JOBS

[shepherd]

i have questions whether their technology is the 'best' ... if it was they wouldn't be going after small business ... they'd go after big advertisers.

you could learn google in a week if you spent time researching it ... it's probably worth going onto the google ad solutions site and getting yr head around it i reckon. search is part of what i do day to day but we handle the likes of ford, kraft, disney etc so they're big budgets, big campaigns and part of even bigger overall campaigns

in terms of progression - hrm, i think if you want out of where you are (and i can relate) then it is definitely an exit ... but the two jobs would be very different. do you want to sell by numbers ... i can imagine it's draining selling a product to people who may not need it. i think with this approach you can't do the ethical sell - ie, this will help your business bottom line and i put my rep on the line backing that claim.

i'd definitely ask questions around not hitting targets - as this directly affects yr income ... it's good before you enter a job to be comfortable about any potential obstacles you will face or any things you may not like about how they do things.

[ghetto kitty]

in terms of progression - hrm, i think if you want out of where you are (and i can relate) then it is definitely an exit ... but the two jobs would be very different. do you want to sell by numbers ... i can imagine it's draining selling a product to people who may not need it. i think with this approach you can't do the ethical sell - ie, this will help your business bottom line and i put my rep on the line backing that claim.

i'd definitely ask questions around not hitting targets - as this directly affects yr income ... it's good before you enter a job to be comfortable about any potential obstacles you will face or any things you may not like about how they do things.

yes. I know they are completely different and that troubles me. my current job is not stimulating me anymore which is the main reason I want out, but I do love the nuts and bolts of what I do here, there just isnt enough scope for me within the peramiters.

I do best at things I love, I put my whole heart into them.
Its easy to get excited about music and art, whether im being paid or not.
But i just dont really see myself getting all hot under the collar and raving at people i know about SEM.
The first year of cold calling and the hangups WILL be really draining for me. I hated the brief stint I did in telephone market research.

I would never have gone for a job like this unless referred by my enthsiastic friend who also wanted out of the club life.

I just need an out from where I am, and really soon.

[shepherd]

remember tho kitty - don't let the fact you want out bad guide you towards making a choice that isn't right (ie doing it to get OUT of where you are, rather than to progress to where you want to be). there will be loads of other opportunities

[ghetto kitty]

i know, and im trying to tell myself that.

ive just been scouring artshub, applying for jobs in other industries and spreading the word quietly that Im looking for six months now and no bites.

but I may just leave soon and then I can really put the word out that im looking.

first time in real salary, no sub contract job, and im a bit scared to leave it!

[mrj]

many people would be suprised how many people they know have worked for abby winters.

a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.

AH... has S left THAT company???

I have to say that same company was a great stepping stone for my career as well.....

yep, is back at old company, better role.

[C.I.A.]

Never let it be said that pr0n doesn't promote growth.

[Feigan]

Never let it be said that pr0n doesn't promote growth.

Good growth at that aswell

[deviant]

i know, and im trying to tell myself that.

ive just been scouring artshub, applying for jobs in other industries and spreading the word quietly that Im looking for six months now and no bites.

but I may just leave soon and then I can really put the word out that im looking.

first time in real salary, no sub contract job, and im a bit scared to leave it!

take lot's of risks today kids!!

seriously, try the job... if you hate it, then do something else... no big deal

[ghetto kitty]

hahahah

tash uses my own words to encourage me too.

grr and love to friends who know how to hit you in the right place.

four pm today. im ready.

[Blaxter]

Good luck GK!

