If you had $10,000 to put towards your music career....

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:08 pm

if you had a leg up of 10 grand to help you become a rockstar dj supernova...

What would you spend it on ??

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:25 pm

Good question.

Bucket loads o' coke, and a shitload of ho's....

Might as well live like a Rockstar for a brief period....

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:52 pm

30 seconds n its ova

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:57 pm

What is?

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:57 pm

Direktor wrote:Good question.

Bucket loads o' coke, and a shitload of ho's....

Add a video camera to that equation and you got a sure fire mixture for success Rob Lowe stylez!

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:11 pm

Done.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:20 pm

hire a string section I recon.

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:26 pm

flippo wrote:hire a string section I recon.

cool...
then you'll have a string section..

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:28 pm

To be serious... 10K.....

It's not a shitload of cashola in the scheme of things really (although I'd gladly take it!)...

Maybe throw a little around mastering, CD-production and marketing...

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:33 pm

Direktor wrote:To be serious... 10K.....

It's not a shitload of cashola in the scheme of things really (although I'd gladly take it!)...

Maybe throw a little around mastering, CD-production and marketing...

yeah but you need a deal..
what good is marketing if you don't have a catalogue number ?

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:38 pm

start own label?

LuKo · Post by **LuKo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:08 pm

^^ personnally looking at that nowish

with 10K:

2 X distressors

http://www.empiricallabs.com/distdes.html

and a TL audio desk the M1
http://www.tlaudio.co.uk/tlaudio/docs/p ... _05_06.htm

i can go on but you said only 10K

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:48 pm

ac23 wrote:weed + new monitors.

so enough cash left for 2nd hand pair of M-Audio BX5a then?

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:58 pm

Oh man, so easy...

$700 - Alesis M1 MKIIs - modest but acceptable monitors (Rogue Element can't be wrong)
$500 - SoundAcoustics RK1 room kit
$850 - UAD-1e Express Pak
$900 - Novation Remote SL 49
$300 - 2x Dell 19" monitors for my PC
$750 - Decent security system + insurance
$6000 - Taking 3-6 months off work (living like a poor student on baked beans + bread) + writing music every day, hopefully supplementing my income with DJing on the side

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:52 am

This thread is quite timely. Today I learned that I may soon be coming into some dosh, though not quite this much. When dad told me today, naturally I was like...

and a bit of

My plan thus far is roughly $3000 for a MacBook Pro and around $2000 (hopefully less) for a pair of PMC TB2S+. Down the track I'll want a UAD Xpander and maybe better amplification for the monitors, but those'll have to wait a while.

Post by **system** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:59 am

Special Hegg wrote:This thread is quite timely. Today I learned that I may soon be coming into some dosh, though not quite this much.

biggups Leigh!

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:25 am

flippo wrote:start own label?

Exactly.

Fuck deals mate.... Independent all the way (well, to begin with). Just have to hook up a distro.

If someone wants to offer a deal after that, then it's all down to negotiations.

I'd bet you'd get a better deal if you had more to offer from the beginning... Ie. a successful product.

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:56 am

decent monitors
Novation Remote SL 49
pad kontrol

Snowie · Post by **Snowie** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:51 pm

Special Hegg wrote:This thread is quite timely. Today I learned that I may soon be coming into some dosh, though not quite this much. When dad told me today, naturally I was like...

and a bit of

My plan thus far is roughly $3000 for a MacBook Pro and around $2000 (hopefully less) for a pair of PMC TB2S+. Down the track I'll want a UAD Xpander and maybe better amplification for the monitors, but those'll have to wait a while.

Hegg, mate you can for less money get better monitors and 10" sub, try having a lokk at KRK's, RP8's and a 10" will cost you around $1600, thay have a better frequency response and personally i think they are the tits. Yes i'm bias as i have a pair of rp8's and 10" sub.

Spherix · Post by **Spherix** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:00 pm

a1studmuffin wrote:Oh man, so easy...

$700 - Alesis M1 MKIIs - modest but acceptable monitors (Rogue Element can't be wrong)
$500 - SoundAcoustics RK1 room kit
$850 - UAD-1e Express Pak
$900 - Novation Remote SL 49
$300 - 2x Dell 19" monitors for my PC
$750 - Decent security system + insurance
$6000 - Taking 3-6 months off work (living like a poor student on baked beans + bread) + writing music every day, hopefully supplementing my income with DJing on the side

why get a room kit and all that other crap if youre gonna get bullshit monitors

seriously

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:49 pm

Mate, they're not bullshit monitors. Yes there are more expensive ones around, but without the proper studio to go with them, you're throwing your money away.

For a home setup (ie. small to medium spare room in a house), you'll get a *far* better listening environment out of a pair of $700 M1 MKIIs and some proper room treatment than you will from $5000 monitors with no room treatment.

If you disagree with that, it sounds like you need to hit the books.

