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- ghetto kitty
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apparently its 60k base but 100k if you reach targets.shepherd wrote: I would check the salary to be honest - I know what sales exec/GSMs/account managers etc in digital get and most ppl with a base salary around $100k have 5+ years experience and are managing/directing revenues around 20-30m per annum
and apparently you get points for making a call, points for maknig an appointment, so its not all make-sale-to-keep-job etc etc
my first phone interview is tommorrow morning.
the friend who referred me is excited and KEEN, and im wondering what the commission on recruitment is?!
hmmm. big hmmm.
oh that does sound cool.witty_pseudonym wrote:i'm applying for a job as a Tracing Administrator at the Red Cross. would be farken amazing. reconnecting families torn apart by war and disaster. so up my alley!
crossing everything.
lol when I first read it I was all like tracing adminsitrator?? like copying other peoples drawings and shit?
do they use tracing paper?
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yup. far fetched maybe, but i hold some hope for revolution, of the non technological kind.system wrote:BZZZZRTTtrtt __________________________________________jbs wrote:???'one electromagnetic pulse weapon and the internet is history"
phone interview was okay, was completely honest and told them id never 'sold' any advertising before...dont see the point in glossing over my experience....
kind of repeated myself as you do in interviews.
ill hear back next week...
still dont know if i want the job, but it seems i will have to give notice if im to go on the 'boot camp' in mid july.
hrmmm. still hrrm.
Anyone interested in working on the radio?
I'm at Nova 100 at the mo working as the audio producer for the breakfast show, but I'll be heading back to the UK in september so my job will be up for grabs.
It basically involes producing all intros and promos for the show as well as any other bits of audio they might use.
The hours are pretty full on (start at 5.45) but you gat to have the arvo off everyday which I find quite sweet.
You do have to deal with pretty terrible chart music and the 'talent' too, but it's much better that a shitty desk job I say.
I expect they'll ony be interested in someone who has a previous knowledge of radio production but it could be worth a try if your keyed up on music producion too. If your keen give me a shout and I'll send you more deets.
Cheers,
Rog
I'm at Nova 100 at the mo working as the audio producer for the breakfast show, but I'll be heading back to the UK in september so my job will be up for grabs.
It basically involes producing all intros and promos for the show as well as any other bits of audio they might use.
The hours are pretty full on (start at 5.45) but you gat to have the arvo off everyday which I find quite sweet.
You do have to deal with pretty terrible chart music and the 'talent' too, but it's much better that a shitty desk job I say.
I expect they'll ony be interested in someone who has a previous knowledge of radio production but it could be worth a try if your keyed up on music producion too. If your keen give me a shout and I'll send you more deets.
Cheers,
Rog
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got a reception job going at my work. the position also includes some administrative duties nothing too hard tho lol.
lemme know asap!
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- Charlie73
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I am nervous about a promotion interview into the accounts dept today..
eeek
in my last fortnightly meeting with the boss i expressed my worry that what i was emplyed for was not happening now and i was going to be stuck on reception for ever.... A possi came up and they are hoping to pop me in...
YAY also means i will now go back to night school and get the Advanced Dip from RMIT....
eeek
in my last fortnightly meeting with the boss i expressed my worry that what i was emplyed for was not happening now and i was going to be stuck on reception for ever.... A possi came up and they are hoping to pop me in...
YAY also means i will now go back to night school and get the Advanced Dip from RMIT....
- ghetto kitty
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Why you leaving clubs, GK??ghetto kitty wrote:1st interview all good, they rang back a couple hours later.
aptitude test > passed.
third and final interview this friday.
role playing, selling kitty, scary!
still not sure bout the jump from nigthtclubs to SEM tho.
I wanted to be a hero. I wanted to be the center of attention. I wanted the glory, I wanted the fame. I wanted the pretty girls to come up and say, "Hi, I see that you're good at Centipede."
