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i need to choose at least 3 or 4 of those options.
i need to choose at least 3 or 4 of those options.
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umm jungle is not an option
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no
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breakcore too
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Sorry bud... but techno is a genre of music in itself from what I understand. Just a pet hate of mine when all dance music/electronic music gets lumped into the 'techno' basket when some of it is far from techno...elflaymo wrote:how would you like me to state it then?? what kind of non-human constructed music? what kind of technological music? what kind of electronic music?? I call anything thats made from a synth/computer techno.
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or 16 armed jack or dj c as drum and bass?
no
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Yes, salt is good.kronz wrote:Its all about the salt. More salt means your drink more beer which means you have more funDirektor wrote:Oh ok.kronz wrote:Nah you cant have too much flavour when your drinking beers coz it fucks with the beer hence plain in No. 1
And that's why you had salt'n'vingar in No.2?
I prefer the pretzels alongside my beer, or even salted peanuts.... Small goods like salami, kabana and ham are also most lovely...
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Direktor wrote:Yes, salt is good.kronz wrote:Its all about the salt. More salt means your drink more beer which means you have more funDirektor wrote: Oh ok.
And that's why you had salt'n'vingar in No.2?
I prefer the pretzels alongside my beer, or even salted peanuts.... Small goods like salami, kabana and ham are also most lovely...
Yes I do enjoy the odd pretzel with some beer. Not as big on the small goods though. Its pretty hard to rock into a pub get a piont of ice cold beer and a plate of small goods but maybe its something pubs should look into
davidbreaks wrote:would u class noisia or limewax as jungle?system wrote:Jungle is drum and bass.
I'd class myself as a junglist.....
I am not a jungle dj but i am a drum and bass dj. Listening to a a lot of what Gein is doing at the moment and that sounds more like jungle to me than some damn amens cut up with ragga samples and some gunshots on some underground US label that. Most of that shit is wak.
Jungle was an era, a moment in history. Jungle was raw because of the equipment they were using and the sounds they were discovering. Jungle was free and relatively unrestricted in its direction. Jungle was aggresive and violent and it was born of the streets of lower class UK, mostly influenced by black folk. Some people carried guns to Jungle parties in the UK and shot them in the air for wicked tunes like we do lighters or the dj for wak tunes like we do abuse. Most of the time there weren't enough jungle releases before a party so the dj's would play happy hardcore. In Melbourne there weren't enough jungle dj's so Atom would organise it with Adelaide so the dj and the Adelaide Massive would come down in buses for the night. MAD RESPECT TO THE EARLY ADELAIDE JUNGLIST CREW!!!! Jungle was a way of life. Jungle techno is a spirit within that most have absolutely no clue about but claim to because they can play represses or listen to the aforementioned amen cut up-ragga sampling-no distro having-re vamped without improvement-cheesy music that can be found today.
Can we move on? We have been discussing this for years.....
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many people discuss this and move on, yet dont listen to contemporary jungle though - or even dont really listen to any jungle, just drum and bass
the musical distinction is still important
i dont listen to drum and bass (much) i listen to jungle
the musical distinction is still important
i dont listen to drum and bass (much) i listen to jungle
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Me too. Well said, my man.on tour wrote:davidbreaks wrote:would u class noisia or limewax as jungle?system wrote:Jungle is drum and bass.
I'd class myself as a junglist.....
FoundationStepper wrote:many people discuss this and move on, yet dont listen to contemporary jungle though - or even dont really listen to any jungle, just drum and bass
the musical distinction is still important
I've heard quite a bit of 'contemporary jungle' and for the most part, I don't think it shares much with what was being produced back in the '90s, apart from the break and ragga samples. The quality of the music, from what I've heard, is quite poor and seems to be made more for a particular audience than anything else. The beauty of jungle, when produced well, is that the music has a variety of musical styles in it.
Anyway, enough said on my part.
on tour wrote:Can we move on? We have been discussing this for years.....
