Freeland - Shame shame shame on you

LuKo · Post by **LuKo** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:08 pm

ok this may have already been discussed, but i caught the travesty that is freelands latest rock remix on tv yesterday

i havent been so dissapointed in a while

i mean Freeland is a pioneer, the man in his day was a genius, but he has fallen off the wagon of whats cutting edge

i mean nevermind remix was bad, i think we all wanted it to stop there

then came the white strips one, which blatantly sounded like the nevermind one but with different vocals

now he hacks at the doors, i mean he leaves the track untouched basically, but its his piss weak beats, or lack there of backing it that does my head in

ok i feel better for getting that out.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:17 pm

LuKo wrote:ok this may have already been discussed, but i caught the travesty that is freelands latest rock remix on tv yesterday

i havent been so dissapointed in a while

i mean Freeland is a pioneer, the man in his day was a genius, but he has fallen off the wagon of whats cutting edge

i mean nevermind remix was bad, i think we all wanted it to stop there

then came the white strips one, which blatantly sounded like the nevermind one but with different vocals

now he hacks at the doors, i mean he leaves the track untouched basically, but its his piss weak beats, or lack there of backing it that does my head in

ok i feel better for getting that out.

that remix is 18 months old dude!!

yes it does suck the large one

freeland should stay away from production i feel

sneaky hands · Post by **sneaky hands** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:20 pm

Luko, i commend you on your sig.. i almost spewed from laughing

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:23 pm

get with the times luko

sheesh

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:34 pm

what do you mean deviant? taking a broadside eh?

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:38 pm

Smells like Freeland and Seven Nation Freeland are both dope.

Same drums, but dope.

Not a bootleg but the Kelis remix is awesome too.

I do agree though, he has fallen off. Doors is piss weak.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:40 pm

like that jim morrison poem that fat boy slim mixed up years back- bird of prey or whatever

utter shite. i hated it and now i've just put it back in my bradio

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:42 pm

He's in studio at the moment with a very respectful producer. Hold tight believers.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:34 pm

lynt wrote:He's in studio at the moment with a very respectful producer. Hold tight believers.

Isn't the Snow Over Arizona dude producing his new album?

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:47 pm

May have a hand it in, but it's not what I heard (which was straight from source).

NinjaGaijin · Post by **NinjaGaijin** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:58 pm

Worst "RECHNO" (rock/techno) mix I heard this year was @ dubstep @ brown alley - citizen playing techno version of Metallica's One... OH MY GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plus it was straight after the nevermind remix and some other rechno

Brain · Post by **Brain** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:32 pm

Worst remix I have ever heard was at Earthcore last year: a trance remix of Dire Straits' Money for Nothing. It brought music to a new level of shit.

Mellogs · Post by **Mellogs** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:38 pm

Brain wrote:Worst remix I have ever heard was at Earthcore last year: a trance remix of Dire Straits' Money for Nothing. It brought music to a new level of shit.

Dire straits is my hero

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:47 pm

Mellogs wrote:
Brain wrote:Worst remix I have ever heard was at Earthcore last year: a trance remix of Dire Straits' Money for Nothing. It brought music to a new level of shit.
Dire straits is my hero

Hell yeah!

love the straits

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:56 pm

do you love trance remixes of the straits?

Mellogs · Post by **Mellogs** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:57 pm

i say No to trance

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:58 pm

what's it too you - he he he?

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:01 pm

shut it feigan you old bastard...

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:07 pm

Mwah ha ha h ha

Yes i am getting old!!!

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:12 pm

Old, new, whatever.
Freeland is a twat.
I hate his music, I hate his record label, I hate how he 'mixes.'

To me he typifies the direction breakbeat should not go if it wants to survive.
Marine Parade gives me a soft-on.

(And his mix albums - meh. Mix up an album with a computer then throw a cover on it, 'mixed by Freeland' - where the skill wigga?

)

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:25 pm

Brain wrote:Worst remix I have ever heard was at Earthcore last year: a trance remix of Dire Straits' Money for Nothing. It brought music to a new level of shit.

hahaha.
Try coming to my gym on a daily basis.
I'm there at 10 am most days, and there's a class full of chicks in the side room who work out to this hard house cover mix album - every day.
Hard house versions of Bryan Adams - Heaven, Phil Collins - Land of Confusion, Belinda Carlisle - Heaven is a place on Earth... Just for starters.

