RIP heath ledger

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:31 am

more than just a broken back now.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:31 am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

Very sad... very sad

Post by **system** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:36 am

yeah, just read about it. rip.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:40 am

like michael hutchence without the kink

RIP heath

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:43 am

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/hea ... 37306.html

great actor..

Mellogs · Post by **Mellogs** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:44 am

PahMaLa · Post by **PahMaLa** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:48 am

So sad, such talent...gone just like that...

RIP Heath

MR B · Post by **MR B** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:50 am

crazy...

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:51 am

oh dear

sad

Lizkins · Post by **Lizkins** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:54 am

fricken terrible news.

RIP Heath

saintberry · Post by **saintberry** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:54 am

Yeah RIP man...

He did some shite movies early in his career but you could tell they were just so he got his studio pieces out of the way to enable him to explore some great scripts.

Everything he has done in the last few years has been gold.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:57 am

http://www.infilm.com.au/reviews/candy.htm

this was awesome.... really good

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:58 am

he was only 28. very sad

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:59 am

Haven't seen Candy yet, must do so.

Two Hands FTW.

Lil MiSbreaks · Post by **Lil MiSbreaks** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:06 am

Great Actor, such a shame. Looks are so deceiving...... seems to have it all and yet possibly had nothing in his heart. Sad as hell.

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:11 am

Direktor wrote:Haven't seen Candy yet, must do so.

Two Hands FTW.

Candy is the best film he did.

ulyssian · Post by **ulyssian** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:15 am

what a shock. sad news.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:15 am

I dread the way the media is going to treat this.

found dead of an overdose in the Olsen twins appartment. yuk.

Post by **huge** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:24 am

holy crap!

Polecat · Post by **Polecat** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:37 am

DBoy wrote:found dead of an overdose in the Olsen twins appartment. yuk.

I thought he was found in his own apartment in Manhattan.

In case, a sad loss. A poor little girl won't grow up with her Aussie dad, and his own family will be missing him too. Such a waste!!

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:44 am

Polecat wrote:
I thought he was found in his own apartment in Manhattan.

SoHo, Manhattan - next to my housemates work ! paparazzi everywhere apparently.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:12 am

Just so sad....

how many children are growing up without one or both parents of late due to drugs?

Post by **huge** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:17 am

TMZ has a running commentary

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:22 am

my question is this:

what has changed that has meant so many young drug users are coming undone?

You can't say these kids are doing any more drinking or drugging than the likes of the stones, the Zep, Ozzy etc etc the list is endless... Yet they are still standing.... so then if it is not the rugs what is it about the lifestyle that has changed to result in all these derailings?

I mean there are your Joplins etc i know, but holy of late there are far more derailings than prior..

Yes? No? Discuss

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:28 am

on top of the pressure of being a creative type, (much more likely to suicide) these guys have the pressure of the modern celebrity. Can't be fun all the time.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 am

But is there that much more pressure to result in some of the spectacular derailments???

Oh for sure creative types are more likely to suicide...

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 am

a bunch of sleeping pills will kill anyone, Osbourne or Richards included. Look at Marilyn.

Super sad, so unexpected, but I guess nothing much is what is looks like from the outside.

RIP Heath

Sustain · Post by **Sustain** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 am

yeah, remember when he went to a demonstration at the state library against iraq? sooo many ppl in the media ripped the shit out of him; as if being a celebrity nulls you right to political expression

seemed like a genuine bloke. rip

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:34 am

I disagree Charlie.

Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Cobain ALL died at 27yo.

It's the age to OD really - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here.

LOADS of people died back in the days from overdoses.... Elvis, Bon Scott, Sid Vicious, etc etc.

I don't reckon there's more famous people OD'ing these days.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:39 am

I am not saying it didn't happen, i even referd to some of the examples you gave, however all of the people you have stated are muso's, the issues seems to have gone farther than muso's now... Or is it a case that actors never got found out???

I never said it didn't happen, but there are more across the board famous people derailing...

I am not talking specifics of what drugs... And my point was that is can't be the rugs, there is something else going awry that seems to be causeing people to loose it..

