Tunes you just can't seem to mix right!

Focus · Post by **Focus** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:30 pm

Are there any tunes that you just can't seem to mix in time?

Mayhem and Kiko - Echelon

I can't seem to get this one right.

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:34 pm

That Nu:Tone release on New Identity

where the bloody tempo drops to a house-beat half way through !

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:47 pm

Kraken - Side Effects (second drop).

I have no fucking idea where the first bar of the second drop is.

quick · Post by **quick** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:54 pm

Focus wrote:Are there any tunes that you just can't seem to mix in time?

Mayhem and Kiko - Echelon

I can't seem to get this one right.

haha werd, that tune is a cunt to mix, it just doesn't sound right...

Alot of Kemal tunes are tricky to mix cos he uses sooo much random sounding precussion.

valuetime · Post by **valuetime** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:04 pm

marky & xrs - butterfly.

something about the beat... even if it's in time, it sounds out of time.

downtime · Post by **downtime** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:04 pm

That Nu:Tone release on New Identity

where the bloody tempo drops to a house-beat half way through !

Yeah wierd eh? I've thought the same thing before... but you can still mix on either side, and it's a wicked track... Haven't heard it played out much thought...

calstro · Post by **calstro** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:13 pm

Every tune....

quick · Post by **quick** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:13 pm

Ohh and Ink - Ice Age, sick tune but the beat just starts randomly???

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:27 pm

The start of Temple of Doom from Fresh - that wierd Indian percussion just doesn't sit right in my head...

The start of Papua New Guinea (High Contast RMX) - up until Cliffery showed me, I didn't think it was a 4/4 time sig. It is - just that the stabs don't always go on the downbeat...

I definately feel like Calstro (with his comment) a lot of the time though!!!!

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:33 pm

calstro wrote:Every tune....

lol

me too.

Focus · Post by **Focus** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:33 pm

quick wrote:Ohh and Ink - Ice Age, sick tune but the beat just starts randomly???

Yeah forgot about that one, never was able to get that in time properly either.

quick · Post by **quick** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:36 pm

Boymerang - Still has a second drop out of nowhere, doesn't fit anything, it just drops randomly???

And the First drop of Sugizo - Metaphysical Missing (Grooverider Remix), dunno why it doesn't drop on time???

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:10 pm

anyone have any issues with Jaheim - Put ur woman First (Calibre Rmx)

i dunno if its just my copy, but it starts on an off-bar ???

Scholtzy · Post by **Scholtzy** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:28 pm

Outrage - Patients

All this ambient stuff for about a minute, then it drops, but ive managed to figure out how to time the ambient "dong" sounds so its all good.

Penno · Post by **Penno** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:54 pm

I don't know if you guys are really into dubby house stuff but a few Kangos Stein Massiv records I got are sluts to mix... one of my mates summed it up "it's just echo effects and random drums... it's like a song made of nothing"

I know what you mean though sometimes if there's delay on just one hat or some shit it sounds like ming.

TimmyG · Post by **TimmyG** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:02 pm

I've never really had a problem mixing Echelon. The first sound on the record is on the first beat as far as I remember...

Genetix - Structures on the other hand... Try and find a starting beat in that intro.

kingsley · Post by **kingsley** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:28 pm

dom & roland - moulin rouge

used to really give me troubles - haven't tried for a long time though

...probably because I could never mix it properly

Spherix · Post by **Spherix** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:29 pm

i love tunes that confuse you dj types

ie most implex tunes ever

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:53 pm

kingsley wrote:
used to really give me troubles - haven't tried for a long time though

...probably because I could never mix it properly

yea so true,

it could be the dopest track ever, but u will always be less inclined to play it if it is a bitch to mix !!!

spazz · Post by **spazz** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:07 pm

Spherix wrote:i love tunes that confuse you dj types

ie most implex tunes ever

ooh thats just nasty!!

Lindemon · Post by **Lindemon** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:30 pm

Perception by Quantic on Tru-thoughs- that intro is there to mock us all. & then it does it again half way thru the track. Cool tune but.
" It seems that when the bombs fall..." do dodo do dooo.. I love horns in DnB

johnnynostars · Post by **johnnynostars** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:39 pm

Lindemon wrote:Perception by Quantic on Tru-thoughs- that intro is there to mock us all. & then it does it again half way thru the track. Cool tune but.
" It seems that when the bombs fall..." do dodo do dooo.. I love horns in DnB

Tune!