Please!
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not to enter into debate on if the music is of quality, or consistent, or who its written for, but it doesnt sound like drum and bass does it. it sounds like jungle. becuase it is jungle, not drum and bass. they are different.system wrote:FoundationStepper wrote:many people discuss this and move on, yet dont listen to contemporary jungle though - or even dont really listen to any jungle, just drum and bass
the musical distinction is still important
I've heard quite a bit of 'contemporary jungle' and for the most part, I don't think it shares much with what was being produced back in the '90s, apart from the break and ragga samples. The quality of the music, from what I've heard, is quite poor and seems to be made more for a particular audience than anything else. The beauty of jungle, when produced well, is that the music has a variety of musical styles in it.
anyway breakcore isnt on the list
croaking lizard... jungletasticdubcorebadness (brap brap)
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I'd class myself as a junglist.....
I am not a jungle dj but i am a drum and bass dj. Listening to a a lot of what Gein is doing at the moment and that sounds more like jungle to me than some damn amens cut up with ragga samples and some gunshots on some underground US label that. Most of that shit is wak.
Jungle was an era, a moment in history. Jungle was raw because of the equipment they were using and the sounds they were discovering. Jungle was free and relatively unrestricted in its direction. Jungle was aggresive and violent and it was born of the streets of lower class UK, mostly influenced by black folk. Some people carried guns to Jungle parties in the UK and shot them in the air for wicked tunes like we do lighters or the dj for wak tunes like we do abuse. Most of the time there weren't enough jungle releases before a party so the dj's would play happy hardcore. In Melbourne there weren't enough jungle dj's so Atom would organise it with Adelaide so the dj and the Adelaide Massive would come down in buses for the night. MAD RESPECT TO THE EARLY ADELAIDE JUNGLIST CREW!!!! Jungle was a way of life. Jungle techno is a spirit within that most have absolutely no clue about but claim to because they can play represses or listen to the aforementioned amen cut up-ragga sampling-no distro having-re vamped without improvement-cheesy music that can be found today.
Can we move on? We have been discussing this for years.....
I am not a jungle dj but i am a drum and bass dj. Listening to a a lot of what Gein is doing at the moment and that sounds more like jungle to me than some damn amens cut up with ragga samples and some gunshots on some underground US label that. Most of that shit is wak.
Jungle was an era, a moment in history. Jungle was raw because of the equipment they were using and the sounds they were discovering. Jungle was free and relatively unrestricted in its direction. Jungle was aggresive and violent and it was born of the streets of lower class UK, mostly influenced by black folk. Some people carried guns to Jungle parties in the UK and shot them in the air for wicked tunes like we do lighters or the dj for wak tunes like we do abuse. Most of the time there weren't enough jungle releases before a party so the dj's would play happy hardcore. In Melbourne there weren't enough jungle dj's so Atom would organise it with Adelaide so the dj and the Adelaide Massive would come down in buses for the night. MAD RESPECT TO THE EARLY ADELAIDE JUNGLIST CREW!!!! Jungle was a way of life. Jungle techno is a spirit within that most have absolutely no clue about but claim to because they can play represses or listen to the aforementioned amen cut up-ragga sampling-no distro having-re vamped without improvement-cheesy music that can be found today.
Can we move on? We have been discussing this for years.....
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Sorry to persist with this but it can never sound the same as 'back in the good ole days' because of technology. Kenny used to sample the sound his computer used make when he turned it on so he could use it for a bassline. People don't do that shit now. They don't have to. The sound of jungle techno is pretty hard to emulate...FoundationStepper wrote:not to enter into debate on if the music is of quality, or consistent, or who its written for, but it doesnt sound like drum and bass does it. it sounds like jungle. becuase it is jungle, not drum and bass. they are different.system wrote:FoundationStepper wrote:many people discuss this and move on, yet dont listen to contemporary jungle though - or even dont really listen to any jungle, just drum and bass
the musical distinction is still important
I've heard quite a bit of 'contemporary jungle' and for the most part, I don't think it shares much with what was being produced back in the '90s, apart from the break and ragga samples. The quality of the music, from what I've heard, is quite poor and seems to be made more for a particular audience than anything else. The beauty of jungle, when produced well, is that the music has a variety of musical styles in it.