Just points of discussion peoples... that is all

i will shut up then

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:41 am

this is really devastatiing. so young. so young.

he was a great actor, an aussie, and there was some quality about him that made me want to invite him to dinner one day, not just star idolism.

RIP heath.

Candy was his best film, but it cut too close, it affected me for a long time.
but brokeback mountain was my personal favorite film.

Charlie73 wrote:my question is this:

what has changed that has meant so many young drug users are coming undone?

You can't say these kids are doing any more drinking or drugging than the likes of the stones, the Zep, Ozzy etc etc the list is endless... Yet they are still standing.... so then if it is not the rugs what is it about the lifestyle that has changed to result in all these derailings?

many things in this modern world contribute....

the pressure of having to be a celebrity but also be morally upstanding
is something i think.
in the seventies it was okay for stars to be stars, to get fucked up and fuck groupies and trash hotel rooms.
but now, they get sued and bad mouthed and put in jail for being bad boys and grrls.
there is the same pressure to be alwasy gorgeous and amazing,
but to also be a model of health and beauty and parenthood.

what stars from the seventies were touted as 'family men?"
did you even hear of stars kids then?
were any of them UN ambassadors?
hardly! more pressure, more different drugs, more papparazzi, more lawsuits,
more rumours, more competition, more fallouts IMO.

i read Mx and New Weekly in the stupidmakret, and im glad im not famous like them.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:42 am

Papparazzi are more prevalent now than ever.

Media has never been so instantly accessible.

And politically correctness keeps getting more absurd by the day.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:44 am

Direktor wrote:I disagree Charlie.

Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Cobain ALL died at 27yo.

It's the age to OD really - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here.

LOADS of people died back in the days from overdoses.... Elvis, Bon Scott, Sid Vicious, etc etc.

I don't reckon there's more famous people OD'ing these days.

yeah direkt, but they all jsut went out like a bright spark.

they didnt bash cars with umbrellas or shave their heads or get dome time and time again for possesion and drink driving..

they just went hard, and went out, and were instantly immortalised for being legends.

stars these days are more pitied by us. the last star to die in that fashion was cobain in my mind.

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:46 am

Marilyn Monroe - barbiturates
Natalie Wood - Drowned while drunk
Judy Garland - overdose
River Phoenix - overdose
Chris Farley - overdose
John Belushi - overdose

There's just some off the top of my head. It's not new, I just reckon drugs are seen differently these days. People try keep it quiet when they're in the public eye now days. Who knew Heath was on something?? He seemed clean living to me.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:47 am

ghetto kitty wrote:
Direktor wrote:I disagree Charlie.

Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Cobain ALL died at 27yo.

It's the age to OD really - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here.

LOADS of people died back in the days from overdoses.... Elvis, Bon Scott, Sid Vicious, etc etc.

I don't reckon there's more famous people OD'ing these days.
yeah direkt, but they all jsut went out like a bright spark.

they didnt bash cars with umbrellas or shave their heads or get dome time and time again for possesion and drink driving..

they just went hard, and went out, and were instantly immortalised for being legends.

stars these days are more pitied by us. the last star to die in that fashion was cobain in my mind.

Yeah dunno Kitty. Those stars mentioned were pretty fucking out there... Morrison was a alcoholic, womanising, woman beating loner.
Hendrix was known to be quite wild at times, same with Elvis.

Maybe it's just that things didn't get reported as readily as they do now, and it was easier for artist manager to cover up bad press before it got leaked.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:48 am

river phoenix.

oh.

why oh why.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:48 am

mixtress wrote:Marilyn Monroe - barbiturates
Natalie Wood - Drowned while drunk
Judy Garland - overdose
River Phoenix - overdose
Chris Farley - overdose
John Belushi - overdose

There's just some off the top of my head. It's not new, I just reckon drugs are seen differently these days. People try keep it quiet when they're in the public eye now days. Who knew Heath was on something?? He seemed clean living to me.

Wikkipedia Mixie?

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:48 am

OK i am not saying it is new....

