Teh Large Hadron Collider - Results?

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:24 pm

They are only turning on the beam tonight. atom smashing isn't for weeks.

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:07 pm

so are we dead yet?

what happened?

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:20 pm

beam gets turned on at 6.30pm. but nothing to worry about. Just relax. You've got at least 1 month left before we all die a horrible death

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:25 pm

well you maybe, I'm cooking tonight so my household could be gone be 8.00

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:32 pm

mwa ha ha ha ha

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:25 pm

I'm still alive... what a gyp!

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:19 pm

Hardy wrote:I'm still alive... what a gyp!

LHC fail, if its not going to end the world anything else it can do is going to be a let down

same o · Post by **same o** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:29 am

Stray wrote:They are only turning on the beam tonight. atom smashing isn't for weeks.

i thought it wasnt till 2009

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:50 am

He said a couple of months on the news last night.. but it was a tentative date.
They still need to do lots of testing and spending of investors money first.

Post by **breaksRbest** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:57 am

mrj wrote:well you maybe, I'm cooking tonight so my household could be gone be 8.00

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:02 pm

nic wrote: LHC fail, if its not going to end the world anything else it can do is going to be a let down

word.

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:28 pm

They only turned on the beam for the first time last night!!

The particle collisions (ie. re-creating the big bang) aren't for months.

Give it a chance to end the world.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:43 pm

whats the ETA 4 armageddon stray?

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:05 pm

There will be no Armageddon. No Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse. Nada.
Can't anythign involving the Frenchmen. Praise Allah for end of the world goodness.

spazz · Post by **spazz** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:43 pm

http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:49 pm

In their paper, Coleman and de Luccia noted:

The possibility that we are living in a false vacuum has never
been a cheering one to contemplate. Vacuum decay is the ultimate
ecological catastrophe; in the new vacuum there are new constants of
nature; after vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible,
so is chemistry as we know it. However, one could always draw stoic
comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the
new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some
structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been
eliminated.
The second special case ... applies if we are now living in the
debris of a false vacuum ... This case presents us with less
interesting physics and with fewer occasions for rhetorical excess
than the preceding one.

S. Coleman and F. De Luccia (1980). "Gravitational effects on and of vacuum decay". Physical Review D21: 3305.

the crab always wins; it makes the baby syntacticians cry.

and

http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2008/0 ... charge.php

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:29 pm

Stray wrote:You've got at least 1 month left before we all die a horrible death

yeah, but it wont be that horrible... you wont even notice or konw it's happened...

*blink*

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:33 pm

crikey

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5007823

Big Bang experiment makes girl suicide

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:21 pm

deviant wrote:
Stray wrote:You've got at least 1 month left before we all die a horrible death
yeah, but it wont be that horrible... you wont even notice or konw it's happened...

*blink*

Actually, one of the scientists said that if a black hole was created and grew, it could take 50 weeks to 50 years to destroy the earth.
It wouldn't be instantaneous... or would *blink*

EOM

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:23 pm

witty_pseudonym wrote:crikey

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5007823

Big Bang experiment makes girl suicide

She killed herself because she thought she was going to be killed?

Post by **system** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:02 pm

the hardon colander collider:

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:03 pm

arousing.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:10 pm

does it get you in teh anal place witty?

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:16 pm

yep...it's all moist.

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:56 pm

http://www.smh.com.au/news/science/scie ... 74237.html

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:58 pm

maybe they will end up creating heaps of bag.

that would be awesome.

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:03 pm

yes its a strainer for making purer bag imo.
untold levels of productivity

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:30 pm

Stray wrote:
deviant wrote:
Stray wrote:You've got at least 1 month left before we all die a horrible death
yeah, but it wont be that horrible... you wont even notice or konw it's happened...

*blink*
Actually, one of the scientists said that if a black hole was created and grew, it could take 50 weeks to 50 years to destroy the earth.
It wouldn't be instantaneous... or would *blink*

EOM

Apparently we would be spaghettified. Here is a nice picture:

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:56 pm

http://www.venganza.org/

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:37 pm

LHC Webcam... sorry if repost...

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:16 pm

apophenian wrote:LHC Webcam... sorry if repost...

wow.... that actually gave me a chill

apophenian · Post by **apophenian** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:29 pm

You nearly saw the spaghetti monster didn't you?

