Music for Old Ears - Downbeat Thread

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:38 pm

Truth is I have always had an infinity with downbeat. Even on the Gunners or Matallica or even Pantera albums the soft tunes appealled the most to me, as much as I love the hard stuff.

But I got to say I have never indulged in downbeats as much as I have over the last 12 months, and I notice it more with my aging ravers as well.
Not to mention the fact that even artists who once produced ripping tunes are mellowing out in their production a decade down the track.

So, where does your mellow head lay?

Nightmares on Wax has always led the way for me.

What was once the Wiseguys which was then Bronx Dogs is now Regal doing it solo and I'm interested to hear his new loops album, meant to be a lush as the gardens of edan. He has always been a master of the mellow.

Vadim's once harsh hip hop instrumentals have come down to a perfect sunday vibe with Sound Catcher - it is a blissful arrangment.

Gotan Project has grown on me and my aging body.

Not to mention to piles of dub and reggea from Perry to Groundation that I have aquired about the last 12 months to add to my slight collection from days gone by as I feel the vibe from the couch.

- note - all the stuff about getting old is a crock, just themeing the thread.

Post by **lynt** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:42 pm

DJ Krush, Rae & Christian, Freak Power, Kruder & Dorfmeister (anything on G-Stone!), Urbs & Cutex, Fink, Beanfield (most Compost), oh man, heaps! Nice thread.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:43 pm

Lynt.

Urbs & Cutex, Fink, Beanfield (most Compost) - must check these out have not heard them all.

Freak Power :bliss:

Krush = the king really ain't he.

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:45 pm

Dare i say i listen to ministry of sound chillout albums....

Also love anything ambient to go to sleep too. Must find more dub tho, FFD and that NZ dub conspiracy cd are all played out

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:46 pm

omg D- i read that as feel the vibe from the crotch!!

downtempo tuneage you cannot go past LC's tunes and i still flog that sleepyhollow mix 'beat to sleep'

K+D Sessions one of my all time faves. never gonna budge, ever, along with Rebirth of Cool Phive- downtempo at its best

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:46 pm

Regal got a glowing album of the week review in Inpress yesterday.

Mako and Deepchild from Sydney are both making lush laidback stuff.

Mako and someone from DIG had an awesome little sideproject called D's on the Two but I don't know if thats still happening. Was nuts.

scotty woo hoo · Post by **scotty woo hoo** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:48 pm

im loving cocorosie, break reform, aim, theivery corp & bomb the bass.

as for great lp's the following have been getting played lots at my house.
plutonic lab - codes of colours
bonobo - days to come
hermitude - tales of the drift

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:49 pm

Word to K & D

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:51 pm

although i'm not a _massive_ fan of the loungey NOW MOS style stuff, i really dig downtempo/chill stuff, it prolly is 90% of the stuff i listen to now days.

"Unomia" and "Eingya" by Helios.

secede - bye bye gridlock traffic and also Tryshala
Digitonal - 23 things fall apart
Ochre - a midsummer nice dream
tiki obmar - high school confidential & Seasons
arovane - lilies
deaf center - neon city
esem - serial human
infinite scale - Sound Sensor
most things on Merck Records and Toytronik
any album by Bola
any album by Maps & Diagrams
most things by Lusine/Lusine ICL are pretty chill

i could go on!

Post by **lynt** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:53 pm

10.15 wrote:Regal got a glowing album of the week review in Inpress yesterday.

Mako and Deepchild from Sydney are both making lush laidback stuff.

Mako and someone from DIG had an awesome little sideproject called D's on the Two but I don't know if thats still happening. Was nuts.

Yep, Deepchild is wicked. 5 star quality.

universal sea · Post by **universal sea** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:53 pm

RJD2, some Prefuse73, Grouse, Miwon, Tycho, Bola, some Frog Pocket, instrumental J Dilla, Blockhead, Amon Tobin, Shadow, K&D, Krush, Joey Fehrenbach, some Mum, lots of stuff from the UK's Frequent Soundz label, Tortoise, the Warheads, Yasume, selections from Kronos Quartet, Bonobo, Four Tet, Lamb, Quantic...

Lephrenic will have heaps.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:54 pm

I usually like only 1 or 2 tracks on the Ministry chill out albums, rest is just to cheese.

Fents- http://melbournebeats.com/forum/viewtop ... r+sessions and jah summer mix

I find a lot of big beat serves well as well, like the early Brassic Beats stuff.

Ealry techno chill out I have from the 90;s still goes well too - Soylent Green and the alike

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:54 pm

and i will!

Alias, Apparat, Four Tet, Lackluster. Mr Projectile, Secret Frequency Crew, Proem, Xela.

more labels, Cactus Island, Neo Ouija, or City Centre Offices.