Never said it was new, all i am saying is that the stars are derailing in a fashion not seen before....

not saying the prior to 2000 nobody ever ever died of drugs or drink....

but you can't tell me the soap opera we have to endure daily has been like this for generations cause it has not...

peeps are not getting what i mean will jsut leave it

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:50 am

charlie, i get you babe.

im with you!!!

read kitty posts again!

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:55 am

I hear ya Charlie... but other than crazy Britney, and the odd high-as-hell Lindsay Lohan incident, are there actually heaps of stars "derailing", as you put it?

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:55 am

Direktor wrote:
mixtress wrote:Marilyn Monroe - barbiturates
Natalie Wood - Drowned while drunk
Judy Garland - overdose
River Phoenix - overdose
Chris Farley - overdose
John Belushi - overdose

There's just some off the top of my head. It's not new, I just reckon drugs are seen differently these days. People try keep it quiet when they're in the public eye now days. Who knew Heath was on something?? He seemed clean living to me.
Wikkipedia Mixie?

Sadly no, I watch a lot of movies and read a lot of trashy mags

I get what you're saying Charlie, the derailment comment kicked it in for me. I agree. But I think Heath's death is more old school than new school cause we never saw him throw up outside a nightclub or be dragged away by the coppers.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:56 am

ah yes that is what i am trying to say...

there was ill behaviour yes, but they did not go driving around unlicenced, with babies on their laps all that sort of total wig out stuff...

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:59 am

Mischa Barton, Amy Winehouse & Husband, Pete Doherty, Ana Nicole was a HUGE one...

Nicole Ritchie, Paris....

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:05 pm

thought it was well doc'd that heath struggled hard with fame and the media

miserable difficult dude in the interviews i saw

clean living? :

looked unwell i reckons

and in the case of the young trashers recently- lindsay, mischa, britters, even kate seems like it's very good publicity to be a headcase drugpig. defo got em lotsa media attention and sif it matters that it's bad. kate did better than ever after her coke faux pas

any publicity is good publicity as they say

being a celeb would be a lonely life and plus they have more money for rugs. isn't really surprising that a lot of em hit it hard

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:07 pm

I just watched a video of Amy Winehouse doing crack. That's something you wouldn't get in the days of Monroe and Presley...mobile video footage.

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:10 pm

This article was published 2 months ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/movie ... ref=slogin

Quote:
â€œI stressed out a little too much,â€ Mr. Ledger said.

He tends to do that. He is here in London filming the latest episode of the â€œBatmanâ€franchise, â€œThe Dark Knight.â€ (Mr. Bale, as it happens, plays Batman; Mr. Ledger plays the Joker.) It is a physically and mentally draining role â€” his Joker is a â€œpsychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathyâ€ he said cheerfully â€” and, as often happens when he throws himself into a part, he is not sleeping much.

â€œLast week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,â€ he said. â€œI couldnâ€™t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.â€ One night he took an Ambien, which failed to work. He took a second one and fell into a stupor, only to wake up an hour later, his mind still racing.

Even as he spoke, Mr. Ledger was hard-pressed to keep still. He got up and poured more coffee. He stepped outside into the courtyard and smoked a cigarette. He shook his hair out from under its hood, put a rubber band around it, took out the rubber band, put on a hat, took off the hat, put the hood back up. He went outside and had another cigarette. Polite and charming, he nonetheless gave off the sense that the last thing he wanted to do was delve deep into himself for public consumption. â€œIt can be a little distressing to have to overintellectualize yourself,â€ is how he put it, a little apologetically.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:10 pm

mixtress wrote:I just watched a video of Amy Winehouse doing crack. That's something you wouldn't get in the days of Monroe and Presley...mobile video footage.

oh dear

that is one girl that needs help STAT

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:26 pm

All the girls stated are nothing short of crack ho's.... albeit famous crack ho's.

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:34 pm

sad news

on a kind of funny tip a girl at my work
is completley in love with dawsons creek and heath legers wife is from that and she goes poor "heath legers wife" always followed by tragedy first it was on dawsons creek when she had a baby then died, and now she has a baby in real life and the father dies..

lol

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:38 pm

Is she mentally challenged Pete?

Or joking?