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:20 pm

junglist fight:
seen
bare

fonk · Post by **fonk** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:51 am

Too easy, cos I'll be doing this in a few months:

Mac Pro
Apogee Ensemble (or something similar - haven't decided yet)

With a bit left over for coke.

Already got everything else I need. (it's just that it's all running on and into a shitty G4 with pretty crappy IO...)

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:00 am

a1studmuffin wrote:
For a home setup (ie. small to medium spare room in a house), you'll get a *far* better listening environment out of a pair of $700 M1 MKIIs and some proper room treatment than you will from $5000 monitors with no room treatment.

.

pffft...
you can have all the foam padding and egg cartons you want.
mix somthing on M1s and the mix won't translate..
Promise..

kronz · Post by **kronz** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:57 pm

feelslikeafukinrevolution wrote:
a1studmuffin wrote:
For a home setup (ie. small to medium spare room in a house), you'll get a *far* better listening environment out of a pair of $700 M1 MKIIs and some proper room treatment than you will from $5000 monitors with no room treatment.

.

pffft...
you can have all the foam padding and egg cartons you want.
mix somthing on M1s and the mix won't translate..
Promise..

There is no better listening environment that will compensate for the fake bass response of the M1's than removing the offending monitors.

Andrez · Post by **Andrez** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:10 pm

vodka, tonic, tootpicks, olives, and martini glasses.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:09 am

kronz wrote:
feelslikeafukinrevolution wrote:
a1studmuffin wrote:
For a home setup (ie. small to medium spare room in a house), you'll get a *far* better listening environment out of a pair of $700 M1 MKIIs and some proper room treatment than you will from $5000 monitors with no room treatment.

.

pffft...
you can have all the foam padding and egg cartons you want.
mix somthing on M1s and the mix won't translate..
Promise..
There is no better listening environment that will compensate for the fake bass response of the M1's than removing the offending monitors.

I'm sticking to my Seinheisers

unsoundbwoy · Post by **unsoundbwoy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:21 pm

mastering on 4 tracks
2 x 300 run 12"
new monitors
finish paying off that ticket for europe

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:56 pm

found a quote tool for vinyl pressing.

http://www.acousticweaponry.com/vinylpage-index2.htm

still gotta add mastering on to of that.

Gulp.....

Post by **lynt** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:55 pm

10k = time for me. Time to sit.

unsoundbwoy · Post by **unsoundbwoy** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:50 pm

there's also vinylfactory who can press half here and half in the UK.
cuts your carbon emmisions etc etc

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:44 am

Has anyone here actually heard the PMC's? I nearly cried when I heard them, A/B'ing between them and other good brand monitors. They even made the Dynaudio BM6's sound like a cheap ghettoblaster.

Honestly, fuck the price. I would sell my mother for a pair of TB2S.

Snowie · Post by **Snowie** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:39 pm

^^ Mate, seriously go have a listen to the KRK's. They honestly have a really good sound out of them.

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:48 pm

Snowie wrote:^^ Mate, seriously go have a listen to the KRK's. They honestly have a really good sound out of them.

um.. yeah I use KRK's .

I wouldn't say they sound good..
They're kinda 'Pokey' and not very detailed at all.
any EQjng I've really gotta do in headphones (not a bad Idea anyway)

BUT GOD DAMN IT, THEY TRANSLATE !!.

The mix is right when i play it on ANYTHING else.

Get the mix right on the Krks and it's right on anything.
People used to say that about NS10s and i can't stand how they sound..
i rate them really highly, but I doubt they'd impress in a shop, next to most other monitors. but after a few mixes you get to realise how good they are.
Martin at Edensound asked me 3 or 4 times what i was monitioring on, when we were mastering,
because my bass sat so well..
(P.S. i don't use a sub)

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:39 am

Re Vinyl..
My last Filmclip cost me $500 bucks.
300 records cost $3000.
so in theory, you could do 6 film clips for the cost of 300 records.
which would be better for your career ?

I'm not saying, you would do six film clips. but 2 or three and your CD printing will still come in under $3000,

you could also get about 15 adds in beat.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:42 am

Re: filmclips...

Would all depend on who's doing them yeah? I'm sure you can get cheaper, and we all know you can get much more expensive ones... but most of the genre's that producers on here would be covering don't usually do filmclips....

Not enough avenues to show them are there?

Spherix · Post by **Spherix** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:44 am

kronz wrote:
feelslikeafukinrevolution wrote:
a1studmuffin wrote:
For a home setup (ie. small to medium spare room in a house), you'll get a *far* better listening environment out of a pair of $700 M1 MKIIs and some proper room treatment than you will from $5000 monitors with no room treatment.

.

pffft...
you can have all the foam padding and egg cartons you want.
mix somthing on M1s and the mix won't translate..
Promise..
There is no better listening environment that will compensate for the fake bass response of the M1's than removing the offending monitors.

here here.

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:49 am

Direktor wrote:Re: filmclips...

