The Mac vs PC Thread #483468

Post by **lynt** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:39 am

Alas, my student days were over long ago. Livin' tha full bottle lifestyle '05

ukime · Post by **ukime** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:56 am

So you pay a younger cousin or sibling $5 to come with you to a Mac shop to show them their student card =p Actually, I think all the warranty details get put under it =/ not too sure though.

Post by **lynt** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:20 pm

I'm gonna check out the Apple store today and have a word... looks like Mac for me.

Post by **lynt** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:21 pm

Oh and system, can you fill me in on the linux environment MacOX runs on ... ie: what can she do? Should I bookmark freshmeat.net for example?

Post by **system** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:49 pm

lynt wrote:Oh and system, can you fill me in on the linux environment MacOX runs on ... ie: what can she do? Should I bookmark freshmeat.net for example?

linux? bite your tongue. Mac OS X is based on BSD. that is, real UNIX.

you can run it as a X-Windows, SAMBA, HTTP, FTP, SSH, etc, etc server as needed. basically, anything you can do on a *NIX box can pretty much be done. all the interface with the *NIX layer is generally done via the Terminal application.

check the developer sites on Apple if you want (for more info on the kernel, etc).

otherwise all you'd need to do if you want *NIX wise apps, etc would be install Fink (which can grab any ported/native packages for the Mach kernel) and maybe a few other bits and bobs.

HTH

Post by **system** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:52 pm

lynt wrote:I guess Mac resellers would be cheaper then Mac shops?

not really and they're the same thing (resellers/AppleCentres).

currently (soon to change though) the only Mac shops in Australia live at www.apple.com.au/store ..

Apple don't give the resellers much margin anyway.

Post by **lynt** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:49 pm

You're a star. Thanks mate.

same o · Post by **same o** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:22 pm

lynt wrote:Alas, my student days were over long ago. Livin' tha full bottle lifestyle '05

ahhh that aint a problem when my dad bought our comp he used my student id.. fuck if u want i could drop into dmc and give u myne and u can just say that u r buying it for a freind or sum shit

jules · Post by **jules** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:49 pm

you'll get more bang for your buck with a pc. for live use you'd be better of dead than dragging a windows pc on stage. Apple for stability, pc for cheap.

http://www2.compnow.com.au/ - has good refurbished mac's[/url]

Post by **lynt** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:26 am

Should be picking up my new Mac this friday..

Dual G5 2Ghz, 2Gb ram, all other bits in pieces, OSX, Logic Pro 7, 20" cinema display...

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:41 am

lynt wrote:Should be picking up my new Mac this friday..

Dual G5 2Ghz, 2Gb ram, all other bits in pieces, OSX, Logic Pro 7, 20" cinema display...

So... what was your address again? And you work 11-6, yeah? And the spare keys where?

Post by **lynt** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:57 am

Will wrote:
lynt wrote:Should be picking up my new Mac this friday..

Dual G5 2Ghz, 2Gb ram, all other bits in pieces, OSX, Logic Pro 7, 20" cinema display...
So... what was your address again? And you work 11-6, yeah? And the spare keys where?

I know what you look like.

DIDI · Post by **DIDI** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:14 am

I am soooo jealous.Enjoy!!!!!

Post by **system** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:33 am

lynt wrote:Should be picking up my new Mac this friday..

Dual G5 2Ghz, 2Gb ram, all other bits in pieces, OSX, Logic Pro 7, 20" cinema display...

good move mate. you won't regret it.

Stamina MC · Post by **Stamina MC** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:21 pm

fents wrote:^^ Just get a MAC, u know u want it, and until u've tried it u'll never know....

And then u can PAY Mega $$$$ for all ur software

Regularly purported mistruth. In five years of owning a Mac I've only bought ONE piece of software. Logic 6. And I'm wanting for nothing else, trust me...

Keir · Post by **Keir** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:36 pm

^ yeh dito... very common misconception.

Post by **system** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:13 am

Stamina MC wrote:
fents wrote:^^ Just get a MAC, u know u want it, and until u've tried it u'll never know....

And then u can PAY Mega $$$$ for all ur software
Regularly purported mistruth. In five years of owning a Mac I've only bought ONE piece of software. Logic 6. And I'm wanting for nothing else, trust me...

same. (and Logic 7 is the first music related purchase) and that's after 20 years of running Macs.

back into yer box F1!

