iPhone.. zomg

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:40 pm

i am scared of plans jameeessss!!!

salary sacrifice, i heave heard this term but know not what it means.

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:54 pm

I'm no an expert either.

In my experience it works like this (there are variations with the same endcost ie: you buy the item rather than your work. I work in a tech company though, so not much point in this):

Your work buys your phone for you.
They deduct the pre-gst cost from your salary before tax either as one lump sum or over several weeks / months (I don't think you can deduct more than 50% of a pay at once). So you are not taxed on this amount (which would normally be about 30%)
Your work does some sort of claim to the tax department. Not sure how this bit works. Would like to, anyone?

You can do one PDA OR Laptop per year.

You end up saving GST plus a percentage based on how much you are taxed.

So an iPhone 3GS 16GB would be $879.00 in the shop.

Salary Sacrifice you get it for pre GST of $799 - $239.70 (as you don't pay 30% income tax on this money as per usual).

So you get it for $559.

Can anyone comment on this? Is this right? HELLO NIC????

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:04 pm

it's where your boss buys you the thing and takes it out of you pay BEFORE tax... so you don't pay tax on the amount and you usually get better deals on the equipment. Most companies offer it through an extenal service like this one... http://www.smartsalary.com.au/

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:08 pm

heh. i am paid cash.

maybe i wait till my tax meeting next friday and suss it out with almax's creative accountant dude?

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm

nah, don't bother about salary sacrifice if you aren't on a salary... just get the $79 business cap and stop being a pussy... you spend that much (or more) on your mobile each month anyways.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm

but i AM a pussy dan!

i currently spend $50 monthly or every 3 weeks or so.

the $59 cap with optus means $9 per month for handset and $14 for insurance.
thats $85 per month with no internet tethering. then kev said i should pay $99 and get everything inclusive.
BUT this is twice what i currently spend, and no salary means i am earning fuck all atm.

checked into 3, they were VERY unhelpful. it costs $200 for them to unlock, optus is free.
3 seems like a cheaper deal, $5 for handset and $49 per month, but only 250mb so upgrade to optus' 750mb means it ends up being
$49 + 5 + 6 = $60 + insurance. cant find anything on 3's insurance costs. I kind of think 3 sucks. Not sure why.

do you guys have yours insured?

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm

hhahaha just been told i can get 'hooked up' with one outright for $600, and then go on TPG prepaid.

anyone know if this is a god idea?

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:the $59 cap with optus means $9 per month for handset and $14 for insurance.
thats $85 per month with no internet tethering. then kev said i should pay $99 and get everything inclusive.
BUT this is twice what i currently spend, and no salary means i am earning fuck all atm.

i'm with optus, and mine tethers just fine ...

i have insurance, currently on the non-cap $79 plan (due to international rates being the same as domestic rates) + insurance + upgrade to 2gb data. $0 handset repayments even with a 12mo contract and a 16gb phone (got last year).

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm

How can they even tell if you are tethering it?

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm

JAMESSSS wrote:How can they even tell if you are tethering it?

they can restrict it on the phone, but if you're using beta releases of the OS, you can upload your own carrier definition file.

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm

(also, note that optus don't have any 3gs stock at all. waste.)

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:51 pm

fooishbar wrote:
ghetto kitty wrote:the $59 cap with optus means $9 per month for handset and $14 for insurance.
thats $85 per month with no internet tethering. then kev said i should pay $99 and get everything inclusive.
BUT this is twice what i currently spend, and no salary means i am earning fuck all atm.

i'm with optus, and mine tethers just fine ...

i have insurance, currently on the non-cap $79 plan (due to international rates being the same as domestic rates) + insurance + upgrade to 2gb data. $0 handset repayments even with a 12mo contract and a 16gb phone (got last year).

yes, but you have to pay $10 a month to be 'allowed' to tether or summat?

and the 3gs ARE coming in, but optus literally get 15 a week in the CBD and they are first in best dressed.
the 3gs, you cant get $0 handset unless your on a huge plan.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:27 pm

I got $0 on $79

do the math...

over one year....