How do the people who make this shit sleep at night?

I guess it does help me get out my agression on the bag, ball, person, whatever though - because it's just SO fucking bad I want to maim someone.

Brain was rocking to 'Money for Nothing' at Earthcore last year, then went and got his copy signed by Chicago.

on tour · Post by **on tour** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:36 pm

hahahahahaha!

Evil - you are a legend....

Andy H · Post by **Andy H** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:10 am

[quote="Little Evil"][/quote]

How do I quote your B.Spears Avatar?
Gold!

Blueprint · Post by **Blueprint** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:18 am

Angry evil..

Still rate On Tour as a mix cd though..

Brain · Post by **Brain** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:25 am

Little Evil wrote:Brain was rocking to 'Money for Nothing' at Earthcore last year, then went and got his copy signed by Chicago.

I had to 69 him first but it was well worth it

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:29 am

You 'lucky, lucky bastard.'

Haven't seen you guys for a while. We'll have to catch up soon and swap trance records.
I just got a Chicago remix of 'Twisting by the Pool' - Dire Straits.

stovequeen · Post by **stovequeen** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:08 am

Blueprint wrote:Angry evil..

Still rate On Tour as a mix cd though..

Evil this if for you....

Brain · Post by **Brain** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:15 am

Little Evil wrote:I just got a Chicago remix of 'Twisting by the Pool' - Dire Straits.

That's nothin - I just got the Raja Ram hard trance remix of 'In the Ghetto' by Elvis...

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:42 am

Brain wrote:
Little Evil wrote:I just got a Chicago remix of 'Twisting by the Pool' - Dire Straits.

That's nothin - I just got the Raja Ram hard trance remix of 'In the Ghetto' by Elvis...

What about the Freeland/Chicago collaboration of 'It's raining men.'
It moved me man.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:47 am

Brain:

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:49 am

Yeah, don't feed this animal - he's likely to shit in his hand and throw it at you like a disgruntled orangutang with a bad case of 'red-ass'

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:24 pm

stovequeen wrote:
Blueprint wrote:Angry evil..

Still rate On Tour as a mix cd though..

Essential 2001 as well. Immaculate programming.

How many commercial mix cds are done off vinyl/cdjs anyway?

None?

valuetime · Post by **valuetime** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:37 pm

andrew clarke would never program a mix, or i wouldn't like him any more...

quiet roar · Post by **quiet roar** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:03 pm

Brain wrote:Worst remix I have ever heard was at Earthcore last year: a trance remix of Dire Straits' Money for Nothing. It brought music to a new level of shit.

Not much you can do with a song that bad but anyone responsible for bringing that riff back to dance-floors is bad news.

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:38 pm

jbs wrote:
stovequeen wrote:
Blueprint wrote:Angry evil..

Still rate On Tour as a mix cd though..

Essential 2001 as well. Immaculate programming.

How many commercial mix cds are done off vinyl/cdjs anyway?

None?

Yeah true that.
Sort of says something about DJ'ing in this day and age doesn't it?
Package a DJ - sell him to the target audience. Pre-program his mix.
Who gives a fuck how good he is.
If he looks good, seems cool, and is marketable, it's all that matters.

I much rather listen to non-commercial mixes, that have been truly 'mixed' - than listen to what passes as a mass distributed mix album - where you are just basically listen to tunes, rather than mixology.
And admittedly there is some good tunes on some of those Freeland albums - but still, as whole, it's not my cup of tea.
But, I guess I'm just one of those old fashion DJ's that still believes the mix is everything - yes, EVERYTHING.

I want to hear a DJ mix it up. I want to hear him move fast through what he's got, and be extremely creative in the mix.
And, no matter which way trends swing - that's the way I'm going to stay.

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:04 pm

So you'd be happy to hear a mix of dire straits, britney and shakira, so long as it's done well???

valuetime · Post by **valuetime** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:13 pm

gtfo. money for nothing is a classic.

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:16 pm

valuetime wrote:gtfo. money for nothing is a classic.

I want my...I want my...I want my MTVVVVVVV

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:28 pm

Fents wrote:
valuetime wrote:gtfo. money for nothing is a classic.

I want my...I want my...I want my MTVVVVVVV

I second this notion

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:39 pm

what does gtfo stand for??

something something fuck off?