Have you noticed also that the vocals seem out of time if the drums are in and vice versa? Or is it just me?

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:42 am

TimmyG wrote:Genetix - Structures on the other hand... Try and find a starting beat in that intro.

word. tis tricky.

ctoafn_DMZ · Post by **ctoafn_DMZ** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:02 pm

Can't Punish Me - Dom and Roland - I have never got that one right (Keir did at Kombat Radio, I shoudla been paying more attention and saw you do it).

Konflict - Messiah (Original rmx) - No hi hat markers or nothing and unless you just wanna drop it in at the "aahhhhhhhhhh" without the ambient bit at the start, its real hard to get but if you do that its pointless cause you need to hear that one coming in.

johnnynostars · Post by **johnnynostars** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:16 pm

ctoafn_DMZ wrote:Can't Punish Me - Dom and Roland - I have never got that one right (Keir did at Kombat Radio, I shoudla been paying more attention and saw you do it).

I reckon you gotta skip the confusering intro and just cue it up at the strings...

ATP · Post by **ATP** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:38 am

Nu:tone seven years, could be my copy though!! SO slow in bits

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:49 am

johnnynostars wrote:
ctoafn_DMZ wrote:Can't Punish Me - Dom and Roland - I have never got that one right (Keir did at Kombat Radio, I shoudla been paying more attention and saw you do it).
I reckon you gotta skip the confusering intro and just cue it up at the strings...

U cue "Cant punish Me" at that Deeeeer Deee Deee Dooo bit at the start.....works everytime.

beatski · Post by **beatski** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:33 pm

ha ha aha ha!!! Usually happens when your seeing 6 turntables and 3 mixers and can't quite work out which turntable the record goes on!

Amick · Post by **Amick** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:19 pm

You know those choons with the 4x4 beat, they play it in chapel street a lot, house music I think you call it? Those 4x4 beats are tricky man!

Zero Hour · Post by **Zero Hour** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:37 pm

Theres a J-Laze tune on Focuz called 'Naomi's tune' and if u wanna skip alot of synths at the start and cut to the beats the cue point is nestled in this delayed bongo sample.....i dunno where but I kinda gotta aim for the middle of the sample for the beats to come out right. Production is tight and u gotta key match as for alot of atmos. stuff but it comes out so ace when done right.

Beachdrifta is another tricky one. U gotta match that piano, strings + bassline with no beats then bang...the beats start. The bassline is enuff to go with though.

on tour · Post by **on tour** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:47 am

Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:36 am

on tour wrote:Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...

Or venetian snares that time FMF dropped it and made u mix into it...

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:15 am

on tour wrote:Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...

Yeah that "live drum" bit.

Does my head in, you just have to discipline yourself and not touch it, cause it is probably OK.

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:04 pm

on tour wrote:Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...

Agreed. Bitch of a tune that one.

SoulWhiteMan · Post by **SoulWhiteMan** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:19 pm

mrj wrote:
calstro wrote:Every tune....
lol

me too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 60-6159600

calstro · Post by **calstro** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:21 pm

A book aint gonna help.

Some decent dex, some new plates and maybe some spare time would see a dif. But I don't think I'll be getting any of them.

quotient · Post by **quotient** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:31 pm

Fents wrote:U cue "Cant punish Me" at that Deeeeer Deee Deee Dooo bit at the start.....works everytime.

the man speaks the truth.

ctoafn_DMZ · Post by **ctoafn_DMZ** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:17 pm

Fents wrote:
johnnynostars wrote:
ctoafn_DMZ wrote:Can't Punish Me - Dom and Roland - I have never got that one right (Keir did at Kombat Radio, I shoudla been paying more attention and saw you do it).
I reckon you gotta skip the confusering intro and just cue it up at the strings...
U cue "Cant punish Me" at that Deeeeer Deee Deee Dooo bit at the start.....works everytime.

Cool - I'll give it some crack - I meant a crack

beatski wrote:ha ha aha ha!!! Usually happens when your seeing 6 turntables and 3 mixers and can't quite work out which turntable the record goes on!

????

on tour · Post by **on tour** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:10 pm

Fents wrote:
on tour wrote:Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...
Or venetian snares that time FMF dropped it and made u mix into it...

Um, yes, i remember that. Hence my rule of leaving the last tune of the previous set to play until the end is actually useful when playing after Fred M...