If you're into that Nightmares On Wax sounds I'd look into stuff on ESL records like Thievery Corp, Thunderball, Ursula 1000, Blue States, Sofa Surfers, Nicola Conte, Les Hommes

universal sea · Post by **universal sea** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Lots of older school, rolling drum and bass played on 33 sounds great too.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:56 pm

big fan of Thunderball - love it. Not a fan of Thievery, something about it always shat me.

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:58 pm

check out this compilation called Mas Confusion http://www.discogs.com/release/101181
http://www.k7.com/de/data.pl?release=!K7137CD

Tracklisting:
A1 Metamatics Giant Sunflowers Swaying In The Wind
A2 Lusine Icl Risa
A3 Stars As Eyes Black Achievement
B1 Xela Streetlevel
B2 Autophonic Mind The Dot
B3 Adam Johnson Anex
C1 Funckarma Kobalt
C2 Adam Johnson Baquelch
C3 Quench (3) Zane
D1 Tomato Weirdo La Salle De Bains
D2 Michael Fakesch We Got A Generator
D3 Mr. Projectile Less Math, More Music

its radness

Post by **lynt** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:59 pm

universal sea wrote:Lots of older school, rolling drum and bass played on 33 sounds great too.

Cause 4 Concern - Phat Cap

Most stuff on Fokus (2004/05 really) were lush breaks tunes @ 33rpm.

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:04 pm

Ulrich Schnauss - Far Away Trains Passing By
Ulrich Schnauss - A Strangely Isolated Place

also a mate of mine from washington http://www.thenewlaw.com/

makes some awesome downtempo stuff!

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:14 pm

sorry for spamming the shit outa the thread. huhuh

A Silver Mt. Zion make some good, sometimes depressing tho, downtempo instrumental stuff.

13 Angels Standing Guard 'Round the Side of Your Bed for intance.

big ups flippo on the tip off.

aspekt · Post by **aspekt** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:22 pm

huge wrote:...Alias...

Muted is one of my favourite albums ever.
The album he did with his brother was awesome as well. So haunting and soulful.

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:27 pm

http://www.percussionlab.com/Audio/M+D_DJ_Mix.mp3

Post by **breaksRbest** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:35 pm

all of the acts I woulda mentioned have already been posted, except Eskmo and this dude named Lucas Chan

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:49 pm

DBoy wrote:I usually like only 1 or 2 tracks on the Ministry chill out albums, rest is just to cheese.

Fents- http://melbournebeats.com/forum/viewtop ... r+sessions and jah summer mix

I find a lot of big beat serves well as well, like the early Brassic Beats stuff.

Ealry techno chill out I have from the 90;s still goes well too - Soylent Green and the alike

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Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:51 pm

Hmmmm... downbeat. If we're talking about the more hip hop based stuff, trip hop/chill out, I guess NOW, K&D, Thievery, Shadow, Krush and Vadim pretty much have it covered.

If we also include more electronic based stuff, it could mean anything. Even "non-dancefloor" isn't quite right, as you can dance to a lot of it. Anyway, it's all music to me.

So in addition to all those listed above, I'd also recommend Boards Of Canada, Autechre, Qua, Pretty Boy Crossover, Telemetry Orchestra, Lusine, Black Moth Super Rainbow, Four Tet, Susumu Yokota, Funki Porcini, Anubis Complex, Hermann & Kleine, Pan American, To Rococo Rot. And let's not forget the Cinematic Orchestra, who have a new album due soon.

Pardon the plug, but this is basically what our Off Beat gigs are all about. Search for 'Off Beat' in the mixes thread for some great sets by Foundation Stepper, RK, Faculties Indestructible and easysleeper.

Brain · Post by **Brain** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:53 pm

Blue Lines - Massive Attack

Post by **system** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:54 pm

huge wrote:Ulrich Schnauss

oh Turing, yes. FSOL and Helios as well, for the strange trippy noises.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:59 pm

Love my dub of late.... reggae, hip-hop instro's and electronic chill-out (no folk music please!)...

DBoy's first mix is still a personal favourite, and got me right into the dub reggae vibe.

universal sea · Post by **universal sea** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:59 pm

Special Hegg wrote:
Pardon the plug, but this is basically what our Off Beat gigs are all about. Search for 'Off Beat' in the mixes thread for some great sets by Foundation Stepper, RK, Faculties Indestructible and easysleeper.

Finna's and Ides' sets are particularly down beat.

all the sets:

http://www.umfm.net/radio/shows.php?sho ... n=episodes

Post by **huge** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:00 pm

if you are after something that tells you what you might like then i will plug www.last.fm again.

its rad. just punch in an artist and it will give you a ton of similar ones!