[huge]

short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.

yeah that was a major problem, and the fact that my website apparently sucks

well this might be your issue.

adwords can really work in your favour if you have a good back-end system/offer in place so you can afford to put a higher bid that your competitors and probably lose some money up front, but make all your profit beyond that.

say you see a car advertised for $20k somewhere, then you see if advertised somewhere else for $19k. that bloke is pobably losing money on the car, but he will be making money after he sells the customer an extra $2k worth of shit. and because he is selling the car for less he's gunna get all the customers in the first place. the $20k guy will be wondering what is going on cos he's thinking the other guy is obviously losing money so wtf?

adwords kinda works like that ime imo tbh

[ghetto kitty]

Good luck GK!

thankyou to all here who workshopped the SEM job with me, especially shep, as It taught me a lot and helped me prepare...

i felt good about the interview but I didnt get the job.

which is okay, im a bit relieved actually, just wasnt sure if it was 'me', the whole sales thing...

but, im still at lounge!!! so if anyone knows of any event/marketing/promotional/touring/music/arts/facilitation jobs,

im looking.

[deviant]

Event Coordinator- Moomba Waterfest

[ghetto kitty]

im might apply for that one...

lol @ the seven page run down of melb city council guidelines!

applying for jobs every day now.

must. get. out. soon.

[deviant]

^^ mainly focus on the "key selection criteria" in your application....

address each point individually with a concise story based on previous experience... make up/stretch if you have to

good luck

[deviant]

oh shit.... closing date for that application is TODAY AT 5PM...

oops, sorry

[ghetto kitty]

^^ mainly focus on the "key selection criteria" in your application....

address each point individually with a concise story based on previous experience... make up/stretch if you have to

good luck

i do that, yes, and was going to. ive applied for lots of job dan!
but i cant do it in 45 minutes...

oh wells.

just signed up with some agency for arts jobs....well see...

[elysium]

Does anyone know any librarians or anyone that works in this area?

I am getting mighty sick of my current job and I like books... so I would be interested in hearing what it is like working in this area.

[ghetto kitty]

hi guys...

yup, me in here again.

does anyone know where i can do the Certificate 4 in Workplace Training and Assessment

cheaply, reputably, or any advice at all on where to do this course?

[breaksRbest]

Certificate 4 in Workplace Training and Assessment

these guys would be the most reputable imo

http://www.aimvic.com.au/coursedirector ... urseID=222

otherwise most of the TAFE Colleges run the same course

[ghetto kitty]

yeah they dont say much at all about it brb..

i been googling, but kinda wanted a recc from someone who may have done the course or works for someone who offers the course!

seems as if courses are between $1k to $4k !!!

[Feigan]

I have positions available in Melbourne & Sudney for Account Managers in the Promotional Product industry.

Almost identical to what BrB does

see JD below....

Our company is a successful below the line agency who has established a strong track record in offering our clients solutions for their promotional merchandise projects.

The last 5 years we have experienced exciting growth with our operation expanding to Sydney, Hong Kong and Shanghai.

We are currently in the process of looking for candidates to continue this success in the future.

The suitable individual must demonstrate:

A passion to drive sales through targeted creative briefs

Ability to manage a portfolio of clients

New business development

Exceptional organisational skills to meet clients deadline’s

Ability to meet sales targets

Polished presentation and communication skills

Contribute to the creative culture of the company

The successful person will ideally have 2 years experience within the promotional products industry in the Sydney market, however other candidates who have a track record in B2B will be considered. Tertiary qualifications in this marketing/business will be an advantage.

In return, a competitive salary package will be available for negotiation.

If this has raised your interest, we look forward to speaking with you.

Please send your resume and cover letter to:

jobs@promsec.com.au

We're also looking for a production co-ordinator in Melbourne. will put up JD shortly.

Ta

SF

[breaksRbest]

I may have an applicant for that job already Scotty

He's currently selling 'new media' and wants OUT. I'll be seeing him tonight so I'll mention it

[Feigan]

^ nice one Glenny

tell him to give me a call to discuss if he needs

did you give Dino a call?

[Stray]

ROLE: ASSOCIATE PRODUCER

Reports to: Producer
Liaises with: Project Leads
Provides Leadership to: Developers


SUMMARY OF POSITION:

The Associate Producer, under the direct supervision and control of the Producer, works in a limited
number of producing functions delegated to her/him by a Producer in order to manage the studio
development teams.


