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Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:44 pm

a friend of mine is about to open a bar up on Johnston st I think - I'll find out what they're doing with staff for you and let you know

or can maybe get a hook up at Riverland in the city.

will try both for you

cha_chaos · Post by **cha_chaos** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:50 pm

thanks hun, much appreciated ^_^

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:53 pm

i'm applying for a job as a Tracing Administrator at the Red Cross. would be farken amazing. reconnecting families torn apart by war and disaster. so up my alley!

crossing everything.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:48 pm

shepherd wrote: I would check the salary to be honest - I know what sales exec/GSMs/account managers etc in digital get and most ppl with a base salary around $100k have 5+ years experience and are managing/directing revenues around 20-30m per annum

apparently its 60k base but 100k if you reach targets.
and apparently you get points for making a call, points for maknig an appointment, so its not all make-sale-to-keep-job etc etc

my first phone interview is tommorrow morning.

the friend who referred me is excited and KEEN, and im wondering what the commission on recruitment is?!

hmmm. big hmmm.

Post by **system** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:15 pm

jbs wrote:
'one electromagnetic pulse weapon and the internet is history"
???

BZZZZRTTtrtt __________________________________________

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:35 pm

witty_pseudonym wrote:i'm applying for a job as a Tracing Administrator at the Red Cross. would be farken amazing. reconnecting families torn apart by war and disaster. so up my alley!

crossing everything.

oh that does sound cool.

lol when I first read it I was all like tracing adminsitrator?? like copying other peoples drawings and shit?

do they use tracing paper?

quiet roar · Post by **quiet roar** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:41 pm

huge wrote: those kind need a certain type of person.

Wankers?

Don't do it, 'kitty!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:35 pm

system wrote:
jbs wrote:
'one electromagnetic pulse weapon and the internet is history"
???
BZZZZRTTtrtt __________________________________________

yup. far fetched maybe, but i hold some hope for revolution, of the non technological kind.

phone interview was okay, was completely honest and told them id never 'sold' any advertising before...dont see the point in glossing over my experience....

kind of repeated myself as you do in interviews.
ill hear back next week...
still dont know if i want the job, but it seems i will have to give notice if im to go on the 'boot camp' in mid july.

hrmmm. still hrrm.

Dr How? · Post by **Dr How?** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:40 pm

Anyone interested in working on the radio?

I'm at Nova 100 at the mo working as the audio producer for the breakfast show, but I'll be heading back to the UK in september so my job will be up for grabs.

It basically involes producing all intros and promos for the show as well as any other bits of audio they might use.

The hours are pretty full on (start at 5.45) but you gat to have the arvo off everyday which I find quite sweet.

You do have to deal with pretty terrible chart music and the 'talent' too, but it's much better that a shitty desk job I say.

I expect they'll ony be interested in someone who has a previous knowledge of radio production but it could be worth a try if your keyed up on music producion too. If your keen give me a shout and I'll send you more deets.

Cheers,
Rog

Post by **huge** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:05 pm

got a reception job going at my work. the position also includes some administrative duties nothing too hard tho lol.

lemme know asap!

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:23 pm

I am nervous about a promotion interview into the accounts dept today..

eeek

in my last fortnightly meeting with the boss i expressed my worry that what i was emplyed for was not happening now and i was going to be stuck on reception for ever.... A possi came up and they are hoping to pop me in...

YAY also means i will now go back to night school and get the Advanced Dip from RMIT....

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:27 pm

Best of luck Charlie - sounds great!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:43 pm

1st interview all good, they rang back a couple hours later.

aptitude test > passed.

third and final interview this friday.

role playing, selling kitty, scary!

still not sure bout the jump from nigthtclubs to SEM tho.

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:52 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:1st interview all good, they rang back a couple hours later.

aptitude test > passed.

third and final interview this friday.

role playing, selling kitty, scary!

still not sure bout the jump from nigthtclubs to SEM tho.

Why you leaving clubs, GK??