52/3 = 17.333 x $50 = $866.67

$79 x 12 = $948

$948 - $866.67 = $81.33

that's pretty cheap for a new phone... PLUS you'll get heaps more calls etc, better rates and the rest... PLUS you'll get MEGA SATISFACTION EVERY DAY

WIN

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:32 pm

Oh, so you took over Karl's job when he left.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:42 pm

what? touting the benefits of iphones on web forums?

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:54 pm

Kitty I suggest you get an iPhone on virgin. They run on the optus network so coverage is identical and tethering is completely free, and you get better included calls/sms and data allowance. Trying to make people pay $10/month for something that free and doesn't cost them any money to support, pfft optus can bang it.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:54 pm

putting it simply (without all the tech jargon I don't understand)

Before: Optus. Nokia N70. $79 Cap, $600 worth of calls & text

After: Optus. iPhone. $79 Cap, $600 worth of calls & text PLUS 800Mb of intermawebs (that I've never come close to using)

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:42 am

deviant wrote:anyone else got "words with friends"?

good scrabble clone... my nick is "deviant" is anyone wants a game

so addicted!

I yam Tashish - play your move!

@MILCO@ · Post by **@MILCO@** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:34 am

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

@MILCO@ · Post by **@MILCO@** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:42 am

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

i love my iphone 3gs but i kinda wish i waited to get this bad boy, iphone killer for sure, runs android software ( open source) cheaper than a iphone and also accepts memory cards....

specs

http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:49 am

@MILCO@ wrote:
Watch the posted video on YouTube.

I just used this to set up free tethering. works a charm.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:52 pm

I dropped my regular phone on concrete and snow many times on the weekend.

I just dont know if I should be getting in with the iphone club with that track record.

hahahah.

amzie · Post by **amzie** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:57 pm

i got home contents insurance (that included loss/theft/accidental breakage of phone) before I let myself get an Iphone. I cant be trusted!

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:57 pm

yes amzie, im starting to think i cant be either.

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:05 pm

mrj.. wicked thanks i didnt knowq u could do that..

I just found a site that emais the config file to you, depending on your carrier.

hope they dont block it..

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:11 pm

ghetto kitty wrote:I dropped my regular phone on concrete and snow many times on the weekend.

I just dont know if I should be getting in with the iphone club with that track record.

hahahah.

I dropped my iPhone flat on the screen on to concrete and managed to shatter the screen... Was so pissed off because apple don't have anything in place to get it repaired you just have to deal with it or buy a new iphone. It still worked fine but I decided to order the glass online and repair it myself. Back to like new now, although I really should get some kind of case or skin to prevent it happening again...

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:17 pm

errr...what's tethering and why should i get it?

mecka · Post by **mecka** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:19 pm

you prolly wont need it unless you're using your phone as a modem.

Post by **system** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:20 pm

Jinx wrote:Kitty I suggest you get an iPhone on virgin. They run on the optus network so coverage is identical and tethering is completely free, and you get better included calls/sms and data allowance. Trying to make people pay $10/month for something that free and doesn't cost them any money to support, pfft optus can bang it.

regardless of the pricing plans, optus have owned virgin mobile for the past ~12 months.

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:42 pm

system wrote:
Jinx wrote:Kitty I suggest you get an iPhone on virgin. They run on the optus network so coverage is identical and tethering is completely free, and you get better included calls/sms and data allowance. Trying to make people pay $10/month for something that free and doesn't cost them any money to support, pfft optus can bang it.
regardless of the pricing plans, optus have owned virgin mobile for the past ~12 months.

This is true. However, since being taken over by Optus I haven't noticed any change in Virgin. It would appear they run Virgin independent of Optus (when I worked for Optus we had nothing to do with Virgin) Hence you can tether iPhone on virgin for free for example.

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:28 pm

system wrote:regardless of the pricing plans, optus have owned virgin mobile for the past ~12 months.

its kind of sad that when i read this I thought you meant pwned, rather than owned. too much forumspeak

Amick · Post by **Amick** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:38 am

hehehe

BOOM!!!

VIRGIN MOBILE HEADSHOT!!!