KEY ACCOUNTABILITIES:

• Undertakes tasks delegated by a Producer.
• Supports Producers by executing a variety of tasks related to game project development, from
concept to release.
• Assists in ensuring adherence to budgets and schedules.
• Coordinates with resources throughout the company and/or third party vendors to ensure successful
completion of assigned projects.
• Monitors production budgets, schedules and deadlines for product-related materials.
• Supports limited aspects of the short-term objectives of assigned unit/team/projects.
• Assists in improving production inefficiencies.
• Carries out routine tasks and procedures of assigned unit/team/projects.
• Ensures the team have production support when working late or on weekends.
• Mentoring team members.
• Maintaining quality standards.
• Reviewing staff.
• Liaising with leads.
• Decision making.


KEY TECHNICAL SKILLS, KNOWLEDGE, QUALIFICATIONS & EXPERIENCE:

• Must have completed one full project cycle.
• Must have at least two years experience in the industry in a design, QA, programming, or art role.
• Proven ability to work with a team effectively and ability to delegate responsibility.
• Must maintain a strong working knowledge of game development trends and technology.
• Knowledge of scheduling tools and techniques, including waterfall and agile development.
• Excellent communication and organizational skills.
• Ability to work effectively in a team oriented environment and implement the direction of the
Producer.
• Ability to guide the development efforts with functional teams, such as Engineering, Art, Design,
Quality Assurance, Public Relations, Sales, and Marketing, throughout a complete production cycle.
• Strong problem-solving skills.
• A passion for creating quality games.


DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY:

• Assist with the creation of the project milestone schedule.
• Allocates tasks and staffing under direction of the Producer.


WORKING RELATIONSHIPS:

• Most frequent internal contact: Producer and Project Leads.
• Most frequent external contact: External Producer, IT, Outsourcing, Marketing


PERSON SPECIFICATION:

• Leads by example.
• Excellent written and oral communication skills.
• Calm under pressure.
• Understand team dynamics and management principles.
• Excellent organisational skills.
• Committed to excellence.


PM me for contact details

[elysium]

Has anyone here gone (or is currently going to) Monash University Gippsland campus in Churchill?

What is it like living there?

[quick]

Final interview on Thursday for the promotion I've been working towards for 2 years now... Face 2 face account exec, company car, all the other extras... nervous as heck tho, need to do a 30min role play to a panel of managers.

[elysium]

ooh! That is today - good luck Stevie!!

[quick]

thanks... it went ok, will know early this week... nervous about outcome, soooooooooooooo want it.

[Mellogs]

I have positions available in Melbourne & Sudney for Account Managers in the Promotional Product industry.

Almost identical to what BrB does

see JD below....

Our company is a successful below the line agency who has established a strong track record in offering our clients solutions for their promotional merchandise projects.

The last 5 years we have experienced exciting growth with our operation expanding to Sydney, Hong Kong and Shanghai.

We are currently in the process of looking for candidates to continue this success in the future.

The suitable individual must demonstrate:

A passion to drive sales through targeted creative briefs

Ability to manage a portfolio of clients

New business development

Exceptional organisational skills to meet clients deadline’s

Ability to meet sales targets

Polished presentation and communication skills

Contribute to the creative culture of the company

The successful person will ideally have 2 years experience within the promotional products industry in the Sydney market, however other candidates who have a track record in B2B will be considered. Tertiary qualifications in this marketing/business will be an advantage.

In return, a competitive salary package will be available for negotiation.

If this has raised your interest, we look forward to speaking with you.

Please send your resume and cover letter to:

jobs@promsec.com.au

We're also looking for a production co-ordinator in Melbourne. will put up JD shortly.

Ta

SF

Glorified Pen Salesmen.

[ghetto kitty]

i want a new job.

interview last night, over 100 applicants but he did talk with me for an hour and a half.

hrmmm.

[witty_pseudonym]

i just applied for my perfect job.

