Wireless Internet, Hotspots and the new Testra Cable...

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:05 pm

Just downloaded downloaded 56.3MB in 2min 33sec @ 380KB/sec.
That has to be the quickest I have ever downlaoded anything.
Just got me thinking about who uses what connections, who gets what speeds.
Who uses Wireless routers, and also what hotspots around Melbourne are good for use.

I know Miss Libertines offers free wireless hotspot and have a1 connnection, anywhere else you recommend?

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:07 pm

McDonalds and Starbucks

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:15 pm

^ so what's the go at those places (excuse the ignorance)... can you just download as much stuff as you like for free?

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:16 pm

Nah you have to pay. No idea how much I've got a free account.

Pretty dope tho. Coverage is pretty much most of the CBD.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:17 pm

So it's a free wireless hotspot where you have to pay?

What exactly is free about it?

EDIT: is it free up to a point perhaps?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:19 pm

Lounge.

you have to buy a coffee or summin, but tis fast and free for as long or as much downloads as you want after that...

tis naice on the balcony, with little birds, beer and smoke and mac.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:21 pm

Direktor wrote:So it's a free wireless hotspot where you have to pay?

What exactly is free about it?

EDIT: is it free up to a point perhaps?

It's a wireless hotspot.

It's not free.

Post by **lynt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:40 pm

I was clocking 1.3Mb/s from Apple.com on the weekend.

Wireless router to my Macbook. I have gotten faster with iiNet ADSL 2+, though.

As for hotspots, haven't really used any, but I can safely say we are so far behind the rest of the planet, it's just too depressing to even attemped a CBD hotspot (not including private businesses offering free wifi like the Lounge, E-55, Workshop, Blackcat, etc etc..)

jungle_tactics · Post by **jungle_tactics** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:50 pm

I use a NewsGroup server in conjunction with my ADSL2+ and get a
consistant 2megabytes a second.

It's great, you can have a full feature length 700mb movie done in 6 minutes.

The Newsgroup is great too, has everything I could ever want. Games, Movies, TV.

I've yet to search for something that it doesn't have.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:56 pm

lynt wrote: As for hotspots, haven't really used any, but I can safely say we are so far behind the rest of the planet, it's just too depressing to even attemped a CBD hotspot (not including private businesses offering free wifi like the Lounge, E-55, Workshop, Blackcat, etc etc..)

i seem to have misunderstood.

my bad.

retract earlier shameless plug...

almax · Post by **almax** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:03 pm

has anyone got they unwired modem and setup that has been cained in advertising media of late? interested to know how good/bad it is and if its expensive

Post by **breaksRbest** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:11 pm

It took me about 5 - 6 minutes to d/load a 600Mb file

I'm on iiNet ADLS2+ and have a Wireless Router

I did a test on the router and apparently I'm not getting the D/L speeds that I should be

I don't really 'need' it to be any faster than that, but if it it wants to I wont stop it

[edit: and as for wireless hotspots, 5 Star Hotels are always a good bet. I've sat out the front of several and 'stolen' their connection. You can also buy Hotspot Detectors so you can walk/drive around and it will tell you when you're in range of one. Never used it though]

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:26 pm

jbs wrote:
Direktor wrote:So it's a free wireless hotspot where you have to pay?

What exactly is free about it?

EDIT: is it free up to a point perhaps?
It's a wireless hotspot.

It's not free.

Genuinely confused here.

Why does Kitty and Dboy say it's free @ Lounge & Miss L's?

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:33 pm

I've had downloads at around 500 kilobit/sec with iinet. But ultimately it seems to depend on how fast the site you're downloading from can upload.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:37 pm

Direktor wrote:
jbs wrote:
Direktor wrote:So it's a free wireless hotspot where you have to pay?

What exactly is free about it?

EDIT: is it free up to a point perhaps?
It's a wireless hotspot.

It's not free.
Genuinely confused here.

Why does Kitty and Dboy say it's free @ Lounge & Miss L's?

I was refering to Telstra hotspots.

Post by **lynt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:51 pm

Direktor wrote:
jbs wrote:
Direktor wrote:So it's a free wireless hotspot where you have to pay?

What exactly is free about it?

EDIT: is it free up to a point perhaps?
It's a wireless hotspot.

It's not free.
Genuinely confused here.

Why does Kitty and Dboy say it's free @ Lounge & Miss L's?

Because they pay a provider, and you pay them (via means of purchasing a coffee, beer, etc).

It's not free from Telstra, Optus, etc.

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:55 pm

No I gathered it wasn't free from the provider.

Understand it's a marketing tool for clubs/bars/cafe's etc to bring people in and hopefully fleece them for coin.

Just wasn't sure on limits etc... thankyou all.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:06 pm

almax wrote:has anyone got they unwired modem and setup that has been cained in advertising media of late? interested to know how good/bad it is and if its expensive

I was thinking about this too, if i moved into a new house and did not want to get a phone line.

My mate has 'wireless' - he says it is ok for his needs, emails and web, not downlaoding. It is a return to the low limit and slow speeds once the limit is broken I believe.

Any other providers doing wireless into homes with out a phone line?

Post by **system** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:23 pm

jbs wrote:McDonalds and Starbucks

are either of those free? starbucks still use telstra, from what i remember. mcdonalds use azure.

there was a push for free council sponsored wireless internet access though.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:26 pm

system wrote:
jbs wrote:McDonalds and Starbucks
are either of those free? starbucks still use telstra, from what i remember. mcdonalds use azure.

there was a push for free council sponsored wireless internet access though.

