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elysium wrote:Fuck.

Commandos secure E Timor airport http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5014830.stm

Eyewitness: East Timor unrest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5014986.stm
one of my friends might well be getting deployed there. :(
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australian brigadier live on channel nine:

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hahaha, that's so frontline.
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ha. this is so america: drop two bombs on a guy's house then commission an autopsy, just so we all know how he died.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us- ... 30680.html
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So what's Dark Lord Piddle Bottom Done this time?

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Berkeley economics professor Brad DeLong teams up with journalism professor Susan Rasky on a quick guide for journalists who talk to economists and want to be in the information -- rather than disinformation -- business.

By Brad DeLong and Susan Rasky
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1. Everybody's got an angle. The initials "Ph.D." don%u2019t guarantee impartiality. Ask your experts what their ideological opponents would say on the issue. Take what your experts say and advocate only as seriously as they can make a strong case for the other side--the side they oppose. Talking to "experts" who are interested not in educating but in confusing you is at best a waste of your time. Journalists are valuable and useful only to the extent that they are in the information rather than in the disinformation business.

2. Never write "economists disagree." No matter how limited your space or time, never write "economists disagree." Write WHY economists disagree. An expert who cannot explain why other experts think differently isn't much of an expert. A reporter who can%u2019t fit an explanation of where the disagreement lies into the assigned space isn't much of a journalist. A journalist who cannot figure out the source of the disagreement is a journalist who is working for whoever has the best-funded public-relations firm--and is working for them for free.

3.No naked numbers. Don%u2019t report numbers by themselves. Numbers have meaning only in context. And context is almost always impossible without explicit comparisons to other numbers. How does this number compare to other cities, other states, other countries, other eras? How does this number compare to total spending, spending on necessities, spending on luxuries, spending on other kinds of goods?

4. No meaningless numbers. Do not report budget, trade, tax, or other numbers in billions or trillions or even millions. Use per capita or per worker or per household or per share terms to make them meaningful. It's not a $70 billion tax cut--it's $43,000 per recipient millionaire per year. It's not a $300 billion deficit--it's an extra $4,000 per family of four per year that the government has charged and is expecting you to pay through additional taxes sometime in the future.

5. No fake trends. Three anecdotes do not a trend make. No matter what they told you on the features desk, three anecdotes do not a trend make. Make sure anecdotes that "fit just perfectly" are not grossly unrepresentative. Talk to people who know the Statistical Abstract and the National Income and Product Accounts and Historical Statistics.

6. No invisible people. Don%u2019t tell half the story. Make sure you find all the players at the table, all the stakeholders in the outcome, all the participants in the market. Everywhere there are consumers and producers, bosses and workers, Americans and foreigners. An immediate corollary: Make sure you find all the moving economic parts--demand and supply, wages and profits, costs and prices.

7. Follow the real-life incentives. Economists will tell you people respond to incentives. Journalists know that people are not quite so predictable--they respond to the incentives they see. The best stories are about unintended consequences. Always ask what incentives people see, how they react to them, and why they often don't see what economists think they should.

8. Consider other perspectives. People make bargains or choices or contracts because they think they are good deals. Whenever people make what look to you like bad choices, ask what they see that you do not (and what you see that they do not).

9. Consider the alternatives. People make lousy bargains or choices or contracts because they think their other options are even worse. Remember, always, to ask "compared to what?"

10. It%u2019s all just transactions. Your calling as a journalist is to give the public the tools to evaluate government policies and actions. Government is not a glamorous gathering of celebrities. Government is not a sports cage match. Journalism is not a gossip circle. Report on government as you would report to your siblings on the rental agent your mother hired to handle her Florida condo.

11. Know your sources. Don't ask international economists about the minimum wage; don't ask labor economists about global reserve demand.
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Will wrote:So what's Dark Lord Piddle Bottom Done this time?

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I read the title and assumed it was ginger soaked in the 'good' acid... :lol:
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damn! police shoot out this morning around the corner from my house :?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 92376.html
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^^ so that's what it was all about. traffic was crawling along as breezed passed on the tram (suckers). saw police, smashed up car and news crews. not far from me too...creepy.
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Damn - that's about 500 meters from work
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i like it when journos try and capture the language of the youth of today.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/ ... ntentSwap2
THE Y-Z LEXICON
ab: (adjective) Weird, strange — as in abnormal. "My olds have gone totally ab on me."

ax: (verb) "Let me ax you somtin!"

bananas: (adjective) Hot, cute, adorable. "That guy is bananas!"

bitchin’: (adjective) Totally awesome, unbelievable or exciting. "The surf is really bitchin’."

chat: (adjective) Disgusting, wrong, not very nice. "That sandwich looks chat."

dog: (noun) A friend. "Hey dog — good to see you!" Can also mean to leave someone behind. (verb) "We dogged him."

hussy: (noun) Also a mate and friend. "My hussy and I are chillin’."

ill: (verb) Cool, in style. "Dazza is lookin’ ill tonight — totally sick!"

messed up: (adjective) Awesome, good, cool. "That is some messed up (great) party."

regulate: (verb) To punish or hurt. "Man, if you don’t stop it I’m gonna regulate."

sick: (adjective) An extremely good trick in extreme sport.

who’s your daddy!: An exclamation of victory or retort, nothing to do with paternity.
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rofl.
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valuetime wrote:i like it when journos try and capture the language of the youth of today.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/ ... ntentSwap2
THE Y-Z LEXICON
ab: (adjective) Weird, strange — as in abnormal. "My olds have gone totally ab on me."