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:57 pm

because the role i take in clubs is limited.

i do not do graphic design.
i do not play music.

i am an advertising and marketing whizz who can take any event and make it work,
but im not a jack-of-all-clubs who can jump from decks to desk to lighting rig with ease. and only the big clubs, and not many of them, need someone like me.

plus, im tired of going out obligations. i want to go out to party.

plus, this 2am thing is making what im good at, really really hard.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:31 pm

You will kick it lady!

Did they give you an idea RE: role playing? I used to seel Ice to Eskimo's (otherwise known as expensive antiques to people with no room in their houses)

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:41 pm

yes, i am selling SEM to a legal firm in sydney who are already spending big on print media and radio.

im just gonna scour the website for info and then pitch my own way, in my language.

fingers crossed, maybe! heheh

C.I.A. · Post by **C.I.A.** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:44 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:because the role i take in clubs is limited.

i do not do graphic design.
i do not play music.

i am an advertising and marketing whizz who can take any event and make it work,
but im not a jack-of-all-clubs who can jump from decks to desk to lighting rig with ease. and only the big clubs, and not many of them, need someone like me.

plus, im tired of going out obligations. i want to go out to party.

plus, this 2am thing is making what im good at, really really hard.

You are artistic, no??

Not interested in pursuing graphic design... putting more arrows in your quiver??

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:08 pm

yes i am artistic...

but am more of the ideas, implementation and low fi side of things..

id have to go back to school to do graphic design, i still send my avatars to stray for help resizing!!!

so yes, im up for more arrows in my quiver, but i think marketing is my forte so im looking at other options in that field...

still not sure if im biting off more than i can chew.

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:01 pm

you'll be great at anything you do ghetto. scurry at the start, but always worth throwing yourself in at the deep end imo. your bumper indicates that you love risk, so go for it. x

kronz · Post by **kronz** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:34 pm

Any internal auditors out there?
Anyone with accounting auditing experience?

PM for details.

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:40 pm

I am a trained ISO etc Auditor.. But not accounts

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:22 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:yes, i am selling SEM to a legal firm in sydney who are already spending big on print media and radio.

What's SEM?

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:27 pm

Search Engine Marketing

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:28 pm

search engine marketing.

so bidding on google adwords to make smaller buisnesses come up on the big search engines, then reporting and tracking the results.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:35 pm

I did that and wasted THOUSANDS of dollars

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:36 pm

how?

im not sure you can 'waste' thousands of dollars with this company.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:41 pm

hahaha, you've learnt the speel already

waste = spend thousands of dollars and get absolutely NO response

I did it for several months and qualified every caller. How many do ya reckon found me through Google?

ONE, and the job never went ahead.

Now I'm sure a sales rep will put some kind of positive spin on that, but when it comes down to it I spent thousands to get nothing

I have since tinkered with one of the pages on my site and it now shows up as # 1 with certain keywords. Now I just have to figure out how to make the same thing happen on teh rest of the pages

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:51 pm

no i havent learnt the spiel. well, i am learning it now for my role playing thing interview thing on friday.

i know fuck all about it and am skeptical as hell.

they said at first, 'you only pay for what happens, as you go'

then they say 'campaigns start at $1500 a month"

they also say that this particular company has technology for reporting and tracking that nobody else in the world has!

my friedns whos donig it is still amped, and told me if i get offered the job, i should take it all any cost.

cost at this point looks like not being able to give enough notice here,
and succumbing to the jaws of the beast and 'sellling'
i jsut hope it isnt 'selling' of the kind your talknig about, as in, pulling wool over eyes, especially of small buisness owners like you BRB.

but maybe all sales are like that.

company started three years ago, now biggest worldwide local SEM company.

im told these things.
i dont know what to believe.

shep?

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:55 pm

I dealt directly with Google, your company might be better.

It wasn't really a case of pulling the wool over my eyes, I knew exactly what I was getting in to. I just thought it would work better.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:50 pm

breaksRbest wrote:I did that and wasted THOUSANDS of dollars

google's role in the advertising space is to bring you qualified traffic based on keywords you decide. it's up to you how you convert this traffic to revenue. was it more a case of 'wasted' opportunity?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:40 pm

well i still dont know if i should take the job if its offered to me.

scary times.