As I said above, no not free.

both Telstra.

Post by **system** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:30 pm

DBoy wrote:Any other providers doing wireless into homes with out a phone line?

virgin are, as do iburst, but they're all pretty slow really.

(bring on mesh networks.)

Post by **system** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:31 pm

jbs wrote:As I said above, no not free.

both Telstra.

skimmed the posts, sorry.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:53 pm

Direktor wrote: Understand it's a marketing tool for clubs/bars/cafe's etc to bring people in and hopefully fleece them for coin.

Just wasn't sure on limits etc... thankyou all.

hehehe were not sure on our limits either....

ummm...

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:00 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:
Direktor wrote: Understand it's a marketing tool for clubs/bars/cafe's etc to bring people in and hopefully fleece them for coin.

Just wasn't sure on limits etc... thankyou all.
hehehe were not sure on our limits either....

ummm...

Awesome!

I'll be in pronto, order one pot and then D/L heaps of music, pr0n, moofies and software.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:04 pm

my fault > did someone say i should keep my muoth shut more often ??

oh wait, that was ME!

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:07 pm

ArrBee · Post by **ArrBee** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:37 pm

Anyone tried real world performance of the NextG network? maybe with a PCMCIA card or something.
I understand the theorectical maximum speed is supposed to be pretty amazing.

Post by **huge** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:54 pm

im using a telstra next g card at the moment. its flat out. basically wireless adsl2+

hella $$$ tho not worth it unless your work is paying.

Post by **fooishbar** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:13 pm

theoretical maximum of hsdpa is ridiculous, though most rollouts are only 3.6MBit or 1.8MBit/sec.

Post by **huge** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:23 pm

yer getting about 3.6 here.

Post by **fooishbar** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:25 pm

so when you said 24mbit down, you meant 3.6.

Post by **huge** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:28 pm

im in canberra.

i think the fastest i got in brissy was around 10

stovequeen · Post by **stovequeen** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 pm

huge wrote:im using a telstra next g card at the moment. its flat out. basically wireless adsl2+

hella $$$ tho not worth it unless your work is paying.

yep me too. And ditto.. very expensive.

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:43 pm

http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/ ... 7/1903655/

Post by **system** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:42 pm

ArrBee wrote:Anyone tried real world performance of the NextG network? maybe with a PCMCIA card or something.
I understand the theorectical maximum speed is supposed to be pretty amazing.

it's great in inner city sydney or melbourne.

not so good as soon as you get outside those areas.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:01 pm

I have had 1700Kb/s with TPG.... fitzroy area.

dunno about speeds here as we currently only use a standard ADSL modem on an ADSL 2+ connection. Turns out a standard modem can actually go up to 8mb/s if you have it connected to a network that supports those speeds.

ArrBee · Post by **ArrBee** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:00 am

stovequeen wrote:
huge wrote:im using a telstra next g card at the moment. its flat out. basically wireless adsl2+

hella $$$ tho not worth it unless your work is paying.
yep me too. And ditto.. very expensive.

There should be some competition soon.
hopefully that will bring the prices down.

unsoundbwoy · Post by **unsoundbwoy** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:06 pm

almax wrote:has anyone got they unwired modem and setup that has been cained in advertising media of late? interested to know how good/bad it is and if its expensive

i use unwired, got given the modem.
pretty reliable
not so fast (only a 512k connection)
not so cheap (2gb a month for $55 or 12gb for $90 at 512k)

but this way i don't need a home phone and i'm not locked into anything.

unwired is fine if you're happy with a fairly slow (80k/s) fairly expensive connection.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:30 pm

unsoundbwoy wrote:unwired is fine if you're happy with a fairly slow (80k/s) fairly expensive connection.

slow AND expensive?

Where do I sign!!!!!!

Post by **lynt** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:09 pm

Holy shit, I just downloaded a 17 track album off iTunes in under 30 seconds.

Make that 48 songs (3 albums + a few singles) in just over a minute.

:hugs adsl2+:

saintberry · Post by **saintberry** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:58 pm

its pretty depressing to know that the average connection speed in south korea is 75Mbits/s...

all we have is Helen Coonan telling us that "most" Australians have access to "fast" connection speeds.

bah.

HSDPA is great for mobile communications but a joke for anything else. we need fiber... stat.

mecka · Post by **mecka** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:01 pm

saintberry wrote:its pretty depressing to know that the average connection speed in south korea is 75Mbits/s...

Starcraft is a demanding game.

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:42 pm

I was once downloaded Commander Keen 5 in about 4 minutes on a dialup that usually went at about 2-3ks/s. It was weird..

mixtress · Post by **mixtress** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:50 pm

grooki wrote:I was once downloaded Commander Keen 5 in about 4 minutes on a dialup that usually went at about 2-3ks/s. It was weird..

I love Commander Keen

But the original one, with the lollies and the bad vegetables that try kill you

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:04 pm

grooki wrote:I was once downloaded Commander Keen 5 in about 4 minutes on a dialup that usually went at about 2-3ks/s. It was weird..

lol. Commander keen 5 could fit on a floppy disc.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:26 pm

you're a floppy disc

nic · Post by **nic** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:28 pm

Post by **huge** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:30 pm

i have all the comander keens now.

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:28 am

It was the game of my youth. I even used to play to version of Pong that they had in the menu

sigh....

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:16 am

I'm beginning to think these days I'd be happier with slower speeds (512+) if I still had a decent monthly download limit (20+ Gb).

However, all the ISPs seem to have decided that fast speeds and small quotas are the way to go.