2am lockout survey, PLEASE fill out MB.comers, we NEED YOU!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:48 pm

hi guys...
the fight is not over yet, melbourne is faced with a PERMANENT 3AM LOCKOUT for ALL VENUES.

I DONT CARE OF YOU STAY HOME CHIN STROKING WITH YOUR KNEE RUGS THESE DAYS, KEEP OUR TOWN READY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND GET ANGRY GUYS!!

(no i did not mean to use caps but it fits so yes)

KPMG has been contracted by the Department of Justice and the Director of Liquor Licensing to evaluate the 2am Lockout.

so please fill it out if you have a spare 5 minutes. brumby will see this, as will all the officials involved in this whole debacle.

quick link: https://www.surveys.kpmg.com/mmi/2wHK95C/Link.html

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07 October 2008

Dear Licensees, Members and Associates,

As part of the evaluation of the 2am lockout KPMG would like to conduct an online survey of licensee's along with patron's and the community to gain further information on their perspectives and have asked that we provide the following information. These survey's are on top of the group consultations also being undertaken with licensee's and for the evaluation.

Follows is an overview of the surveys, which include the purpose, an overview of the sections, and importantly the web link for access to the survey.

The survey itself should only take about 5-10 minutes to fill out.

As part of the distribution of the patron survey KPMG would like to invite venues to post a flyer up in their venue (i.e. doorway, noticeboard or at the bar) advertising the survey. Therefore, Venues are invited to post this information up in a prominent position. Other distribution methods include advertising in local newspapers.

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Information for Patron' and Community Survey

Introduction
KPMG is evaluating the effectiveness of the 2am Lockout recently trialled in Melbourne.

What was the Temporary Lockout?
The Temporary Lockout was a trial that prevented licensees from allowing people to enter or re-enter a licensed premises after 2am. The Temporary Lockout ran from the 3rd June 2008 to the 2nd September 2008.

Survey details
The survey will open on Monday 6th October for a period of two weeks (end date Monday 20th October).

The survey can be accessed via the following web link: https://www.surveys.kpmg.com/mmi/2wHK95C/Link.html

Infomation Posters

Information Posters for the Patron's Survey can be obtained by contacting ALLM via email [email protected] or by contacting KPMG directly.

kitty loves you, and hates brumby.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:57 pm

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:17 pm

nice one brb.

16 views and nobody else?

come ON.

razyier · Post by **razyier** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:25 pm

that's fucked up, did my bit though

FunkyJ · Post by **FunkyJ** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:26 pm

Is Chapel St City of Stonington or City of Yarra?

andy_hoffman · Post by **andy_hoffman** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:27 pm

Done! ROCK OUT GOOD, LOCK OUT BAD!!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:32 pm

be careful when you answer, methinks there could be an agenda between the lines.

funky J > chapel st is city of stonnington im pretty sure

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:52 pm

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:43 pm

Done.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:09 pm

Done.

I agree of being wary of agendas. Remember Bracksy is now a consultant who works for KPMG.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:30 pm

done too

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:34 pm

too done

Post by **lynt** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:48 pm

Also done.

PahMaLa · Post by **PahMaLa** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:09 pm

Filled and submitted.

obliveus · Post by **obliveus** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:16 pm

Finito. Good on ya, Bo.

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:17 pm

Done.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:19 pm

kronz · Post by **kronz** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:30 pm

mrj wrote:
I agree of being wary of agendas. Remember Bracksy is now a consultant who works for KPMG.

It is called IP gathering. This IP will be used by KPMG in their marketing to win government work.

All big firms do this shit, infact i am working on something similar, lol.

Not related to 2am lockouts however.

Go Big Business, asking you if you have a problem, then telling you they can fix it coz they know all about it, LOL

Andy H · Post by **Andy H** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:39 pm

eN · Post by eN » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:13 pm

menace · Post by **menace** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:27 pm

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:51 pm

love doing surveys that was great fun.

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:05 pm

Done, although I wasn't very pleased with the structure of the questions. You just know this information is going to be twisted...

@MILCO@ · Post by **@MILCO@** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:27 pm

done.......... agree with above............ the is some hidden agenda to some of those questions me thinks "shifty as a shit house rat" as they say in the country..........

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:00 am

ulyssian · Post by **ulyssian** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:48 am

Did it too.....
My god we saw the best cop response to some dicks Saturday night... It was amazing.... there needs to be a zero tolerance stance taken against violence..... and they need to get onto the young little hoods kicking around in gangs in outer suburbs terrorizing all ... coz they grow up to be these dicks in the city... IMO.

Oh and TAZERS..... this city needs more fuckin tazers.....

Brumby needs a good tazering!

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:59 am

Forget tazers, they need lazers!

Star Wars stylee cops patrolling the streets IMO.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:55 am

big thanks to all of you who took the time to do this.

i know it could be dodgy, but dammit, we are trying all angles possible.

i am quite certain that
1) they will bring in a blanket 3am lockout
2) a third of our venues will close in the year following
3) there will be more violence on the streets

its really sad too that many venues are doing the 'ignore it and it will go away' tactics too.

the ALLM has not got the support from all the liscensees it should have,
everyone is still not united agaisnt this and that makes me sad.

i have such a utopian hope that revolution is possible if only we all stand together....

but perhaps im just an idealistic hippy really.