Post by **system** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:40 pm

The Mixtress wrote:what does gtfo stand for??

something something fuck off?

Get The F(iretr)uck Out.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:45 pm

Little Evil wrote:
jbs wrote:
stovequeen wrote:
Essential 2001 as well. Immaculate programming.

How many commercial mix cds are done off vinyl/cdjs anyway?

None?
Yeah true that.
Sort of says something about DJ'ing in this day and age doesn't it?
Package a DJ - sell him to the target audience. Pre-program his mix.
Who gives a fuck how good he is.
If he looks good, seems cool, and is marketable, it's all that matters.

I disagree with that sentiment.

When I did Future Breaks I mixed it on Acid on the PC ... with some edits done in soundforge etc and some overdubs ... ironically the process took about 50x as long as it would have if I had of done the mix live ... but given it's a document that is something people pay for I wanted to represent myself as well as possible. I don't have any regrets in regards to this - as I know I could do it live even now (and I don't own decks) in a club/party whatever.

However, this doesn't take away from what DJs can do when they play live in person ... I liken it to bands releasing LPs of what are studio albums. No band feels the need to record a whole LP in 1 take to justify to anyone that they are worthy of the praise heaped on them. Djs shouldn't have to mix live for a release to feel like they're worthy as DJs ... it doesn't make that much sense.

The mix is important but it's really a given - most DJs can mix ... it's not really rocket science ... but the real value (I feel) is in programming and being able to put records together in a way that is unique ... and this skill can be expressed via studio or live mixes.

Freeland's Ess.Mix is awesome and at the time was pretty out there and progressive ... the guy can mix like a motherfucker and if you want an example check out Coastal Breaks or any of his sets around that time ... the guy was the king on 3 decks back before CDJs and was widely considered by most as technically pretty shit hot.

Evil - am not having a dig ... I know yr passionate about mixing records and actually mixing them, just putting forward an alternative view.

Additional edit ...

In terms of skill ... I also contest how vital this is in a lot of forms of music.

Lets look at guitar dudes ... Kurt Cobain was no Yngvie Malmstein ... but who will be remembered? Skills aren't everything - creativity/imagination is.

And in terms of marketablility ... this is really a given. Every entertainer/performer needs to be marketable. This isn't a negative - it's a reality.

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:52 pm

Feigan wrote:
Fents wrote:
valuetime wrote:gtfo. money for nothing is a classic.

I want my...I want my...I want my MTVVVVVVV
I second this notion

You actually third'd it.

RMHC · Post by **RMHC** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:57 pm

shepherd wrote:
Little Evil wrote:
jbs wrote: Essential 2001 as well. Immaculate programming.

How many commercial mix cds are done off vinyl/cdjs anyway?

None?
Yeah true that.
Sort of says something about DJ'ing in this day and age doesn't it?
Package a DJ - sell him to the target audience. Pre-program his mix.
Who gives a fuck how good he is.
If he looks good, seems cool, and is marketable, it's all that matters.
I disagree with that sentiment.

When I did Future Breaks I mixed it on Acid on the PC ... with some edits done in soundforge etc and some overdubs ... ironically the process took about 50x as long as it would have if I had of done the mix live ... but given it's a document that is something people pay for I wanted to represent myself as well as possible. I don't have any regrets in regards to this - as I know I could do it live even now (and I don't own decks) in a club/party whatever.

However, this doesn't take away from what DJs can do when they play live in person ... I liken it to bands releasing LPs of what are studio albums. No band feels the need to record a whole LP in 1 take to justify to anyone that they are worthy of the praise heaped on them. Djs shouldn't have to mix live for a release to feel like they're worthy as DJs ... it doesn't make that much sense.

The mix is important but it's really a given - most DJs can mix ... it's not really rocket science ... but the real value (I feel) is in programming and being able to put records together in a way that is unique ... and this skill can be expressed via studio or live mixes.

Freeland's Ess.Mix is awesome and at the time was pretty out there and progressive ... the guy can mix like a motherfucker and if you want an example check out Coastal Breaks or any of his sets around that time ... the guy was the king on 3 decks back before CDJs and was widely considered by most as technically pretty shit hot.

Evil - am not having a dig ... I know yr passionate about mixing records and actually mixing them, just putting forward an alternative view.