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:34 am

The LHC circulated its first particle beams on 10 September 2008, but a few days later had to suspend operations due to equipment failure, when a faulty connection between two magnets triggered a shutdown which will delay its operation for two months.[2] Owing to the already planned winter shutdown, the collider will not be operational again until the spring of 2009

so they spend two decades on this thing then just shut it down for winter.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:16 pm

mega luge ftw over winter then

would travel for

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm

hadron leads to teenage sex acts?

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story ... 39,00.html

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:11 am

FoundationStepper wrote:hadron leads to teenage sex acts?

Surely it's the other way around.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:14 pm

its back up and running again

saggynipple · Post by **saggynipple** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:23 pm

I soooo wanted this to have been caused by the LHC...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... orway.html

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:10 pm

lol

CERN webcam

almax · Post by **almax** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:49 am

we have liftoff, first collisions are being recorded, they are expecting up to 4 million collisions per second and hope to record up to 200,000 per second, mind boggling.

Here's CERN's press release:

LHC research programme gets underway

Geneva, 30 March 2010. Beams collided at 7 TeV in the LHC at 13:06 CEST, marking the start of the LHC research programme. Particle physicists around the world are looking forward to a potentially rich harvest of new physics as the LHC begins its first long run at an energy three and a half times higher than previously achieved at a particle accelerator.

“It’s a great day to be a particle physicist,” said CERN1 Director General Rolf Heuer. “A lot of people have waited a long time for this moment, but their patience and dedication is starting to pay dividends.”

“With these record-shattering collision energies, the LHC experiments are propelled into a vast region to explore, and the hunt begins for dark matter, new forces, new dimensions and the Higgs boson,” said ATLAS collaboration spokesperson, Fabiola Gianotti. “The fact that the experiments have published papers already on the basis of last year’s data bodes very well for this first physics run.”

“We’ve all been impressed with the way the LHC has performed so far,” said Guido Tonelli, spokesperson of the CMS experiment, “and it’s particularly gratifying to see how well our particle detectors are working while our physics teams worldwide are already analysing data. We’ll address soon some of the major puzzles of modern physics like the origin of mass, the grand unification of forces and the presence of abundant dark matter in the universe. I expect very exciting times in front of us.”

"This is the moment we have been waiting and preparing for", said ALICE spokesperson Jürgen Schukraft. "We're very much looking forward to the results from proton collisions, and later this year from lead-ion collisions, to give us new insights into the nature of the strong interaction and the evolution of matter in the early Universe."

“LHCb is ready for physics,” said the experiment’s spokesperson Andrei Golutvin, “we have a great research programme ahead of us exploring the nature of matter-antimatter asymmetry more profoundly than has ever been done before.”

CERN will run the LHC for 18-24 months with the objective of delivering enough data to the experiments to make significant advances across a wide range of physics channels. As soon as they have "re-discovered" the known Standard Model particles, a necessary precursor to looking for new physics, the LHC experiments will start the systematic search for the Higgs boson. With the amount of data expected, called one inverse femtobarn by physicists, the combined analysis of ATLAS and CMS will be able to explore a wide mass range, and there’s even a chance of discovery if the Higgs has a mass near 160 GeV. If it’s much lighter or very heavy, it will be harder to find in this first LHC run.

For supersymmetry, ATLAS and CMS will each have enough data to double today’s sensitivity to certain new discoveries. Experiments today are sensitive to some supersymmetric particles with masses up to 400 GeV. An inverse femtobarn at the LHC pushes the discovery range up to 800 GeV.

“The LHC has a real chance over the next two years of discovering supersymmetric particles,” explained Heuer, “and possibly giving insights into the composition of about a quarter of the Universe.”

Even at the more exotic end of the LHC’s potential discovery spectrum, this LHC run will extend the current reach by a factor of two. LHC experiments will be sensitive to new massive particles indicating the presence of extra dimensions up to masses of 2 TeV, where today’s reach is around 1 TeV.

“Over 2000 graduate students are eagerly awaiting data from the LHC experiments,” said Heuer. “They’re a privileged bunch, set to produce the first theses at the new high-energy frontier.”