- ghetto kitty
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because the role i take in clubs is limited.
i do not do graphic design.
i do not play music.
i am an advertising and marketing whizz who can take any event and make it work,
but im not a jack-of-all-clubs who can jump from decks to desk to lighting rig with ease. and only the big clubs, and not many of them, need someone like me.
plus, im tired of going out obligations. i want to go out to party.
plus, this 2am thing is making what im good at, really really hard.
i do not do graphic design.
i do not play music.
i am an advertising and marketing whizz who can take any event and make it work,
but im not a jack-of-all-clubs who can jump from decks to desk to lighting rig with ease. and only the big clubs, and not many of them, need someone like me.
plus, im tired of going out obligations. i want to go out to party.
plus, this 2am thing is making what im good at, really really hard.
- ghetto kitty
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You are artistic, no??ghetto kitty wrote:because the role i take in clubs is limited.
i do not do graphic design.
i do not play music.
i am an advertising and marketing whizz who can take any event and make it work,
but im not a jack-of-all-clubs who can jump from decks to desk to lighting rig with ease. and only the big clubs, and not many of them, need someone like me.
plus, im tired of going out obligations. i want to go out to party.
plus, this 2am thing is making what im good at, really really hard.
Not interested in pursuing graphic design... putting more arrows in your quiver??
I wanted to be a hero. I wanted to be the center of attention. I wanted the glory, I wanted the fame. I wanted the pretty girls to come up and say, "Hi, I see that you're good at Centipede."
- ghetto kitty
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yes i am artistic...
but am more of the ideas, implementation and low fi side of things..
id have to go back to school to do graphic design, i still send my avatars to stray for help resizing!!!
so yes, im up for more arrows in my quiver, but i think marketing is my forte so im looking at other options in that field...
still not sure if im biting off more than i can chew.
but am more of the ideas, implementation and low fi side of things..
id have to go back to school to do graphic design, i still send my avatars to stray for help resizing!!!
so yes, im up for more arrows in my quiver, but i think marketing is my forte so im looking at other options in that field...
still not sure if im biting off more than i can chew.
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hahaha, you've learnt the speel already
waste = spend thousands of dollars and get absolutely NO response
I did it for several months and qualified every caller. How many do ya reckon found me through Google?
ONE, and the job never went ahead.
Now I'm sure a sales rep will put some kind of positive spin on that, but when it comes down to it I spent thousands to get nothing
I have since tinkered with one of the pages on my site and it now shows up as # 1 with certain keywords. Now I just have to figure out how to make the same thing happen on teh rest of the pages
waste = spend thousands of dollars and get absolutely NO response
I did it for several months and qualified every caller. How many do ya reckon found me through Google?
ONE, and the job never went ahead.
Now I'm sure a sales rep will put some kind of positive spin on that, but when it comes down to it I spent thousands to get nothing
I have since tinkered with one of the pages on my site and it now shows up as # 1 with certain keywords. Now I just have to figure out how to make the same thing happen on teh rest of the pages
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- ghetto kitty
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no i havent learnt the spiel. well, i am learning it now for my role playing thing interview thing on friday.
i know fuck all about it and am skeptical as hell.
they said at first, 'you only pay for what happens, as you go'
then they say 'campaigns start at $1500 a month"
they also say that this particular company has technology for reporting and tracking that nobody else in the world has!
my friedns whos donig it is still amped, and told me if i get offered the job, i should take it all any cost.
cost at this point looks like not being able to give enough notice here,
and succumbing to the jaws of the beast and 'sellling'
i jsut hope it isnt 'selling' of the kind your talknig about, as in, pulling wool over eyes, especially of small buisness owners like you BRB.
but maybe all sales are like that.
company started three years ago, now biggest worldwide local SEM company.
im told these things.
i dont know what to believe.
shep?
i know fuck all about it and am skeptical as hell.
they said at first, 'you only pay for what happens, as you go'
then they say 'campaigns start at $1500 a month"
they also say that this particular company has technology for reporting and tracking that nobody else in the world has!
my friedns whos donig it is still amped, and told me if i get offered the job, i should take it all any cost.
cost at this point looks like not being able to give enough notice here,
and succumbing to the jaws of the beast and 'sellling'
i jsut hope it isnt 'selling' of the kind your talknig about, as in, pulling wool over eyes, especially of small buisness owners like you BRB.
but maybe all sales are like that.
company started three years ago, now biggest worldwide local SEM company.
im told these things.
i dont know what to believe.
shep?