[ghetto kitty]

i just got asked to come teach stencil stuff in launceston in may for two weeks.

theyll put me up, and everyone in tassie treats me like a rock star when im there,
but im kinda meh about it.

two weeks alone in inceston. coming up with a whole program and conclusion with 50 year eleven students. and im not like, the most accomplished stencil artist.

man, if it was anywhere else id be like YES. but there is NOTHING to do there.
i did a five day master class there copule years ago and was BORING but looks good on the resume i guess...

hmmm. to do or not to do.

[breaksRbest]

spend your off time covering the town in stencils


edit: then blame it on teh students

[deviant]

offended by Tassie comments tbh

you can't even handle TWO WEEKS....

[ghetto kitty]

i like tassie!
i gots friends in hobart...just none up north, and cmon, there aint much to check out in launceston town.

two weeks of alone, teaching by day, sounds like very minimal pay...
not exactly able to check out the beautiful environment or relax or see stuff.

brb > yeh, that always happens. and they know that even if tis the students, ive encouraged them!

[deviant]

OFF

END

ED!!!!

[quick]

Final interview on Thursday for the promotion I've been working towards for 2 years now... Face 2 face account exec, company car, all the other extras... nervous as heck tho, need to do a 30min role play to a panel of managers.

I GOT IT, I GOT IT!!!!!!!

SO STOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[breaksRbest]

you're a farken Legend Quickster! Well Done mate, you deserve it.

[elysium]

YAYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Stevie!! That is awesome news

:pops the champers:

[deviant]

hey steve.... are you gunna say "moving forward" all the time?



well done mate

[witty_pseudonym]

congrats squirrel. 'sif you weren't going to get it!

i'm hoping for similar news over the next few weeks.

[breaksRbest]

it was as easy as clicking his fingers!

[nic]

i just got asked to come teach stencil stuff in launceston in may for two weeks.

theyll put me up, and everyone in tassie treats me like a rock star when im there,
but im kinda meh about it.

two weeks alone in inceston. coming up with a whole program and conclusion with 50 year eleven students. and im not like, the most accomplished stencil artist.

man, if it was anywhere else id be like YES. but there is NOTHING to do there.
i did a five day master class there copule years ago and was BORING but looks good on the resume i guess...

hmmm. to do or not to do.

I CANNOT BELIEVE im reading this. Im with deviant, you dont even deserve to go to Launceston. In fact YOU WISH you were from Launceston!

Smoke cones in skatepark across from Launceston College tbh. There is a small yokel hip hop scence in Launceston you would like, and its 2 hrs drive from Hobart imo.

Do it, treat the poor philistine Launceston kids something better than making homemade speed with uncle henry up in ravenswood, they dont normally have tv or speak english either so your presence would be a godsend tbh.

[ghetto kitty]

nic, you have confirmed my thoughts.
ill be handballing that one to someone else now

now guys >
if i had an interview a week ago for a job that 100 people went for,
and the 'chat' lasted an hour and a half...

do i call him today and re confirm my keen-ness
or do i email him
or do i leave it alone?

[witty_pseudonym]

I think an email would be better than a phone call.
I always wonder about the protocol on this one too.
I usually pussy out and leave it, but it's probably better to follow it up.
A week isn't very long if there were 100 applicants and who knows how many interviews.
Don't start getting worried that you haven't been successful.

Applied for another job at the Red Cross today. Better chance that the last one I reckon. Not as awesome, but same department, just lower ranking job. Bring it.
No luck with World Vision either (secretly happy about it tbh).

[ghetto kitty]

oh i am worried witty!
i want the frickin job so bad!
might wait till tommorrow then email...

fingers crossed for you to get red cross job lady!!!

[witty_pseudonym]

usually takes more than a week in my experience chops. don't stress.

[Feigan]

i advise the email follow up.

I'm interviewing at the moment and have had email follow ups which I think is a positive touch.

[quick]

being passionate about the job is a great thing... don't hold back, but don't go stupid either