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befor the sun fucks off?
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nice idea, dunno bout edinb tho?
if its heard outside park boundaries and some old codger reports it = instant fine
there're prob better spots for a beatbash, parks along the yarra etc..ie flockhart st subbass had a couple there and ive done a cpl there

unless you just mean a chilled bbq thing


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ive done a couple of partys there and we have had no probs, your aloud to make noise there til 10pm... food n frisbys n dogs n balls n stuff not so ravey.
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we (heavy innit) would get involved in this if we were invited ;)
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i would be so up for this. lending a hand if needed and attending :)
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cool, me and luke remedy used to do em next to the bowl,theres a power point on the outside of that hut.... ssshhh
Baddums wrote:we (heavy innit) would get involved in this if we were invited ;)
fuck yeah, now all we need is a little system... think the sub-bass one would be overkill.

last one i did the police came and said just make sure you stop at ten, there was a court case a few years ago and 10 was the time they decided on, or sum shit...
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heh.. there is indeed an old guy that cracks the shits...

Completely understandable though.
If you live near the gardens... pretty much every weekend in Summer some munters are having a bash there... you'd get very fed up with that shit every-bloody-weekend.

The one time I actually hung about and played some jungle/d&b there a couple of years ago... the guy came over (cause we had a fairly fat lil system).. and explained that his house, for some reason resonates with the specific bass sounds.
Poor bastard... I told him to try opening and shutting certain doors or windows to try and find a way to disturb the resonance.

I think the rule of thumb of audio limits during the day is if the complainant has to raise their voices to be heard in conversation at their house.
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last two time ive been down, no complaints... lets call it a picnic, with decks and a lil system...
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I'll bring my kids. What's the date???

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all i have is songs and a dog, can bring food and bbq, lil system anyone? i have decks but they are vestax and freak people out...

sub sonic commune perhaps...
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spin wrote: fuck yeah, now all we need is a little system... think the sub-bass one would be overkill.
Sub-Bass also have a smaller system. The one they used at their first Halloween park party
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the sub-bass chaps are my neighbors, will pop over tonight...
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the local law makes it "illegal without a permit" if it can be heard outside of the park boundaries

that includes bass that you cant hear outdoors but resonate in the house...

the local law came in about 1 year ago i think?
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spin wrote:food n frisbys n dogs n balls n stuff not so ravey.
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FoundationStepper wrote:the local law makes it "illegal without a permit" if it can be heard outside of the park boundaries

that includes bass that you cant hear outdoors but resonate in the house...

the local law came in about 1 year ago i think?
yeah thats what i meant by fine if heard outside park boundaries, regardless of the time i think
sucks. but yeah just do a soundcheck n not have ittoo loud
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shoot for the moon and turn it down it you're asked to i reckon...

a saturday would be great for this
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Baddums wrote:shoot for the moon and turn it down it you're asked to i reckon...
thats the sort of thing that kind of lead to the local law coming in...
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i has a dog.

we like ze park.
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spin wrote: last one i did the police came and said just make sure you stop at ten, there was a court case a few years ago and 10 was the time they decided on, or sum shit...
10 is the time most council bylaws go by for noise restriction
any citizen in Vic is legally entitled to call the police and make a noise complaint after 10
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spin wrote:all i have is songs and a dog, can bring food and bbq, lil system anyone? i have decks but they are vestax and freak people out...

sub sonic commune perhaps...
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so I guess a small party without amplified music in your only chance as far as Edinburgh gardens go.

Personally I'm f^&ked off with this city and all its bylaws. Ok its a nice city to live in and I have a better life style here compared to where I originate from, but really you can't do shit here. The local scene, especially non commercial music scenes are only half represented and have no room to grow due to serious lack of venue space where we can play music at a substantial volume and all night if we choose.

apart from a small venue in the city we (heartical HiFi) have no where to play and As well as Dub and Reggae music, we want to continue to support the development of other bass music genres such as dubstep and DnB etc but simply cant find a venue we can take our soundsystem into and forward the music proper instead of playing it on some half arsed house PA. We dont want this small club to be the limit of what we've set out to achieve. Sometimes I feel Ive settled in the wrong country. rant rant winge winge Melbourne is shit.
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d, the same (state) standards for music noise from pubs have been in place since 1989 - a club can build for big systems but most dont think too. although we have a major problem of residents being built next door to existing venues, i blame the venues as much for not thinking about noise control at all when setting up. its not like there aren't any with money to splash around
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shabana wrote:10 is the time most council bylaws go by for noise restriction
any citizen in Vic is legally entitled to call the police and make a noise complaint after 10
the 10pm time is to do with the Residential Noise Regs in place by the EPA (11 fri/sat) - not to do with noise from parks etc. residents can complain any time of day though, because noise can be considered unreasonable during the day/evening
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last 2 partys i have done police came and said make sure you stop by ten. done, we stopped, no trouble... but mix cds and a boombox also fun with no drama...
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its a pretty reasonable timeframe but im not sure (apart from local laws) where the legal basis for it come from - not to say it isnt there. if its at your home then there is definitely a law for it though, from EPA
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Subbass has a large (ish) bass rig that they blasted from 8pm on a saturday night until about 10am Sunday..... the cops came at 11:30 and said "as long as there's not trouble or complaints it's fine".... "but if we have to come back....." They didn't come back...

This was not edinburgh gardens however... it was here..

this area seams to be quite far away from any residences :) maybe we should consider doing something there?
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Maximum penalty for such things (e.g. breaching a police order on late night noise in a park) could be quite massive - around $60,000 max, proven in court.

A PIN (on spot fine) is around $1200
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^^ yeah, but the main point is.... edinburgh gardens receives heaps of complaints... This park does not... why would they go through all the trouble of prosecuting a bunch of ravers if there's no complaints?
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they wouldn't and cant if there isn't a complainant. I'm just being particualr becuase, well its my dayjob to know this stuff :p
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deviant wrote: This was not edinburgh gardens however... it was here..
had one there the week after subbass with a standard jbl eon system + 3 subs (one double 12).

prob started too early during the day cos we had a council guy come round saying they'd had a resident complain he couldn't hear his channel 7 news or some shit. he said stuff like 'this is where these kind of things should be, there's no sign saying you can't play music, there should be facilities like toilets etc etc..'

so he seemed like a decent bloke, just requested we turn the system around to face victoria st instead of the yarra (resident somewhere on the other side, we had been facing it north but the bass mustve reached walmer street or something). but he also requested we 'didn't go all night like the guys the week before as thats what the resident was worried about'.

so someone stupidly said 'yeah we'll probably only go til midnight'. councillor took his word for it, and took my mates name/number. we thought 'meh, sif we'll finish that early stuff it' but the dude called up later and threatened a court order etc if we didn't... my mate would've copped a $500 fine no worries, but more worried about his system getting taken away, or something of the $60k variety mentioned above


in short: yeah its fine as long as no residents complain (if we had started later at night rather than during the day sure council wouldn't have come down, but the cops wouldve), but you'd probably have to do soundchecks from diff streets to be sure of it. cunts.
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yeah, how dare they want to be able to able to enjoy the use of their home, including being able to sleep at a reasonable hour, and not have weekly interference of pounding bass that they cant escape in their home. obviously the resident's have some sort of anti-social mental problem right
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anyway, turing the system round aint going to do anything for the bass...
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That's really interesting..... so, the subbass gig really did have implications....

their system was fecking loud though... they had it faced west btw.
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cassettes and potatoe salad ftw
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its cold already you cunts.
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maybe we should start planning for next year?
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