anyway breakcore isnt on the list
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dont get your knickers in a knot - im not telling you that you are not allowed to call youself a junglist.
yeah like most drum and bass isnt wak. most everything is wak.
cant shake that jungle spirit of the past aye. what a mentality
yeah like most drum and bass isnt wak. most everything is wak.
cant shake that jungle spirit of the past aye. what a mentality
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who said its emulating anyway, its just progressing it in a different direction.
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Sorry man, don't wear knickers.FoundationStepper wrote:dont get your knickers in a knot - im not telling you that you are not allowed to call youself a junglist.
yeah like most drum and bass isnt wak. most everything is wak.
cant shake that jungle spirit of the past aye. what a mentality
too much drum and bass is wak. I can shake the mentality no problem but like wak drum and bass that is is abundance today aswell as the 'Hollywood' remake of nearly every film made, i get over the the whole revamping process. Whether it is sheep, films or music we need to understand that cloning is used for all the wrong reasons.
And dude, working at Slap, the only shop in Melbourne that used to stock modern jungle, i would, every wednesday, listen to every record that came in. I even purchased some modern jungle at times. Not much though because most producers making it struggle to realise what it was all about just like so many junglists struggle to produce drum and bass for today because they can't make the transition from 'the good ole days'.
Look at Ray Keith.
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actually i found most of what slap got in did not in most cases touch on the better parts of new jungle... (i dont tend to like most N2O and enjoy some of big cat (some very good erleases though) - only dabblings of other inetresting stuff came in there IMO)
you should check some other stuff... (i always meant to drop you off a mix when i used to come in regularly)
to me listening to an artist like venetian snares (who id loosely call breakcore) is an example of progression - not emualtion - he takes what made drum funk interesting when I first heard it - and pushes it further and further... challenging and interesting. in no way is he situated in the past, as many average jungle producers are (i agree on that in part).
or artists like dj c - moving away from amen based stuff and pushing new beat structures which carry wikkid flow yet are stimulating as well...
or squarepusher on a good day... (dont know what genere to lump him in)
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i looked at ray keith and he got all funny and punched me
you should check some other stuff... (i always meant to drop you off a mix when i used to come in regularly)
to me listening to an artist like venetian snares (who id loosely call breakcore) is an example of progression - not emualtion - he takes what made drum funk interesting when I first heard it - and pushes it further and further... challenging and interesting. in no way is he situated in the past, as many average jungle producers are (i agree on that in part).
or artists like dj c - moving away from amen based stuff and pushing new beat structures which carry wikkid flow yet are stimulating as well...
or squarepusher on a good day... (dont know what genere to lump him in)
ps
i looked at ray keith and he got all funny and punched me
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FoundationStepper wrote:not to enter into debate on if the music is of quality, or consistent, or who its written for, but it doesnt sound like drum and bass does it. it sounds like jungle. becuase it is jungle, not drum and bass. they are different.system wrote:FoundationStepper wrote:many people discuss this and move on, yet dont listen to contemporary jungle though - or even dont really listen to any jungle, just drum and bass
the musical distinction is still important
I've heard quite a bit of 'contemporary jungle' and for the most part, I don't think it shares much with what was being produced back in the '90s, apart from the break and ragga samples. The quality of the music, from what I've heard, is quite poor and seems to be made more for a particular audience than anything else. The beauty of jungle, when produced well, is that the music has a variety of musical styles in it.
Not much. The BPM is the only difference in those two genre labels, for me anyway.
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jeebus christ stop arguing about it already! i dont think you can actually fit that many options on the stupid poll ffs.
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