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:03 pm

Rae and Christian
Music vs Physics
Portishead

also for something a bit weirder you cant go past Jimi Tenor, IMO

scotty woo hoo · Post by **scotty woo hoo** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:04 pm

huge wrote:if you are after something that tells you what you might like then i will plug www.last.fm again.

its rad. just punch in an artist and it will give you a ton of similar ones!

www.pandora.com is quite good too

Post by **system** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:06 pm

mrj wrote:for something a bit weirder you cant go past Jimi Tenor, IMO

his track on Nightmares On Wax's "Carboot Soul" is awesome.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:09 pm

blockhead: music by cavelight =

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:18 pm

system wrote:
mrj wrote:for something a bit weirder you cant go past Jimi Tenor, IMO
his track on Nightmares On Wax's "Carboot Soul" is awesome.

got LOTS of his stuff at home.

a Jimi Tenor record was the first tune I ever bought after I got my decks. Good times.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:32 pm

Direktor wrote:Love my dub of late.... reggae, hip-hop instro's and electronic chill-out (no folk music please!)...

DBoy's first mix is still a personal favourite, and got me right into the dub reggae vibe.

first mix i posted on Melbourne Beats was actually http://melbournebeats.com/forum/viewtop ... dimensionz Dimension Z mix, which is truely downbeat.

Purr / Sun Comes Up Inside a Big Strawberry
Earth To Infinity / Soylent Green
T Power / Interlude
DJ Spooky / Pandemonium
Beber & Tamra / Oh Well
DJ Krush / Ha-Doh
Wunder / Noitz's Kakao
Kid Loco / Flyin' On (kicksmix)
Oval vs Yoshihro Hanno/ James Joice
Oval vs Yoshihro Hanno + Oval vs Main + David Shea / Marcel Duchamp
Scola Hungarcia
William De Vaughn / Be Thankful For What You've Got
Lamb / Trans Fatty Acid (Kruder and Dorfeister Remix)
Luke Slater / Weave Your Web
Beber & Tamra / Breakdown
Klute / Torrential Pain
Unkle / Glow

Post by **breaksRbest** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:03 pm

and a damn fine mix it was too

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:22 pm

Direktor wrote:Love my dub of late.... reggae, hip-hop instro's and electronic chill-out (no folk music please!)...

DBoy's first mix is still a personal favourite, and got me right into the dub reggae vibe.

dude, nothing wrong with folk, put some nice big bass in their and it sounds killer...farkin genre'ist

Folk n Bass is the next black

SoulWhiteMan · Post by **SoulWhiteMan** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:03 pm

OTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A lot of this guys work is pure fucking gold. He became acquainted with Simon Posford (sphongle producer, engineer etc) and said "I don't like trance, but if you give me all the parts to your songs, I'll remix them into something I like" and wallah! Hallucinogen in Dub.

This guy closed Earthcore in 2005 and I was in tears!

Check out Smoked Glass and Chrome, one of the best tracks ever produced by any electronic artist of any genre.....

I'd dare to call it "dub psy" not "dub psy trance" but, electonically produced psycedellic fucking unbeleivable music.

OTT!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and I like Coldcut too

SoulWhiteMan · Post by **SoulWhiteMan** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:04 pm

Oh
and

Sphongle

for fucks sake

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:59 pm

SoulWhiteMan wrote:OTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A lot of this guys work is pure fucking gold. He became acquainted with Simon Posford (sphongle producer, engineer etc) and said "I don't like trance, but if you give me all the parts to your songs, I'll remix them into something I like" and wallah! Hallucinogen in Dub.

This guy closed Earthcore in 2005 and I was in tears!

Check out Smoked Glass and Chrome, one of the best tracks ever produced by any electronic artist of any genre.....

I'd dare to call it "dub psy" not "dub psy trance" but, electonically produced psycedellic fucking unbeleivable music.

OTT!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and I like Coldcut too

Warren Maxwell from FFD fame has left and is now writing what some have described as psy dub with new band the bush whackers, i haven't heard any yet but apparently its pretty cool sounding.
so i'll rephrase my earlier post

folk and bass and psy dub are the new black

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:06 pm

gnat wrote:omg D- i read that as feel the vibe from the crotch!!

you are one classy lady Gnatwah

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:10 pm

Mmmm, I've heard Foreign System is quite lush

My all time favourites:

Ulrich Schnauss
Global Communication
Future Sound of London
Kruder & Dorfmeister
The Orb
Tosca
Nightmares on Wax
Boards of Canada
Pitch Black
Amon Tobin
Herbert
Biosphere
Bola
Boulderdash
SOTEG
Brian Eno
Chicane
Crazy Penis
DJ Krush
DJ Vadim

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:45 pm

Special Hegg wrote:Search for 'Off Beat' in the mixes thread for some great sets by Foundation Stepper, RK, Faculties Indestructible and easysleeper.