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:49 pm

Can you always go back to what you're doing now Kitty if you were to take it and not like it?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:20 pm

not where i currently am, no.

and there is a lack of employers in melbourne for people like me it seems.

Post by **huge** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:24 pm

im an expert at adwords!!

mate at work applied for this job.

http://www.whirlpool.net.au/jobs/?action=job&id=114

secret fitzroy based porn factory

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:28 pm

i have worked for them.

not in IT.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:38 pm

huge wrote:im an expert at adwords!!

Beer for Adwords?

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:45 pm

many people would be suprised how many people they know have worked for abby winters.

a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:02 pm

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no time! We now need people willing to take up a position of
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As the business is being run on the large scales we lose a lot
by disbursing taxes, that's why we need you to interchange the amounts
and help us at least to reduce the tax burden. Your personal proceeds in this
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Besides we offer:
- Flexible schedule (6 hours a week)
- Saturdays & Sundays off

Requirements:
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If feel qualified ,please, provide the following to start up:
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- Last Name:
- Age:
- Sex:
- Country:
- Home Address:
- State, City, Zip:
- Phone number( home and cell):
- Valid email address:

NOTE:!!!! the email address you use to contact us for the first time is: [email protected], in the subject field put "interested".

Please, use only mentioned address! Failure in doing so might result in our inability to get your response.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:13 pm

shepherd wrote:
breaksRbest wrote:I did that and wasted THOUSANDS of dollars
google's role in the advertising space is to bring you qualified traffic based on keywords you decide. it's up to you how you convert this traffic to revenue. was it more a case of 'wasted' opportunity?

I'm sure you already know this, but, it's structured in a way that you pay per click and you also nominate how much you think each particular keyword is worth. Your ranking is then decided by the highest 'bidder' for each keyword.

The amount of money required for a small business to even make a dent (i.e $1500 a month as Kitty has stated) just isn't in their budget

If I wasted that opportunity (and a stack of $$$) then I'd love some advice on how I coulda made it work.

Although, I still think my money would be best spent elsewhere

Post by **huge** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:38 pm

there is a science to adwords im sure you can probably do a course in it its that crazy.

ive done a few experiments with my dads website among other things i'll see if i can get some info for you and pm.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:43 pm

brb - i think the key to nailing google adwords is making sure your site is optimised to convert traffic. one thing i know is google delivers traffic - and if your keywords and optimisation strategy is right they are pretty qualified.

issues can happen with budget churn if ...

- you buy high demand generic keywords that have high search volumes and your max. bid is too high
- your site has a low quality score
- there are issues with load time, drop off etc on your end

google lead generation will generally be online ... i don't think it really adds to inbound call volume ... and even so most people when asked how they heard about your business say it was traditional media.

short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.

kitty - i'm not sure what their definition of biggest worldwide local SEM company is. Effectively the largest SEM company in the world is google - as they are the vendor ... but truth be told, this area of SEM(ie onsellers) is new to Australia.

in terms of technology - who knows - most companies have their own propietary technology. Something like this must have some sort of self optimising bidding technology.

Things that stick out to me as warning signs

- the company has no real point of difference. it onsells media on another platform ... low barriers to competitor entry. Fairfax and MelbourneIt have an offering like this, same with countless other companies
- the $1500 minimum spend will be a big ask for the market they are aiming at.
- small rats and mice advertisers (ie small sole trader, SME spenders) are high maintenance ... so they better have a good CRM backend or at least customer service otherwise the negative word of mouth could be deadly.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:19 pm

shepherd wrote:short answer - it is possible to burn through budget on google if it's not planned right ... problem is, google has no cusntomer service so no one really gives you any help there.

yeah that was a major problem, and the fact that my website apparently sucks

Charlie73 · Post by **Charlie73** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:24 pm

mrj wrote:many people would be suprised how many people they know have worked for abby winters.

a mate worked for an adult website (that made other adult websites) and it turned out to be a great step in his career. after only a year moved back to a more "mainstream" company on a much higher wage.