ax: (verb) "Let me ax you somtin!"

bananas: (adjective) Hot, cute, adorable. "That guy is bananas!"

bitchin’: (adjective) Totally awesome, unbelievable or exciting. "The surf is really bitchin’."

chat: (adjective) Disgusting, wrong, not very nice. "That sandwich looks chat."

dog: (noun) A friend. "Hey dog — good to see you!" Can also mean to leave someone behind. (verb) "We dogged him."

hussy: (noun) Also a mate and friend. "My hussy and I are chillin’."

ill: (verb) Cool, in style. "Dazza is lookin’ ill tonight — totally sick!"

messed up: (adjective) Awesome, good, cool. "That is some messed up (great) party."

regulate: (verb) To punish or hurt. "Man, if you don’t stop it I’m gonna regulate."

sick: (adjective) An extremely good trick in extreme sport.

who’s your daddy!: An exclamation of victory or retort, nothing to do with paternity.
:smt044


Especially at 'Dazza' lookin' ill.

The only time Dazza would look ill is after 10 beer bongs.
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what anyone with half a brain always knew but the conservatives were (and still are) too hysterical to realise...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/ ... 40551.html
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5167266.stm

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stupid humans.

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sneaky hands wrote:what anyone with half a brain always knew but the conservatives were (and still are) too hysterical to realise...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/ ... 40551.html
lol

"THE magic of certain mushrooms has long been the stuff of myth" wtf haha.

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Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote:
sneaky hands wrote:what anyone with half a brain always knew but the conservatives were (and still are) too hysterical to realise...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/ ... 40551.html
lol

"THE magic of certain mushrooms has long been the stuff of myth" wtf haha.

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Wow. Groundbreaking research. Magic Mushrooms make you see shit. Incredible.

Although my understanding was that the active ingredient was strichnyne?
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deffo psilocybin (dimethyl-tryptamine)

ive got some books on it! :teef:
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rofl.

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WTF?
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wow. reading this headline makes me mildly concerned about this part of the world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/s ... 26,00.html

also, the UN should really think about getting these people some nachos and chocolate pancakes before their SUGAR HIGHS RUN OUT.
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The War on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil

by Michel Chossudovsky


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=2824
Diverting Central Asian oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean (under Israeli military protection), for re-export to Asia, serves to undermine the inter-Asian energy market, which is based on the development of direct pipeline corridors linking Central Asia and Russia to South Asia, China and the Far East.

Ultimately, this design is intended to weaken Russia's role in Central Asia and cut off China from Central Asian oil resources. It is also intended to isolate Iran.
Israeli Prime minister Ehud Olmert has stated that the Israeli offensive against Lebanon would "last a very long time". Meanwhile, the US has speeded up weapons shipments to Israel.

There are strategic objectives underlying the "Long War" which are tied to oil and oil pipelines.

The air campaign against Lebanon is inextricably related to US-Israeli strategic objectives in the broader Middle East including Syria and Iran. In recent developments, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice stated that the main purpose of her mission to the Middle East was not to push for a ceasefire in Lebanon, but rather to isolate Syria and Iran. (Daily Telegraph, 22 July 2006)

At this particular juncture, the replenishing of Israeli stockpiles of US produced WMDs points to an escalation of the war both within and beyond the borders of Lebanon.
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what idiots... don't they want jack thomas to contact bin laden so we can find out his email address?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 06116.html
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Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?

About the recent terror scare in London and the likelihood of successfully concoting explosives while onboard a plane.
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I don't have time right now to read that heggsy... but the mouse over says something like flying toilet terror :shock:
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:oops:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/5327826.stm
Tudor-Miles, of Bankfields Road, Eston, Middlesbrough, scanned photographs of adult porn stars into his computer and manipulated the pictures using digital equipment.

He digitally reduced the breast sizes and altered the genitals to make them look like young girls. He added school uniforms to some images.

At an earlier hearing, his barrister argued the pictures were of adults and therefore no offence had been committed. But after failing to have the charges thrown out, he admitted the offences.
The judge said: "It is clear to me that fantasising about children in a violent way is still part of your make up.
"In that situation I regret that this is a case where imprisonment for public protection is necessary in unusual circumstances."
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=120157

I thought this fucked up shit only happened in America! :shock:
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Lauer wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=120157

I thought this fucked up shit only happened in America! :shock:
Full on.... our own Mr Ed Gein.

Well... Mrs in this case.
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http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews ... _wolff.htm

September 17, 2006 -- A new energy drink that crashed runway parties last week is called Cocaine, and its makers are billing it as "the legal alternative" to the white powder drug.
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Special Hegg wrote:Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?

About the recent terror scare in London and the likelihood of successfully concoting explosives while onboard a plane.
Great read there Hegg. written with humour whilst being factual.
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jbs wrote:Interesting case.
Personally i disagree with the judge. Unless he was released on condition of never looking at porn or whatever then that's bullshit to put him back in jail - even though he sounds like a complete sicko.

As for the energy drink, fucken lame attempt at creating hype for a new drink. It'll fail commercially imo.
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Werry interesting Heggsy.. hrm I say
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.........KABOOOOOOOM.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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ROFL
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NSW minister axed, facing sex charges

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=160107

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classic.
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gnat wrote:NSW minister axed, facing sex charges

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=160107

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jeeeeeezus, that's pretty serious :shock:
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