For some years I played at black cat doing a downbeat sunday session. Basically dub and intrumental hip hop orientated with a little atmospheric jungle, dancehall etc but in a laid back sunday fashion.

the electronic aspects where not dub were usually pretty current (not a K+D rerun)

a nice set which I recorded recentlyish was this one:

Left at Black Cat
A mix in two parts... Part A is a nice mix of foundation and digital roots reggae and dub - about an hour...

Part B is dub focused but strays into hiphop briefly as well as more chilled beat driven stuff, quite introspective... its got high personal rotation!! play them together - its how its intended!!!

Pretty patchy tracklists, going from memory mostly...

http://www.croakinglizard.com/audio/fou ... o_192k.mp3

An upsetter produced track and version
Black Uhuru - Puff She Puff
Linton Kwesi Johnson - ?
Chalice in Mind - Carlton Livingstone
Tonight version
Tonight - Eccelton Jarret
Cocoa Tea - Eighteen And Over
Courtney Melody - ninja mi ninja
Ini Kamoze - world a music
Barrinton Levy - A Yah Wi Deh
Love grocer - Forty Nights ?
Thunder mountain - Thunder Mountain?
Shaka - something off a dub salute record
Black uhuru - dub of englington
Drums dub - Drum song riddim
Upsetters - word a mouth dub?
Larry Marshall - Run babylon
Winston Jarrett - Crucial Times
Rocking Time Riddim
Winston Jarrett - Fear Not

http://www.croakinglizard.com/audio/fou ... o_192k.mp3

A phat roots dub track
Digital dub into EOSS - who are you - delayed and warped into some dubstep track by Timeblind
V Snares Vs Bong Ra - a remix of one of those unpronounceable tracks
Larvae - Banjos & Brimstone? Anyway its nice and brooding
Ghislain Poirier - Tribute to Tiger Instrumental
A electronic/hop hop track the name of which escapes me - the album has really cool silkscreen cover art though!
Dj/Rupture - Je Suis Peuple Sans Visage
Roots manova - track off dub come save me - its really sneaky and creepyâ€¦
A track by the Etherealites on a dubhead 10"
Then an oldish spaced out dub track by pitch black from NZ
Mad professor - Laws Of The Jungle
Outro

----------

Part B is one that sea dug in getting me down to offbeat. My offbeat set is a little more off on tangents than this, as it was a good excuse to play more "experimental" stuff.

For more downbeat dubby stuff... my Fire on the Wire Set has been very well liked (regae/dub - local stuff too). A personal faviourite which I always come back to is my set from Forward the Bass - really nice expera/dub with a roots focus and tangents.

The sock monster mix mortar and pestle dub is more dubcore (downbeat hard/dub/expera stuff) and i love it too, but amittedly not as palateable.

All this and more on - http://www.croakinglizard.com foundation stepper and sock monster pages.

PahMaLa · Post by **PahMaLa** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:01 pm

Trip-Hop is where the other half of my heart is at
Lovage
Massive Attack
Morcheeba
Kruder & Dorfmeister
Baxter
Lamb
Emiliana Torrini
Portishead
Smoke City
Soulstice
Sneaker Pimps
Supreme Beings Of Love
DJ Shadow
Tavlin Singh
The list goes on.....

gb · Post by gb » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:29 pm

Hermitude (best downtempo in Oz!)
Moloko
Digable Planets
Mazzy Star
Royksopp
Kings of Convenience (highly recommended for Nick Drake fans)
Bent
The Beta Band
Cinematic Orchestra
Tosca
The Herbaliser Band
Air
Lemon Jelly

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:33 pm

generally:
boards of canada
music vs physics
breakage

but specifically:
pinch - qawwali

quick · Post by **quick** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:33 pm

every thinktoy mix..... ever

on tour · Post by **on tour** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:41 pm

Cold meat industry for me thanks. Latest Atrium album is absolutely off the wall. Same with Ordo Equilibrio. As is Deutsch Nepal. Atomine Elektrine have what i consider some of the most lush soundscapes i have ever heard. Perhaps most of it it is dark and brooding music but that is fine with me. You can check out Raison D'Etre and his side projects at http://raisondetre.coldmeat.se/

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:59 pm

ooh, and i forgot, antibreak. really, really lush. try lumiÃ¨re, e.g.

quick · Post by **quick** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:30 pm

esem, ochre, maps & diagrams

all brilliant