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someone told me the new JT album has a dubstep-like beat on it.

So where is dubstep at now, a few years into it?

Interesting doco here - (pretty basic intro to it really)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaCSMJfGUA


Who are the people coming through now? Is there a whole generation of dubstep producers making their own mark?

DBoy wrote:So where is dubstep at now, a few years into it?

My Mum told me, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all", so...

No comment.

yeah ok thanks for that Mark....


anyway new burial album is comming out soon, I've heard a preview of it and it's pretty amamzing. It's a firth beutiful minimal tech/2-step/ambient/dubstep hybrid. Pretty much unclasifiably which is usually a good sign. Re-hashing alot of the same sound pallet, or very similar, but its good enough to get away with. It's more uplifting than the first, but at the same time the production aesthetics are alot darker I think, it's messier and less accesable in many ways. Sounds like not much else i've heard before.

As far as more DJ oriented stuff, Bristo/pinchl camps are really pushing it for me at the moment. Headhunter, appleblim, pinch, Peverelist, and 2536 or whatever his name is. Pinch got a new album comming out 'Underwater Dancehall', have heard a handful of bits bit not all of it. Geiom album out, asian flavours pretty fucken nice.

Also expect big things for aussie dubstep - two labels starting up. One from the garage pressure and moving ninja camp, will be an international label but will do great things for Aus dubstep aswell. The first release is a very big track. I'm also starting up a label with another 2 peeps from sydney, stricktly 'oceania' dubstep. Debut complotation with bout 14 artists, very very diverse range of talent, few big names and a few you might not have heard of yet. The scope and quality of the tracks is fantastic. May I jus say in advance that I greatly appreciate all your support in buying the first release and comming to the laiunch party and getting messy !

Dubstep has kidna split in two really at the moment, there is a little bit of a core sound that has developed, and people are replicating it to an extent. This happens with every genre so no biggie I guess. The main thing is, for me anyway, there are still shitloads of producers pushing in all different directions. Lines are blured between techno, 2step, tribalish stuff, IDM, dancehall. That majority of shit is still unsigned though, but It's not a huge issue because you can still hear it in mixes, radio, everyone is pretty keen to send out 320's, still nice freindly comunity vibe.

Also there is an article comming up in cyclic defrost magazine on Australian dubstep and the roll of underground 320 trading for the develoment of the scene etc.




and now for the weather, Tom...

Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.

black star wrote:Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.

did i miss the 5 o'clock free crack give away?

Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

almax wrote:

black star wrote:Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.

did i miss the 5 o'clock free crack give away?

Considering its not quite 2pm - you way out. sure your not smoking the 1pm give away.

i just shat in my pants

The newest 2 releases by 2562 on tectonic have a 'housey' type feel jbs, more legible less drunken ketamine binge off kilter beats.

i like alot, more of.


Channel Two/Circulate

almax wrote:i just shat in my pants

quoted for posterior - I menean posterity

jbs wrote:Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

TRG, Pangea, our own D.L.I, and alot of the bristol stuff I'm talking about, working with a more direct beat.

deviant wrote:BUT, it has a HUGELY distinctive sound. I couldn't figure out how something that is SOOO similar to so many other things could sound so unique. I figured that it was tapping into a tempo area that no other genre can sit at comfortably.

Dubstep sits around 150bpm which is a pretty odd tempo and untouchable by other genres without sounding awkward. the half-time feel is also slower than most hip-hop. At around 75 it's pretty damn slow.

I thought this was interesting, I'm interested to hear what you guys think.

Hey Dan I've had some success mixing dubstep with ghettotech and kuduro tunes. You gotta pick carefully, a lot just don't work with dubstep but the tempos are about the same and it can work really well.

Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

DBoy wrote: The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

sounds like 1992 all over again

DBoy wrote:Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

I would pay to hear as well.

nic wrote:

DBoy wrote:Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

I would pay to hear as well.

listen to appleblim, pinch and headhunter sets pon rinse fm et al. They are playing exactly just what you are describeing I recon.

headhunter has got techno written all over it. some of bengas bits of his album would stretch that far too

http://files.robotfreq.com/headhunter@F ... 160607.mp3

Headhunter Live @ Freakcamp.
from earlier this year, recomended

flippo wrote:http://files.robotfreq.com/headhunter@F ... 160607.mp3

Headhunter Live @ Freakcamp.
from earlier this year, recomended

linky no good

deng

I'll get back to yooz

jbs wrote:Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

there is heaps of like rave electro sortta dubstep, that i am lovin by dudes like rusko.. and then there is like minimal techno shit by like 2562

have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

jbs wrote:

sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

yeah, that's ravestep. night and day different from the bristol sound, believe. check out any pinch or appleblim mixes.

Check out Jimmy edgar, its detroit step

tracks LBLBdetroit and colorstrip warren for the win

www.myspace.com/colorstrip

jbs wrote:

sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

there doing the next fabric live.. which will be interesting...
i dont mind the shit personally...
but i atm i am lovin anti social stuff, dudes like quest silkie and henny g..
it almost makes u cry it got so much emotion behinde it

yeah, hopefully people realise there's loads of different styles: pure tearout, sub medi (hello loefah), some deeper tip, drumstep, dubby, metalstep (distance), etc, etc.

LOL @ Dubstep having sub genres already

On another note. that headhunter EP has gotta be the best 1 ive heard in a while

yeah i know, i hadnt heard all dem different sub genre names...

I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

you say pigeon, i say hole.

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

as do i, is techno dubstep called techstep.. lolz

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

I think I know what he's talking through.

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

why would you have 'official' subgenre names anyway. it's just a vague 'oh yeah this sounds like a load of other similar tunes'.

jbs, Dboy et al., wrap your bum around this unit >

dq wrote:The Dub War Podcast series continues to explore the hidden reaches of the sound with a new mix by Punch Drunk boss Peverelist.


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Go to iTunes music store and search Dub War NYC to subscribe. It's free, and you can have the latest installment automatically downloaded each time. The podcast is meant to be different from recorded radio mixes, with artists exploring different aspects of the sound and creating something that people will hopefully want to return to for repeated listens.

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Tracklisting:
Smith & Mighty 'B Line Fi Blow'
RSD 'Pretty Bright Light'
Gatekeeper 'Tense Past'
2562 'Kameleon'
Peverelist 'Infinity is Now'
Pinch 'untitled'
Peverelist & Appleblim 'Circling'
Pinch 'Whirl'
Pinch 'One Blood, One Source' feat Rudee Lee
Peverelist 'Roll with the Punches'
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Forsaken 'Boat Noodles'

Also for those using RSS readers you can subscribe here:
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any options to get it with out itunes?

yep, http://www.dqxt.org/dubwar/podcast/dubw ... relist.mp3

looks the goods, especially if pretty bright light is what i think it is. (also, basically all these guys are bristol, so if you liked pinch, then you'll like this.)

EVERYBODY LOVE TEH WOBBLE!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D-NXeqFZHbY


dont shoot the messenger!

Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

on bass weight apparently

also taht dubwar podcast is excellent

you mean pon bass weight

Lós Kasino— wrote:EVERYBODY LOVE TEH WOBBLE!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D-NXeqFZHbY


dont shoot the messenger!

LOL biggup britnaay.. Your time

jbs wrote:Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

you can generally jerk your body about in any way that takes your fancy.

No doubt soon someone will do some melbourne shuffling to it too, but we already have snipers ready for that.

haha, there is a dubstep tune called the melbourne shuffle grookz

ha i was gonna say that dub war reminded me of more rockers...

and the first track is by smith and mighty- go figure - i thought it was a vocal they used...

jbs wrote:Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1kCDxfBl8w

lolz

flippo wrote:haha, there is a dubstep tune called the melbourne shuffle grookz

I presume the author has been, shall we say, taken care of?

There's some dubstep I really like.

I saw Benga in Adelaide and that was off the hook.

But maybe it's the (Adelaide) locals can't get hold of good stuff, but I find a lot of what they play to be slow and boring and I can't get into it.

I really want to support those guys though and that's not intended as a diss, because they're good blokes and it's hard to get a scene established in Adelaide.

you should have been at caspa @ bass high @ laundry recently.

off the hook.