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im an expert at adwords!!
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many people would be suprised how many people they know have worked for abby winters.
a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.
a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.
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Marshal's Corp. is now hiring! Dare to earn more and in next to
no time! We now need people willing to take up a position of
the Financial Assistant to help out with the remittance of the funds from company's clients worldwide.
As the business is being run on the large scales we lose a lot
by disbursing taxes, that's why we need you to interchange the amounts
and help us at least to reduce the tax burden. Your personal proceeds in this
case would be 5%-7% out of every transaction operation which is on the
regular basis equal to around 2500$ a month.
Besides we offer:
- Flexible schedule (6 hours a week)
- Saturdays & Sundays off
Requirements:
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Please, use only mentioned address! Failure in doing so might result in our inability to get your response.
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I'm sure you already know this, but, it's structured in a way that you pay per click and you also nominate how much you think each particular keyword is worth. Your ranking is then decided by the highest 'bidder' for each keyword.shepherd wrote:google's role in the advertising space is to bring you qualified traffic based on keywords you decide. it's up to you how you convert this traffic to revenue. was it more a case of 'wasted' opportunity?breaksRbest wrote:I did that and wasted THOUSANDS of dollars
The amount of money required for a small business to even make a dent (i.e $1500 a month as Kitty has stated) just isn't in their budget
If I wasted that opportunity (and a stack of $$$) then I'd love some advice on how I coulda made it work.
Although, I still think my money would be best spent elsewhere
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brb - i think the key to nailing google adwords is making sure your site is optimised to convert traffic. one thing i know is google delivers traffic - and if your keywords and optimisation strategy is right they are pretty qualified.
issues can happen with budget churn if ...
- you buy high demand generic keywords that have high search volumes and your max. bid is too high
- your site has a low quality score
- there are issues with load time, drop off etc on your end
google lead generation will generally be online ... i don't think it really adds to inbound call volume ... and even so most people when asked how they heard about your business say it was traditional media.
short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.
kitty - i'm not sure what their definition of biggest worldwide local SEM company is. Effectively the largest SEM company in the world is google - as they are the vendor ... but truth be told, this area of SEM(ie onsellers) is new to Australia.
in terms of technology - who knows - most companies have their own propietary technology. Something like this must have some sort of self optimising bidding technology.
Things that stick out to me as warning signs
- the company has no real point of difference. it onsells media on another platform ... low barriers to competitor entry. Fairfax and MelbourneIt have an offering like this, same with countless other companies
- the $1500 minimum spend will be a big ask for the market they are aiming at.
- small rats and mice advertisers (ie small sole trader, SME spenders) are high maintenance ... so they better have a good CRM backend or at least customer service otherwise the negative word of mouth could be deadly.
issues can happen with budget churn if ...
- you buy high demand generic keywords that have high search volumes and your max. bid is too high
- your site has a low quality score
- there are issues with load time, drop off etc on your end
google lead generation will generally be online ... i don't think it really adds to inbound call volume ... and even so most people when asked how they heard about your business say it was traditional media.
short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.
kitty - i'm not sure what their definition of biggest worldwide local SEM company is. Effectively the largest SEM company in the world is google - as they are the vendor ... but truth be told, this area of SEM(ie onsellers) is new to Australia.
in terms of technology - who knows - most companies have their own propietary technology. Something like this must have some sort of self optimising bidding technology.
Things that stick out to me as warning signs
- the company has no real point of difference. it onsells media on another platform ... low barriers to competitor entry. Fairfax and MelbourneIt have an offering like this, same with countless other companies
- the $1500 minimum spend will be a big ask for the market they are aiming at.
- small rats and mice advertisers (ie small sole trader, SME spenders) are high maintenance ... so they better have a good CRM backend or at least customer service otherwise the negative word of mouth could be deadly.
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shepherd wrote:short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.
yeah that was a major problem, and the fact that my website apparently sucks
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- Charlie73
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AH... has S left THAT company???mrj wrote:many people would be suprised how many people they know have worked for abby winters.
a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.