Following this run, the LHC will shutdown for routine maintenance, and to complete the repairs and consolidation work needed to reach the LHC’s design energy of 14 TeV following the incident of 19 September 2008. Traditionally, CERN has operated its accelerators on an annual cycle, running for seven to eight months with a four to five month shutdown each year. Being a cryogenic machine operating at very low temperature, the LHC takes about a month to bring up to room temperature and another month to cool down. A four-month shutdown as part of an annual cycle no longer makes sense for such a machine, so CERN has decided to move to a longer cycle with longer periods of operation accompanied by longer shutdown periods when needed.

“Two years of continuous running is a tall order both for the LHC operators and the experiments, but it will be well worth the effort,” said Heuer. “By starting with a long run and concentrating preparations for 14 TeV collisions into a single shutdown, we’re increasing the overall running time over the next three years, making up for lost time and giving the experiments the chance to make their mark.”

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/Press.../PR07.10E.html

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:03 am

exciting

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:58 am

I find it immensely ironic that they are calling it the 'god particle'

I would like to see what happens next.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:07 am

Anti-climax? No big bang? Only more numbers and theories.

Come on! Deep down you wanted it to bang didn't you?

Sorry, life goes on as normal.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:39 am

I have to admit I was hoping for a bang. Not a global bang. Just a semi-localised one.

Or maybe some kind of mutant army/portal to another dimension/new type of cheese being created. That would have been interesting.

At the moment we have nothing. Nothing is not interesting.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:42 pm

only just saw this... GOLD.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029 ... 387,00.htm

""Countries do not exist where I am from. The discovery of the Higgs boson led to limitless power, the elimination of poverty and Kit-Kats for everyone. It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening."

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:52 pm

causing all the crazy planet stuff imo. too much build up of energy resulting in increased:
- earthquakes
- tsunamis
- volcanic erruptions
- etc
- tbh

nic · Post by **nic** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:56 pm

its like a film

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:14 pm

I've lately become swayed by the Wave Structure of Matter theory, which argues that the particles are actually spherical standing waves. What's interesting about WSM is that it resolves many conflicts between relativity and quantum theory. It also offers mechanical explanations for light, gravity, magnetism etc. Plus it does away with all the probability, parallel universes and a lot of the hocus pocus that quantum theory has inadvertently spawned.

Watch the posted video on YouTube.

Some links.
http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm (very mathematical and a little pompous but pretty much spot on)
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-A ... tivity.htm (simpler explanation, easier to follow but a bit too much philosophy and metaphysics for my liking)
http://www.quantummatter.com/ (Milo Wolff, the first to discover WSM back in the 80s)

As always, take with a grain of salt.

mrj · Post by **mrj** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:23 pm

awesome, if life is becoming like a film i can't wait for the weekend.

first thing im gonna do is i'm gonna quit my burger flipping job for an entry level mail room job in a stock broking firm and then accidently run into a hot bird in the corridor who is totally into me but turns out to be the bosses daughter and then get promoted at work because her dad gives her anything she wants only to find out I have super powers and am the most special person in the world but find that with that power comes great responsibility, and then become a cop and then nearly be retired and visit several strip clubs during a murder investigation before waking up one day to find I’m trapped inside a dogs body/I’m young again/I’ve become an alien/lesbian/thespian and falling in love with a girl before we are tragically separated by a natural disaster/fate/her love of race hate and I get put in jail for a crime I didn’t commit and I get released and then Richard gere realises I actually did do it and then he forgets about it and picks me up in his friends lotus whilst im working the street in la and he takes me to polo or lacrosse or something and then he plays the piano.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:31 pm

mrj wrote:awesome, if life is becoming like a film i can't wait for the weekend.

first thing im gonna do is i'm gonna quit my burger flipping job for an entry level mail room job in a stock broking firm and then accidently run into a hot bird in the corridor who is totally into me but turns out to be the bosses daughter and then get promoted at work because her dad gives her anything she wants only to find out I have super powers and am the most special person in the world but find that with that power comes great responsibility, and then become a cop and then nearly be retired and visit several strip clubs during a murder investigation before waking up one day to find I’m trapped inside a dogs body/I’m young again/I’ve become an alien/lesbian/thespian and falling in love with a girl before we are tragically separated by a natural disaster/fate/her love of race hate and I get put in jail for a crime I didn’t commit and I get released and then Richard gere realises I actually did do it and then he forgets about it and picks me up in his friends lotus whilst im working the street in la and he takes me to polo or lacrosse or something and then he plays me like a piano.

fixed.