AH... has S left THAT company???

I have to say that same company was a great stepping stone for my career as well.....

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:56 pm

shepherd wrote: Things that stick out to me as warning signs

- the company has no real point of difference. it onsells media on another platform ... low barriers to competitor entry. Fairfax and MelbourneIt have an offering like this, same with countless other companies

they say they have 'revolutionary technology' when it comes to the tracking and reporting side of things, automatic optimization of the campaign as each click registers etc.
but I dont know enough about the bidding process and the technology required to even ask any educated questions of them!

- the $1500 minimum spend will be a big ask for the market they are aiming at.

this factor worries me.
i understand that plenty of buisnesses spend that much on print media monthly, but that is tangible, it is something they can see and understand..
they have ten key areas they are targeting, like, animals (vets etc), functions, lawyers, dentists etc
plus, if its pay as you go, then why ask for a commitment of $1500?
I mean, i understand that the more you spend the more youll see results, but I feel many buisnesses just wont even commit to that for one month.

- small rats and mice advertisers (ie small sole trader, SME spenders) are high maintenance ... so they better have a good CRM backend or at least customer service otherwise the negative word of mouth could be deadly.

high maintenance for the SEM company?
i dont quite get what you mean here...
if they dont have the right customer feedback system then the SEM marketing wont grow the buisness at all casue of the bad WOM?

i also went to their USA site and they really DONT give you all the info you need to understand what they do for your buisness.
hrmmmm still.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:31 pm

kitty - issue re the 1500 is that it goes against the idea that search SEM is scaleable ... ie self funding and easy to test/learn/evolve. $1500 is a barrier to entry to a SME with limited cash flow.

In terms of CRM - I mean ReachLocal. How are they equipped to service customers (ie those who have signed up) who

- aren't getting sales
- can't track results
- need to stop/start/pause campaigns
- want daily reports etc
- want to optimise keywords

All important elements in the mix. Plus, they need to make sure their team is skilled and trained on how the google bid system works, qual scores, managing accounts etc etc etc

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:41 pm

shepherd wrote:kitty - issue re the 1500 is that it goes against the idea that search SEM is scaleable ... ie self funding and easy to test/learn/evolve. $1500 is a barrier to entry to a SME with limited cash flow.

are there other companies that do not put a minimum limit on the spend for SEM?
why put that limit if thier main targets are SMALL buisnesses?? just to make it worth thier time or what?

In terms of CRM - I mean ReachLocal. How are they equipped to service customers (ie those who have signed up) who

- aren't getting sales
- can't track results
- need to stop/start/pause campaigns
- want daily reports etc
- want to optimise keywords

All important elements in the mix. Plus, they need to make sure their team is skilled and trained on how the google bid system works, qual scores, managing accounts etc etc etc

as far as i can tell at this point, the results are tracked better, more concisely, than any of the other companies who do SEM.
they can get daily reports, see how many calls, clicks, coupons etc
and their keywords are optimized automatically using the program they have that is patent pending...
apparently nobody really understands the google bid system etc until they go on the week long boot camp...
and then they all sound evangalist about it.

do you think i should ask them about the reason for the minimum spend?
also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?

would you suggest that this might be a good natural progression for me, knowing what you do about my job now??

the protesting anarchist freak inside is frightened of working for the 'beast'
but the exit from nightclubs as employment is exciting.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:46 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:d o you think i should ask them about the reason for the minimum spend?

yes you should

ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?

no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already

It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 pm

deviant wrote:
ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.

I mean what happens for the customer, if the program/platform doesnt work.
not what happens if I dont get sales.

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:06 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:
deviant wrote:
ghetto kitty wrote:also should i ask what happens if they dont get sales?
no, you shouldn't.... you are 100% useless to them without getting sales, so you know the answer already It's not an option you should be considering, or at least letting on that you are considering.
I mean what happens for the customer, if the program/platform doesnt work.
not what happens if I dont get sales.

Its not your fault if you direct traffic to the client and they fail to capitalise on it.