I have to say that same company was a great stepping stone for my career as well.....
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they say they have 'revolutionary technology' when it comes to the tracking and reporting side of things, automatic optimization of the campaign as each click registers etc.shepherd wrote: Things that stick out to me as warning signs
- the company has no real point of difference. it onsells media on another platform ... low barriers to competitor entry. Fairfax and MelbourneIt have an offering like this, same with countless other companies
but I dont know enough about the bidding process and the technology required to even ask any educated questions of them!
this factor worries me.- the $1500 minimum spend will be a big ask for the market they are aiming at.
i understand that plenty of buisnesses spend that much on print media monthly, but that is tangible, it is something they can see and understand..
they have ten key areas they are targeting, like, animals (vets etc), functions, lawyers, dentists etc
plus, if its pay as you go, then why ask for a commitment of $1500?
I mean, i understand that the more you spend the more youll see results, but I feel many buisnesses just wont even commit to that for one month.
high maintenance for the SEM company?- small rats and mice advertisers (ie small sole trader, SME spenders) are high maintenance ... so they better have a good CRM backend or at least customer service otherwise the negative word of mouth could be deadly.
i dont quite get what you mean here...
if they dont have the right customer feedback system then the SEM marketing wont grow the buisness at all casue of the bad WOM?
i also went to their USA site and they really DONT give you all the info you need to understand what they do for your buisness.
hrmmmm still.
kitty - issue re the 1500 is that it goes against the idea that search SEM is scaleable ... ie self funding and easy to test/learn/evolve. $1500 is a barrier to entry to a SME with limited cash flow.
In terms of CRM - I mean ReachLocal. How are they equipped to service customers (ie those who have signed up) who
- aren't getting sales
- can't track results
- need to stop/start/pause campaigns
- want daily reports etc
- want to optimise keywords
All important elements in the mix. Plus, they need to make sure their team is skilled and trained on how the google bid system works, qual scores, managing accounts etc etc etc
In terms of CRM - I mean ReachLocal. How are they equipped to service customers (ie those who have signed up) who
- aren't getting sales
- can't track results
- need to stop/start/pause campaigns
- want daily reports etc
- want to optimise keywords
All important elements in the mix. Plus, they need to make sure their team is skilled and trained on how the google bid system works, qual scores, managing accounts etc etc etc
- ghetto kitty
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are there other companies that do not put a minimum limit on the spend for SEM?shepherd wrote:kitty - issue re the 1500 is that it goes against the idea that search SEM is scaleable ... ie self funding and easy to test/learn/evolve. $1500 is a barrier to entry to a SME with limited cash flow.
why put that limit if thier main targets are SMALL buisnesses?? just to make it worth thier time or what?
as far as i can tell at this point, the results are tracked better, more concisely, than any of the other companies who do SEM.In terms of CRM - I mean ReachLocal. How are they equipped to service customers (ie those who have signed up) who
- aren't getting sales
- can't track results
- need to stop/start/pause campaigns
- want daily reports etc
- want to optimise keywords
All important elements in the mix. Plus, they need to make sure their team is skilled and trained on how the google bid system works, qual scores, managing accounts etc etc etc
they can get daily reports, see how many calls, clicks, coupons etc
and their keywords are optimized automatically using the program they have that is patent pending...
apparently nobody really understands the google bid system etc until they go on the week long boot camp...
and then they all sound evangalist about it.
do you think i should ask them about the reason for the minimum spend?
also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
would you suggest that this might be a good natural progression for me, knowing what you do about my job now??
the protesting anarchist freak inside is frightened of working for the 'beast'
but the exit from nightclubs as employment is exciting.
yes you shouldghetto kitty wrote:d o you think i should ask them about the reason for the minimum spend?
no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
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I mean what happens for the customer, if the program/platform doesnt work.deviant wrote:no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
not what happens if I dont get sales.
ghetto kitty wrote:I mean what happens for the customer, if the program/platform doesnt work.deviant wrote:no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
not what happens if I dont get sales.
Its not your fault if you direct traffic to the client and they fail to capitalise on it.