DIDI · Post by **DIDI** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:30 am

The site every mac owner should have in their bookmarks

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/index.html

It even works for a dummy like me!

patch · Post by **patch** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:15 am

Stamina MC wrote:
fents wrote:^^ Just get a MAC, u know u want it, and until u've tried it u'll never know....

And then u can PAY Mega $$$$ for all ur software
Regularly purported mistruth. In five years of owning a Mac I've only bought ONE piece of software. Logic 6. And I'm wanting for nothing else, trust me...

this is so true.

ive got a mac now and i havent paid for one thing yet, and ive got logic 7(express mind you)

Post by **system** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:24 pm

patch wrote:ive got a mac now and i havent paid for one thing yet, and ive got logic 7(express mind you)

patch · Post by **patch** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:27 pm

no laughing allowed

safire · Post by **safire** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:17 pm

im bought a g5 from david jones over a year ago (be sure to go there and check it out 18months intrest free!) and they have to match any price u get anywhere else...

plus if u've got easier access to pc programs you can get virtual pc for mac which means u can be runnin windowns on the mac if u want and still use all ur cracked plugins etc...

wobbulator · Post by **wobbulator** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:40 am

1040STE running Notator with Unitor2 - no problems.

i cant believe you macintosh homosexuals now have the rights to logic.

Scotrod · Post by **Scotrod** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:55 pm

Nice one Lynt!!!

:):)
I pick up my G5 with Logic 7 in two weeks. I felt your pain as I read this thread. Like I said to the bloke at the apple store - " I proposed to my girlfriend two months ago and that wasn't nearly as hard a decision as choosing between Mac or PC."

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:04 pm

i got an athlon64 yesty.

will get back to yaz once i can get xp to install.

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:22 pm

i was thinkin 64 ... hmmm let me know how you go AO.

mac still on its way.

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:04 am

i think it should be good once i figure out what is making it reboot at the welcome screen.

quick · Post by **quick** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:04 am

Spewin, hope u fix it soon bro.

Post by **system** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:05 pm

lynt wrote:mac still on its way.

fuck man, that's rough.

who'd you order the box through? online or a store?

safire wrote:plus if u've got easier access to pc programs you can get virtual pc for mac which means u can be runnin windowns on the mac if u want and still use all ur cracked plugins etc...

no good for audio mate. emulators aren't designed for that shizzle and run at 70-80% speed at best.

wobbulator wrote: cant believe you macintosh homosexuals now have the rights to logic.

well - emagic developed it for the Mac OS platform first, so stick that in yer Steinberg.

shit was inevitable.

Post by **lynt** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:25 pm

system wrote:
lynt wrote:mac still on its way.
fuck man, that's rough.

who'd you order the box through? online or a store?

lets just say some corporations will burn in hell for all eternity, getting frustrating. might end up with good ol PC at this rate! meh

Post by **system** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:19 am

lynt wrote:getting frustrating.

I can imagine man! stick in there.

lynt wrote:might end up with good ol PC at this rate! meh

don't do it!

wobbulator · Post by **wobbulator** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:35 am

well - emagic developed it for the Mac OS platform first, so stick that in yer Steinberg.

shit was inevitable.

[/quote]

who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.

Post by **system** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:50 pm

wobbulator wrote:who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.

right. how ironic. have fun.

Rob M · Post by **Rob M** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:57 am

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote:i got an athlon64 yesty. will get back to yaz once i can get xp to install.

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote: i think it should be good once i figure out what is making it reboot at the welcome screen.

i'm sure your smart enough to know you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame away

so where did ya get your cracked copy from AO?

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:10 pm

Rob M wrote:
Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote:i got an athlon64 yesty. will get back to yaz once i can get xp to install.
Ag3nT[]0raNg3 wrote: i think it should be good once i figure out what is making it reboot at the welcome screen.
i'm sure your smart enough to know you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame away

so where did ya get your cracked copy from AO?

dunno where you heard that from man!

XP works fine on the 64's. twas my dodgy generic RAM that was fucking with it. whacked some Corsair modules in it and its fucken sweeet.

XP 64bit is all over the net in beta at the moment anyway. not gunna do that just yet.

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:20 pm

got cheap hardware online retailer link?

Realm Korrupt · Post by **Realm Korrupt** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:15 pm

you going pc now lynty??