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:26 am

Lizkins · Post by **Lizkins** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:41 pm

done and done

Kaiproject · Post by **Kaiproject** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:39 pm

done...

everyone sure as hell should be united against it.

what makes you so sure a blanket ban will come into play ghettokitty?

autumnleaves · Post by **autumnleaves** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:24 am

why is an accounting company doing research like this? shouldn't the fucking government be doing this? no information about how this data will be used.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:47 am

firms like KPMG, PWC, E&Y etc have more than just accounting. Their biggest divisions are accounting, but they also do IT Auditing (ie Project Management, Forensic IT etc), Business Process Reengineering, Risk Management (non financial) yadda yadda yadda.....

for example KPMG have a Government Advisory Service division (in fact quite a large one) that is dedicated to providing services to the Government like this. Pretty much their whole Canberra office works on government projects.

The Government can't do it themselves because they simply don't have the expertise, and results would always be questionable as they would lack objectivity. Government uses many contractors, on everything from Environmental Audits and reviews of EPA work to Accounting firm reviews of Treasury policy.

autumnleaves · Post by **autumnleaves** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:43 am

very informative reply, thanks.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:08 pm

huhuhuhu

for example ernst & young did a reveiw on the ENTIRITY of the operations here at City of Melbourne last year.... was a big job and caused a lot of drama here and in the media.

we also use mercer for a lot of statistics projects.

We have data and are providing information relating to the lockout..... significant down-turn in post 2am pedestrian numbers... I'm not at liberty to really say much else

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:25 pm

Kaiproject wrote: what makes you so sure a blanket ban will come into play ghettokitty?

I hear and know things about this that are not covered in the media and......

deviant wrote: I'm not at liberty to really say much else

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:25 pm

Media Release 3 October 2008

City Safety Summit - ‘Collaboration Is Key’

Today’s City Safety Summit facilitated by the City of Melbourne provided the opportunity to gain the views and potential solutions to late night safety issues and to strengthen relationships to ensure a proactive approach.
The Summit brought together those people in the Melbourne community who make decisions and who influence decisions in a setting that allowed for frank discussions and the tools to map a road forward.
The Lord Mayor John So said that the Summit had provided the opportunity to develop a shared understanding of the issues surrounding late night city safety and had enabled a clear exchange of views.
“This is the first time that so many key stakeholders have assembled like this in Melbourne which demonstrates that people want to take a collaborative approach with regard to this multi-faceted issue.
“While there are no quick fixes with regard to this complex issue, a number of initiatives have been identified and today’s Summit develops and reinforces the next steps in the process toward improving late night safety within our city,” the Lord Mayor said.
Initiatives raised included:
• Developing a high-level coordinating mechanism to report to the Premier on progress in improving safety.
• Convening a Monday morning group to review the weekend outcomes and plan across agencies.
• Reviewing planning to identify gaps and inconsistencies across legislation and policy.
• Developing a strategic entertainment plan for the city.
• Increasing the availability of Night Rider buses and locations of safe taxi ranks
• Improving security and lighting around transport hubs.
• Increasing numbers and visibility of police.
• Increasing consistency of appearance, standards and visibility of security officers in and around venues.
• Ensuring consistency of roles and responsibilities for safety in and around venues
• Developing “safe spaces” to provide support and assistance for young people.
• Developing a community-wide campaign to foster cultural change in our attitude to alcohol and other drugs and violence.
• Consulting with youth to build relationships in order to identify their needs and expectations.
• Building the capabilities of venue management.

A full report will now be provided to all participants to inform and underpin their planning to address this issue.

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:16 pm

Should ban house imo..

make less fights tbh

Spicy · Post by **Spicy** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:24 am

^^ shit post, knobhead.

anyway, what the hell is this i'm hearing about channel7/the sunrise show backing the 2am lockout? my mate just told me he saw them spruiking that crap yesterday morning or something. did anyone see this? pretty disappointing.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:26 pm

Spicy wrote:^^ shit post, knobhead.

thats just petey, mike, hes only half serious

dubstep lovers are pacificts

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:59 pm

Thank you for taking the time to complete this questionnaire.

Your contribution is highly valued.

Spicy · Post by **Spicy** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:55 pm

ghetto kitty wrote: thats just petey, mike, hes only half serious

dubstep lovers are pacificts

haha, ok sorry. noted for future

i am a deep house souldier thru and thru.

anyway my mate was just telling me about this sunrise crap -- there was apparently a phone poll and 90% voted for the lockout. wtf! sunrise sucks but i didn't realise it sucked this hard.

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:46 am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

THE State Government is set to dump its 2am lockout policy but hire hundreds more police to fight alcohol-related crime.

The Government will today ditch its blanket policy of CBD and inner-suburban lockouts in favour of a scaled-down, more strategic system to target rogue pubs and clubs.

A new report by KPMG is believed to have found the 2am lockout trials, which caught hundreds of clubs and pubs in the CBD and inner suburbs in the net, had not worked efficiently.

Instead, the Government has backed a more strategic lockout system where officials will be able to impose limited lockouts designed to clean-up specific problems like violence at a big nightclub.

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:41 am

Awesome!

Zerotonine · Post by **Zerotonine** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:43 am

Goddamn that is good news!

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:45 am

What a sensible outcome.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:21 am

YIPPEEEEEEEEEE

you know, recent events both local and global have me thinking that maybe, just maybe, the people do get listened to now and then...

this outcome is sensible, logical and hopefully implemented to the benefit of community AND buisnesses.

thats a big 'WITNESS' and an 'AMEN' from kitty.

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:22 am

ghetto kitty wrote:YIPPEEEEEEEEEE

you know, recent events both local and global have me thinking that maybe, just maybe, the people do get listened to now and then...

this outcome is sensible, logical and hopefully implemented to the benefit of community AND buisnesses.

thats a big 'WITNESS' and an 'AMEN' from kitty.

+ a lower case :script: from me.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:24 am

aw cmon.

im only yellin cause im excited.

and i just finished my homework

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:34 am

Woh !!

wait.....!

we win ???