The Mac vs PC Thread #483468
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linux? bite your tongue. Mac OS X is based on BSD. that is, real UNIX.lynt wrote:Oh and system, can you fill me in on the linux environment MacOX runs on ... ie: what can she do? Should I bookmark freshmeat.net for example?
you can run it as a X-Windows, SAMBA, HTTP, FTP, SSH, etc, etc server as needed. basically, anything you can do on a *NIX box can pretty much be done. all the interface with the *NIX layer is generally done via the Terminal application.
check the developer sites on Apple if you want (for more info on the kernel, etc).
otherwise all you'd need to do if you want *NIX wise apps, etc would be install Fink (which can grab any ported/native packages for the Mach kernel) and maybe a few other bits and bobs.
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DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
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not really and they're the same thing (resellers/AppleCentres).lynt wrote:I guess Mac resellers would be cheaper then Mac shops?
currently (soon to change though) the only Mac shops in Australia live at www.apple.com.au/store ..
Apple don't give the resellers much margin anyway.
DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
you'll get more bang for your buck with a pc. for live use you'd be better of dead than dragging a windows pc on stage. Apple for stability, pc for cheap.
http://www2.compnow.com.au/ - has good refurbished mac's[/url]
http://www2.compnow.com.au/ - has good refurbished mac's[/url]
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same. (and Logic 7 is the first music related purchase) and that's after 20 years of running Macs.Stamina MC wrote:Regularly purported mistruth. In five years of owning a Mac I've only bought ONE piece of software. Logic 6. And I'm wanting for nothing else, trust me...fents wrote:^^ Just get a MAC, u know u want it, and until u've tried it u'll never know....
And then u can PAY Mega $$$$ for all ur software
back into yer box F1!
DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
The site every mac owner should have in their bookmarks
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html
It even works for a dummy like me!
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html
It even works for a dummy like me!
this is so true.Stamina MC wrote:Regularly purported mistruth. In five years of owning a Mac I've only bought ONE piece of software. Logic 6. And I'm wanting for nothing else, trust me...fents wrote:^^ Just get a MAC, u know u want it, and until u've tried it u'll never know....
And then u can PAY Mega $$$$ for all ur software
ive got a mac now and i havent paid for one thing yet, and ive got logic 7(express mind you)
im bought a g5 from david jones over a year ago (be sure to go there and check it out 18months intrest free!) and they have to match any price u get anywhere else...
plus if u've got easier access to pc programs you can get virtual pc for mac which means u can be runnin windowns on the mac if u want and still use all ur cracked plugins etc...
plus if u've got easier access to pc programs you can get virtual pc for mac which means u can be runnin windowns on the mac if u want and still use all ur cracked plugins etc...
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argue about computers, thats what the mfr's want you to do..
1040STE running Notator with Unitor2 - no problems.
i cant believe you macintosh homosexuals now have the rights to logic.
i cant believe you macintosh homosexuals now have the rights to logic.
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fuck man, that's rough.lynt wrote:mac still on its way.
who'd you order the box through? online or a store?
no good for audio mate. emulators aren't designed for that shizzle and run at 70-80% speed at best.safire wrote:plus if u've got easier access to pc programs you can get virtual pc for mac which means u can be runnin windowns on the mac if u want and still use all ur cracked plugins etc...
well - emagic developed it for the Mac OS platform first, so stick that in yer Steinberg.wobbulator wrote: cant believe you macintosh homosexuals now have the rights to logic.
shit was inevitable.
DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
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Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote:i got an athlon64 yesty. will get back to yaz once i can get xp to install.
i'm sure your smart enough to know you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame awayAg3nT[]0raNg3 wrote: i think it should be good once i figure out what is making it reboot at the welcome screen.
so where did ya get your cracked copy from AO?
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dunno where you heard that from man!Rob M wrote:Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote:i got an athlon64 yesty. will get back to yaz once i can get xp to install.i'm sure your smart enough to know you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame awayAg3nT[]0raNg3 wrote: i think it should be good once i figure out what is making it reboot at the welcome screen.
so where did ya get your cracked copy from AO?
XP works fine on the 64's. twas my dodgy generic RAM that was fucking with it. whacked some Corsair modules in it and its fucken sweeet.
XP 64bit is all over the net in beta at the moment anyway. not gunna do that just yet.
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Music and Audio Maestro
With the Power Mac G5, music and audio pros have even more power at their fingertips to compose, record, edit, mix and perform. PowerPC G5 processors effortlessly synthesize instruments and apply effects, and up to 8GB of memory provides ample room to compose using an unprecedented number of tracks. The built-in optical digital and analog audio ports support new and legacy hardware, and FireWire and USB support connections to virtually any audio, MIDI and storage device. Fast PCI-X provides expansion options for digital signal processing hardware and external storage. Mac OS X with Core Audio can run several applications simultaneously, while Audio Units provide a robust plug-in protocol designed to work seamlessly across Audio Units host applications. And with state-of-the-art applications like Apple’s Logic Pro and Soundtrack, Digidesign Pro Tools, MOTU Digital Performer and Steinberg Cubase SX and Nuendo, you have a wealth of innovative software to capture your inspiration.
Over Four Times The Plug-ins As Pentium 4
To quantify the performance advantages of the Power Mac G5 for audio production, Apple tested Logic Pro 6.4.1. The Dell Dimension XPS, Dell Precision 650 and Alienware Aurora were tested using Steinberg Cubase SX 2.0.1. Apple created a processor-intensive workload containing multiple unique audio tracks, assigned five default reverb plug-ins to each audio track and tested each platform to see which application could play more plug-ins.
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it'll have to be backwards compatible for at least 2-3 years, if not longer.Rob M wrote:you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame away
case in point: I have the box that I'm typing this out on running Mac OS X (10.3), which is a 32-bit OS running on a G5 (64-bit CPU); next to me I also have a G4 (32-bit CPU) running a beta of Mac OS X (10.4), which is a 64-bit OS.
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‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
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m-audio retard department
Answer: not having fun, it is annoying clearing up mistakes retards like you make.system wrote:right. how ironic. have fun.wobbulator wrote:who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.
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Re: m-audio retard department
wobbulator wrote:Answer: not having fun, it is annoying clearing up mistakes retards like you make.system wrote:right. how ironic. have fun.wobbulator wrote:who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.
DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.
Couldn't access your link but yes you can replace the DVD drive and it's dead easy !! For full instructions and reports etc. go to www.xlr8yourmac.comandycole23_steve wrote:yerp. i was wanting to replace it with a faster drive thats cheaper......just unsure about compatabilitiesSpecial Hegg wrote:Can you actually get it without the superdrive?
[I put a pioneer in my very ancient G3 in 20mins. !!]
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absolutely correct. it ain't 1996 any more (that fucking Christ).lynt wrote:speakin to a mac user, he said the ram is all cross platform, the harddrives all run on SATA (so any SATA drive will work) and most other parts you can add yourself from any pc supplier.
anyone verify this?
make sure you buy a decent brand though, like Kingston, etc.
Apple buy RAM from the same manufacturers as all the others, same as hard disk drives. no point paying a premium if you know your parts and how to install them.Dark Lord Piddle Bottom wrote:yes BUT you should get the top of the line ram from MAC since that’s what the systems are designed for. That is if you want your Mac to perform. Video cards need to be supported under OSX so you don't have the range as with PC. Not sure about hard drives.
video cards are indeed a very different story, even under Mac OS X, and should be approached with knowledge and significant caution.
DRS wrote:It’s uplifting while we drift through time,
‘cause we keep pushing the vibe.