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:28 am

i can has tethering

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:33 am

does it reeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally matter who owns the telco? so many niggling semantics. who cares? all prob owned by the same wanker in the end.
they're all crooks tbh.

smashed some new apps last night.
- camera bag is pretty cool
- ted app could be good too
- drinking games ftw
- grindr - find gay boys in your area. w00t! wish i had a weiner. some of them are hawt.

more of you need word with friends - i'm hopelessly addicted.

iphone ftmfw.

must upgrade to the fast freshie soon. needs more memory. 8gig snot enough.

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:10 am

Hey Witty, I've got words with friends. Play it a fair bit. My username is YouAgainstMe - if you're ever looking for someone to play against.

almax · Post by **almax** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:11 am

chess with friends anyone?

menace · Post by **menace** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:14 am

how long are crew getting battery life out of a 32gs ? im struggling 2 get 5 hours a day .... i need more for work purposes ?

andy_hoffman · Post by **andy_hoffman** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:29 am

witty_pseudonym wrote: - camera bag is pretty cool

Camera bag is awesome! Only use this. Got some really simple effects that just look great!
Also got Vintage Shift which is a tilt shift filtering app which looks pretty sweet!

a1studmuffin · Post by **a1studmuffin** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:43 pm

menace wrote:how long are crew getting battery life out of a 32gs ? im struggling 2 get 5 hours a day .... i need more for work purposes ?

Are you for real? Is the battery life on the 3GS that bad compared to the 3G?!

yenks · Post by **yenks** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:06 pm

Ive decided to join the masses and get an iphone.

cant be arssed reading this whole thread.

im confused on whos the best/cheapest, virgin or optus or 3 ?

Virgin seems to be all sold out till mid sep.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:31 pm

heh, it aint that simple yenksy!

but when you find the answer, be sure and let me know!

mecka · Post by **mecka** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:23 pm

Made an appointment with the Geniusbar at Apple Doncaster tomorrow to fix my phone. Fingers crossed for a replacement - the screen is fucked. Not cracked, but parts of it have lost sensitivity meaning I can't type, or access texts, or see who I've missed a call from and left ALL of Lady Gaga's 'Lovegame' on my voicemail.

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:00 pm

mecka.

They now have the ability to fix most screen related stuff in store, within half an hour..

f u want a shiny one.. tell them it's alsoe doing other weird things such as adjusting the volume randomly or something along those lines..

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:33 pm

a1studmuffin wrote:
menace wrote:how long are crew getting battery life out of a 32gs ? im struggling 2 get 5 hours a day .... i need more for work purposes ?
Are you for real? Is the battery life on the 3GS that bad compared to the 3G?!

mine's much better than that, I've been pumping tunes all day on the slopes, made two calls and surfed the 'net for a few hours, still got 15%

Post by **fooishbar** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:53 pm

a1studmuffin wrote:
menace wrote:how long are crew getting battery life out of a 32gs ? im struggling 2 get 5 hours a day .... i need more for work purposes ?
Are you for real? Is the battery life on the 3GS that bad compared to the 3G?!

i'll let you know on monday, heh

@MILCO@ · Post by **@MILCO@** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:30 am

imobster = win.

ADD_Boy · Post by **ADD_Boy** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:05 pm

best apps ever for me.. Appsniper and Appminer.

Both search the app store and tell you about any apps that are on sale or reduced.

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:16 pm

^ mad! I was wanting something like that.

yenks · Post by **yenks** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:31 am

Theres some good iphone 3gs plan comparisons on whirlpool on this thread.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=1229163

useful little comparison tool is found here:

http://www.numbersinaflash.com/iphone-p ... on-calcul/

Thinking the vodafone iPhone 3GS 16GB $69 plan is the way to go for me.

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:51 pm

^^ that's what I ordered through optus, and they sent me a 32GB anyway

for those with jailbroken phones.... Logged into Cydia last night for the first time in ages... 15 updates were waiting for me, I ran them all at once... now my phone looks like this..

what's with those little black pin-wheels in the bottom left of my apps? happens with winterboard on or off. hmmm