Fents · Post by **Fents** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:52 am

on tour wrote:
Fents wrote:
on tour wrote:Treat Me Mean on Hospital is always a fun one to mix...
Or venetian snares that time FMF dropped it and made u mix into it...
Um, yes, i remember that. Hence my rule of leaving the last tune of the previous set to play until the end is actually useful when playing after Fred M...

But its not like u have ever left someone like say ummm Rux with a FLAT OUT FUCKED tune to mix into is it lex??? ohhhh no u would never do that???

b.dot · Post by **b.dot** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:10 pm

man ... i've been trying to drop some jungle nonsense over Snow - Informer but the prick sings 15 bar verses and things ... frustrating ... but fun all the same!!

Focus · Post by **Focus** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:50 pm

b.dot wrote:man ... i've been trying to drop some jungle nonsense over Snow - Informer but the prick sings 15 bar verses and things ... frustrating ... but fun all the same!!

I used to love snow.

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:54 pm

isnt it snow doing the vocals in jonny l - back to your roots??

saintberry · Post by **saintberry** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:30 pm

Laroque: Goldfinger, is always a bit of a cunny as is DJ Zinc: Freenote. actually i lie, freenote is pretty easy.

Dope Skillz: New Skull is just pressed wrong. there is a wasted bar @ the start of the song that you need to skip. but is an easy tune to mix.

but yeah by far the hardest tune i have ever popped into a set was

Aphex Twin: To Cure A Weakling Child, Contour Regard the stereo panning @ the start just puts you right off but awesome tune!

saintberry · Post by **saintberry** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:33 pm

andycole23_steve wrote:Barrington Levy - Here I Come (Remix) on Congo Natty
i dunno why, it never sounds right with anything.

a lot of old jungle can put you off: solution...mix old skool UK happy for 3 or so years. nothing better to help you decipher those layered amens

ctoafn_DMZ · Post by **ctoafn_DMZ** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:00 pm

Focus wrote:
b.dot wrote:man ... i've been trying to drop some jungle nonsense over Snow - Informer but the prick sings 15 bar verses and things ... frustrating ... but fun all the same!!
I used to love snow.

OMG - Snow. Informer was the first ever single (cassette) that I bought. I thought he got dead ages ago?

same o · Post by **same o** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:17 am

valuetime wrote:marky & xrs - butterfly.

something about the beat... even if it's in time, it sounds out of time.

i dont think that i have ever had a problem with that tune...
apart from that, some breakin tune scholtzy just got... really dont even sound like d'n;b........

Jonny Faith · Post by **Jonny Faith** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:03 pm

Lindemon wrote:Perception by Quantic on Tru-thoughs- that intro is there to mock us all. & then it does it again half way thru the track. Cool tune but.
" It seems that when the bombs fall..." do dodo do dooo.. I love horns in DnB

What a fine tune indeed

For mixing purposes I usually stick with Nu Tone RMX of this as it doesn't have that drum role sample in it anywhere

It's also a very nice relick with some extra smooth keys added, and the bass really improved too. Hmmmm think I might play this out tonight now I've been thinking bout it.

factory worker · Post by **factory worker** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:48 pm

Fents wrote:
on tour wrote:
Fents wrote: Or venetian snares that time FMF dropped it and made u mix into it...
Um, yes, i remember that. Hence my rule of leaving the last tune of the previous set to play until the end is actually useful when playing after Fred M...
But its not like u have ever left someone like say ummm Rux with a FLAT OUT FUCKED tune to mix into is it lex??? ohhhh no u would never do that???

or just mix every tune in the drop out or the fade out, only trainspotters give a fuck anyhow......

Lindemon · Post by **Lindemon** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:05 pm

That's a good point FW, 1 of the best DJ's I've ever seen, the almighty Keb Darge, didn't worry about tight beatmixes, cause every track he played was absolute FUNKin brilliance, he'd just fade out, tell the crowd what the next track is (which is cool, heaps o'DJ's are far to precious about what tunes are in their box. e.g-Freq Nasty wouldn't tell me who the breaks remix of 'Inner city Life' was done by, which led me to believe it was him..)
& continue to FUNK our brains out, no-one remembers your mixes( unless your a mash-up whizz a-la-2ManyDj's), if your tunes are wicked enough..
Has anyone else heard the 'Legend of the Pissbucket' regarding Keb?

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