Would all depend on who's doing them yeah? I'm sure you can get cheaper, and we all know you can get much more expensive ones... but most of the genre's that producers on here would be covering don't usually do filmclips....

Not enough avenues to show them are there?

yeah, my one. (currently being edited) is fukin funny so I'm prob gonna plug youtube as much as I can..
Rage $90 for a digibeta tape (all they accept) and you'll get 2-4 plays.
not bad if they play it late and you get a whole heap of clubbers coming down.
Channel V.... JTV maybe (if you are very Lucky)..

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:53 am

how do you figure rage will play 2-4 times?

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:56 am

flippo wrote:how do you figure rage will play 2-4 times?

I've had tracks played before.
My last band.

Also Nick has shot independant clips before, and you usually get a good couple of plays outta rage..
depending on the clip of course.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:15 pm

For sure.

Anyone see the clip John Safron made himself? He got that played on Rage - I'm sure if you've got a decent tune they'd play it.

TheBrains · Post by **TheBrains** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:34 pm

I'd spend it on music tuition, then mixdown time in a real studio with a bad arse engineer and then finally some very tidy mastering with a name guy once I'd written something decent enough to release.

Anything leftover would be spent on a PR plan / agent to shop it for me.

Luka · Post by **Luka** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:24 pm

music lessons / nice old analogue desk / ms20 / 303 / dp4 / nice eq'able distortion and maybe lots of cid

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:15 am

I'd use it to buy a nice pre amp. A hefty sound card. Some old condensor mikes. A nice comfy chair. Maybe spend the change on building a PC based setup to burn multiple CDr's and an Ink reservoir system to print on them..

paranoid edge · Post by **paranoid edge** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:43 pm

Direktor wrote:Good question.

Bucket loads o' coke, and a shitload of ho's....

Might as well live like a Rockstar for a brief period....

WORD!

I reckon I'd start my own label

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:01 pm

Spherix wrote:
kronz wrote:
feelslikeafukinrevolution wrote:
pffft...
you can have all the foam padding and egg cartons you want.
mix somthing on M1s and the mix won't translate..
Promise..
There is no better listening environment that will compensate for the fake bass response of the M1's than removing the offending monitors.
here here.

Well fine, I'd buy monitors with a better defined low end, but I'd still be very careful not to get ones that are too bass heavy given the room I'd be using, and I still think proper room treatment is *essential* for anyone to get the most out of their monitors, especially in home studios, and especially if you fork out for really expensive monitors.

JoyRiderz · Post by **JoyRiderz** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:41 pm

BAREFOOT MicroMain 27 - Only 10k for the pair!

Description 3-way active monitor with integral subs

Frequency Response 38 Hz - 20 kHz (+/- 1.5 dB) Bass Response -3 dB @ 33 Hz

Q = 0.707

Slope: 12 dB/octave

Cabinet 31 liters total internal volume, Sealed sub enclosure, Individual sealed midbass enclosures, Machined aluminum baffle plate

Crossover Frequencies 110/2500 Hz

Tweeter 1" soft dome, Magnetic shielding, Rear waveguide chamber

Power: 125 W

Dual Midbasses 5" poly cones, Magnetic shielding

Power: 250 W

Dual Subwoofers 10" aluminum cones, Magnetic shielding

Power: 500 W

Weight 62 lbs each (28 kg)

Dimensions

HxWxD 20.5 x 9.0 x 15 inches (521 x 229 x 381 mm)

http://www.awave.com.au/product_info.ph ... c547eb898a

Smile on Impact · Post by **Smile on Impact** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:46 pm

$10,000 to help you become a Dj Supernova Legand Love pimp.. and you'd buy monitors ??

hmm...

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:00 pm

JoyRiderz wrote:BAREFOOT MicroMain 27 - Only 10k for the pair!

Description 3-way active monitor with integral subs

Frequency Response 38 Hz - 20 kHz (+/- 1.5 dB) Bass Response -3 dB @ 33 Hz

Q = 0.707

Slope: 12 dB/octave

Cabinet 31 liters total internal volume, Sealed sub enclosure, Individual sealed midbass enclosures, Machined aluminum baffle plate

Crossover Frequencies 110/2500 Hz

Tweeter 1" soft dome, Magnetic shielding, Rear waveguide chamber

Power: 125 W

Dual Midbasses 5" poly cones, Magnetic shielding

Power: 250 W

Dual Subwoofers 10" aluminum cones, Magnetic shielding

Power: 500 W

Weight 62 lbs each (28 kg)

Dimensions

HxWxD 20.5 x 9.0 x 15 inches (521 x 229 x 381 mm)

http://www.awave.com.au/product_info.ph ... c547eb898a

Are these the ones the blew Steller away mate?

JoyRiderz · Post by **JoyRiderz** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:51 pm

yep, these are the ones.

And Sony Mastering and Electric Avenue.

they are awesome.