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:31 pm

cant fucking decide.

do i:

go mac, logic, start from scratch including all tunes for costly

or

continue pc, cubase, enjoy massive upgrade and complete tunes for cheap

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:32 pm

infact i've been bouncing around the internet doing price comparisons and performance benchmarks etc... meh meh

Post by **lynt** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:34 pm

Music and Audio Maestro
With the Power Mac G5, music and audio pros have even more power at their fingertips to compose, record, edit, mix and perform. PowerPC G5 processors effortlessly synthesize instruments and apply effects, and up to 8GB of memory provides ample room to compose using an unprecedented number of tracks. The built-in optical digital and analog audio ports support new and legacy hardware, and FireWire and USB support connections to virtually any audio, MIDI and storage device. Fast PCI-X provides expansion options for digital signal processing hardware and external storage. Mac OS X with Core Audio can run several applications simultaneously, while Audio Units provide a robust plug-in protocol designed to work seamlessly across Audio Units host applications. And with state-of-the-art applications like Appleâ€™s Logic Pro and Soundtrack, Digidesign Pro Tools, MOTU Digital Performer and Steinberg Cubase SX and Nuendo, you have a wealth of innovative software to capture your inspiration.

Over Four Times The Plug-ins As Pentium 4
To quantify the performance advantages of the Power Mac G5 for audio production, Apple tested Logic Pro 6.4.1. The Dell Dimension XPS, Dell Precision 650 and Alienware Aurora were tested using Steinberg Cubase SX 2.0.1. Apple created a processor-intensive workload containing multiple unique audio tracks, assigned five default reverb plug-ins to each audio track and tested each platform to see which application could play more plug-ins.

Post by **system** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:41 pm

Rob M wrote:you need 64-bit windows to make it run. haven't heard of a 32-bit version working on a 64-bit platform. I could be wrong, I dunno about backwards compatabilty and the new format though. so flame away

it'll have to be backwards compatible for at least 2-3 years, if not longer.

case in point: I have the box that I'm typing this out on running Mac OS X (10.3), which is a 32-bit OS running on a G5 (64-bit CPU); next to me I also have a G4 (32-bit CPU) running a beta of Mac OS X (10.4), which is a 64-bit OS.

wobbulator · Post by **wobbulator** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:48 pm

system wrote:
wobbulator wrote:who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.
right. how ironic. have fun.

Answer: not having fun, it is annoying clearing up mistakes retards like you make.

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:55 pm

larf!

Post by **system** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:11 pm

wobbulator wrote:
system wrote:
wobbulator wrote:who said anything about steinberg? go quote elsewhere.
right. how ironic. have fun.
Answer: not having fun, it is annoying clearing up mistakes retards like you make.

Lephrenic · Post by **Lephrenic** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:32 am

Can you actually get it without the superdrive?

DIDI · Post by **DIDI** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:18 pm

andycole23_steve wrote:
Special Hegg wrote:Can you actually get it without the superdrive?
yerp. i was wanting to replace it with a faster drive thats cheaper......just unsure about compatabilities

Couldn't access your link but yes you can replace the DVD drive and it's dead easy !! For full instructions and reports etc. go to www.xlr8yourmac.com

[I put a pioneer in my very ancient G3 in 20mins. !!]

Post by **lynt** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:10 pm

speakin to a mac user, he said the ram is all cross platform, the harddrives all run on SATA (so any SATA drive will work) and most other parts you can add yourself from any pc supplier.

anyone verify this?

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:35 pm

lynt wrote:speakin to a mac user, he said the ram is all cross platform, the harddrives all run on SATA (so any SATA drive will work) and most other parts you can add yourself from any pc supplier.

anyone verify this?

yep. thats the case alright.

Dark Lord Piddle Bottom · Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:08 am

yes BUT you should get the top of the line ram from MAC since thatâ€™s what the systems are designed for. That is if you want your Mac to perform. Video cards need to be supported under OSX so you don't have the range as with PC. Not sure about hard drives.

Post by **system** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:53 pm

lynt wrote:speakin to a mac user, he said the ram is all cross platform, the harddrives all run on SATA (so any SATA drive will work) and most other parts you can add yourself from any pc supplier.

anyone verify this?

absolutely correct. it ain't 1996 any more (that fucking Christ).

make sure you buy a decent brand though, like Kingston, etc.

Dark Lord Piddle Bottom wrote:yes BUT you should get the top of the line ram from MAC since thatâ€™s what the systems are designed for. That is if you want your Mac to perform. Video cards need to be supported under OSX so you don't have the range as with PC. Not sure about hard drives.

Apple buy RAM from the same manufacturers as all the others, same as hard disk drives. no point paying a premium if you know your parts and how to install them.

video cards are indeed a very different story, even under Mac OS X, and should be approached with knowledge and significant caution.

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