Additional edit ...

In terms of skill ... I also contest how vital this is in a lot of forms of music.

Lets look at guitar dudes ... Kurt Cobain was no Yngvie Malmstein ... but who will be remembered? Skills aren't everything - creativity/imagination is.

And in terms of marketablility ... this is really a given. Every entertainer/performer needs to be marketable. This isn't a negative - it's a reality.

why did you give up djing?

almax · Post by **almax** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:03 pm

shepherd wrote:
Little Evil wrote:
jbs wrote: Essential 2001 as well. Immaculate programming.

How many commercial mix cds are done off vinyl/cdjs anyway?

None?
Yeah true that.
Sort of says something about DJ'ing in this day and age doesn't it?
Package a DJ - sell him to the target audience. Pre-program his mix.
Who gives a fuck how good he is.
If he looks good, seems cool, and is marketable, it's all that matters.
I disagree with that sentiment.

When I did Future Breaks I mixed it on Acid on the PC ... with some edits done in soundforge etc and some overdubs ... ironically the process took about 50x as long as it would have if I had of done the mix live ... but given it's a document that is something people pay for I wanted to represent myself as well as possible. I don't have any regrets in regards to this - as I know I could do it live even now (and I don't own decks) in a club/party whatever.

However, this doesn't take away from what DJs can do when they play live in person ... I liken it to bands releasing LPs of what are studio albums. No band feels the need to record a whole LP in 1 take to justify to anyone that they are worthy of the praise heaped on them. Djs shouldn't have to mix live for a release to feel like they're worthy as DJs ... it doesn't make that much sense.

The mix is important but it's really a given - most DJs can mix ... it's not really rocket science ... but the real value (I feel) is in programming and being able to put records together in a way that is unique ... and this skill can be expressed via studio or live mixes.

Freeland's Ess.Mix is awesome and at the time was pretty out there and progressive ... the guy can mix like a motherfucker and if you want an example check out Coastal Breaks or any of his sets around that time ... the guy was the king on 3 decks back before CDJs and was widely considered by most as technically pretty shit hot.

Evil - am not having a dig ... I know yr passionate about mixing records and actually mixing them, just putting forward an alternative view.

Additional edit ...

In terms of skill ... I also contest how vital this is in a lot of forms of music.

Lets look at guitar dudes ... Kurt Cobain was no Yngvie Malmstein ... but who will be remembered? Skills aren't everything - creativity/imagination is.

And in terms of marketablility ... this is really a given. Every entertainer/performer needs to be marketable. This isn't a negative - it's a reality.

Very well put, points awarded this round to Mr Sheppard, now awaiting crude rebuttle from Mr Evil.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:11 pm

tiggus85 wrote:
why did you give up djing?

wasn't enjoying it anymore + became a cantankerous old man ... so I thought it was good to go and meet my destiny

Mellogs · Post by **Mellogs** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:21 pm

Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it
You play the guitar on the mtv
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and chicks for free
Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy thats his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot hes a millionaire

We gotta install microwave ovesns
Custom kitchens deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

I shoulda learned to play the guitar
I shoulda learned to play them drums
Look at that mama, she got it stickin in the camera
Man we could have some fun
And hes up there, whats that? hawaiian noises?
Bangin on the bongoes like a chimpanzee
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Get your money for nothin get your chicks for free

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs, lord

Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
You play the guitar on the mtv
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and your chicks for free
Money for nothin and chicks for free

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:21 pm

I totally agree with you on this one sheppo

RMHC · Post by **RMHC** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:32 pm

shepherd wrote:
tiggus85 wrote:
why did you give up djing?
wasn't enjoying it anymore + became a cantankerous old man ... so I thought it was good to go and meet my destiny

fair enough, i always enjoyed the nights you did at the lounge...

surely you could still do the occasional gig without it hampering your new lifestyle

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:46 pm

tiggus85 wrote:
shepherd wrote:
tiggus85 wrote:
why did you give up djing?
wasn't enjoying it anymore + became a cantankerous old man ... so I thought it was good to go and meet my destiny

fair enough, i always enjoyed the nights you did at the lounge...

surely you could still do the occasional gig without it hampering your new lifestyle

His lifestyle involves being in bed by 10.30pm.

Maybe you could do a daytime gig Ben?

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