hearing protection
- unsoundbwoy
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hearing protection
today's age has an article linking rising hearing damage with the rise of MP3 players
http://www.theage.com.au/news/digital-m ... 93761.html
i was wondering, seeing as everyone here must listen to a lot of music, what sort of precautions do you take to protect yourself?
I never wear inner ear buds, only headphones and if im going out, i always take my own earplugs, I got the ones called hearos, they're about $30 or $40 from allans in the city and work so well, they clear out heaps of the ringing and mudiness that you get in clubs, the bass sounds tighter, you can hear people close to you talking and you leave the club with hearing intact
http://hearos.com/products-00211.htm
http://www.theage.com.au/news/digital-m ... 93761.html
i was wondering, seeing as everyone here must listen to a lot of music, what sort of precautions do you take to protect yourself?
I never wear inner ear buds, only headphones and if im going out, i always take my own earplugs, I got the ones called hearos, they're about $30 or $40 from allans in the city and work so well, they clear out heaps of the ringing and mudiness that you get in clubs, the bass sounds tighter, you can hear people close to you talking and you leave the club with hearing intact
http://hearos.com/products-00211.htm
Get proper plugs. I've got some, definately worth the $200 I spent on them. There's an old thread somewhere around that's discussed this before.
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- unsoundbwoy
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i know, i think i might have started it. but i think its an important topic that should come up regularly. keep us vigilant. the drugs do enough we should at least look after our hearingmarcus wrote:Get proper plugs. I've got some, definately worth the $200 I spent on them. There's an old thread somewhere around that's discussed this before.
- unsoundbwoy
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yup
if you want technical blaaa blaa
go here
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document ... 595&g=live
and
http://hearos.com/products-00211.htm
if you want technical blaaa blaa
go here
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document ... 595&g=live
and
http://hearos.com/products-00211.htm
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- unsoundbwoy
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I got a pair of those Hearos as well (thanks for the tip Garth) and they've been great. Maybe I could get moulded ones but I'd be too worried about losing them or stepping on them.
Besides, I find some earplugs can move about when your jaw moves. The resulting bursts of sound are super annoying. At least the Hearos are flexible.
Besides, I find some earplugs can move about when your jaw moves. The resulting bursts of sound are super annoying. At least the Hearos are flexible.
Jaw moving too much!? maybe they weren't designed for use with pingaz... heheSpecial Hegg wrote:I find some earplugs can move about when your jaw moves.
by the way those earplugs are good... only shit when you find yourself at a shit pub without then an accidentally fuck your ears over listening to music you don't even like...
- FoundationStepper
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it is essential
no if or buts
as for the artcle
"Because the sound is digital, listeners can crank it up louder without the distortion faced by previous technologies."
yes and no - not really true - the volume capacities are determined by the analogue stages anyhow
"And because MP3 players can store hours and hours of music, users can listen all day without stopping - producing an unending barrage of sound.
At least with older audio devices such as portable compact disc players, the listener had to stop and change the CD or restart it."
very important... every 3dB inrease in sound is a doubling in energy. this means a halving of alowed time for listening
85 dB ok for 8 hours
88 dB for 4 hours
91 for 2 hours
94 for 1 hour
97 for 1/2 hour
100 for 25 mins
103 for 15 mins
....
average nightclub - 95-115 dB (A)
not long before permanent (but subtle) damage is caused...
i kick started interesting discussion on this topic on another forum...
http://www.ragga-jungle.com/viewtopic.php?t=9851
no if or buts
as for the artcle
"Because the sound is digital, listeners can crank it up louder without the distortion faced by previous technologies."
yes and no - not really true - the volume capacities are determined by the analogue stages anyhow
"And because MP3 players can store hours and hours of music, users can listen all day without stopping - producing an unending barrage of sound.
At least with older audio devices such as portable compact disc players, the listener had to stop and change the CD or restart it."
very important... every 3dB inrease in sound is a doubling in energy. this means a halving of alowed time for listening
85 dB ok for 8 hours
88 dB for 4 hours
91 for 2 hours
94 for 1 hour
97 for 1/2 hour
100 for 25 mins
103 for 15 mins
....
average nightclub - 95-115 dB (A)
not long before permanent (but subtle) damage is caused...
i kick started interesting discussion on this topic on another forum...
http://www.ragga-jungle.com/viewtopic.php?t=9851
croaking lizard... jungletasticdubcorebadness (brap brap)
surface resonance... sound and vibration arts (buzz hum)
surface resonance... sound and vibration arts (buzz hum)
I knew you'd come up with the technical goods Foundation Stepper. It's kinda frightening, considering most gigs I go to I'm sans plugs and tend to be drawn to the speakers
My sister's boyfriend is semi-deaf and his Mum is totally deaf. I've been trying to learn some sign language so I can converse. I hope it won't be my only means of communication when I'm old
My sister's boyfriend is semi-deaf and his Mum is totally deaf. I've been trying to learn some sign language so I can converse. I hope it won't be my only means of communication when I'm old
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on the other hand
-6dB for every doubling of diatance from the stack
so 115dB at the front (say 5m from the stack)
109dB 10m back
103dB 20m back
mind you there is summing (adding) when you are in point of range of more than one set of speakers
but also the scarey thing
say the font of the crownd (5m back) is getting 115dB
2.5m from the stack 121dB
1 from stack (standing next to the speakers - we have al done it id think) 127dB. that is fing loud
basically, big changes in level over small distances, when close to the source of sound. so 5 to 3 metres is much loudness differnce. but the diff between 20 and 23 metres for eg is insubstantial.
another good way to avoid damage is standing "off axis" from the PA
PA speakers "throw" usually in a 90 degree horizontal pattern. there is a sharp drop off in level (high freency level that is) when you stand off axis from that spread. works well at the prince, remember doing that for amon tobin last time... still enjoyed clarity but much less full on
-6dB for every doubling of diatance from the stack
so 115dB at the front (say 5m from the stack)
109dB 10m back
103dB 20m back
mind you there is summing (adding) when you are in point of range of more than one set of speakers
but also the scarey thing
say the font of the crownd (5m back) is getting 115dB
2.5m from the stack 121dB
1 from stack (standing next to the speakers - we have al done it id think) 127dB. that is fing loud
basically, big changes in level over small distances, when close to the source of sound. so 5 to 3 metres is much loudness differnce. but the diff between 20 and 23 metres for eg is insubstantial.
another good way to avoid damage is standing "off axis" from the PA
PA speakers "throw" usually in a 90 degree horizontal pattern. there is a sharp drop off in level (high freency level that is) when you stand off axis from that spread. works well at the prince, remember doing that for amon tobin last time... still enjoyed clarity but much less full on
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surface resonance... sound and vibration arts (buzz hum)
surface resonance... sound and vibration arts (buzz hum)
- unsoundbwoy
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:nangs:downtime wrote:Jaw moving too much!? maybe they weren't designed for use with pingaz... heheSpecial Hegg wrote:I find some earplugs can move about when your jaw moves.
by the way those earplugs are good... only shit when you find yourself at a shit pub without then an accidentally fuck your ears over listening to music you don't even like...
BAM!! Good call Sustain...Sustain wrote::nangs:downtime wrote:Jaw moving too much!? maybe they weren't designed for use with pingaz... heheSpecial Hegg wrote:I find some earplugs can move about when your jaw moves.
by the way those earplugs are good... only shit when you find yourself at a shit pub without then an accidentally fuck your ears over listening to music you don't even like...
Only the meek get pinched...the bold survive
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